I only have to send the readers to the WeAreCASAA Facebook group to show your history.
Well then do it, don't just sit there, do it. Show all these things I said that you feel so wronged by. What is you complaint? You did the moaning attack, now you can not even pony up an excuse? This is what I asked you to back up. Conoly has not complained, or responded, but you assert I attacked him. Don't chickenshit your way out of it, back it up. Is this all it takes for you to buckle cave and run? I just need to ask you to back it up, and you flee? Stand up for what your claims are. Or fold, but tell the table you are mucking your bluff.
I don't think we need to justify our work, but here is a short list of what we have done in a short 6 months.
Are you not reading? Did you read my item 6 above.
http://vapingunderground.com/thread...ider-changing-its-name.5245/page-2#post-48050 You don't need to show me what you have done, you don't need my approval, I am not questioning your accomplishments. Its a good thing to publish them, for everyone, and I will certainly be interested in reading about them as well. Credit where credit is due. But read what I wrote, before just ducking, obfuscating, and ignoring what I said to you in item 6.
As far as our role in the community. CASAA has stepped back from alerts on the local level and asked us to take that area. They no longer issue CallToActions for alerts at that level. As far as the name being folly, I totally disagree.
Well that is indeed news to me. Did CASAA publish that? I have essentially seen no difference in the actions and duties of the VM and CASAA, the differences were slight, or actually VM just seemed to be an appendage of CASAA, being tasked by them. I watched what you guys said on Busardo, and I did not hear this change.
But if you have split off the local side, and CASAA will work the State side, it could well be an enhancement that will have benefits. I wish that effort well, and do think dropped the communicating that out part....but heck maybe I just did not see it. I think all the action and problems are on the local side, with the biggest dangers being zoning of stores, and bans in private businesses like Bars and Restaruants.
Its kinda frustrating because you got all bitchy and complaining about feedback on your name, because it comes from me, but when Busardo says same, its no issue. And so it goes. BTW, its still not a fucking Phoneix, its German Bird still used on some of the official flags of Germany. Though they also know the history, and are kinda trying to only use the tri-color. Wiki Wiki
As far as FDA's intent on regulating hardware I only have the proposed regs and interviews with FDA leaders and reps to go by. Their intent is quite cloudy, but there is quite a few times where Zeller and others have stated that it is possible.
Well here is why I was trying to contact Greg, because it states in black and white, they can not regulate APV hardware, and they won't be. For me to even point something like this out to British American Tobacco's Carl Philips causes him to have a cow, complain, and stop threads. Did you think I attacked Carl when I pointed out the FDA has defined the metrics that will be used to calculate the Public Health Benefit of E-Cigs, and that dual usage unlike what Glantz thinks, falls within the criteria of public good. Or is that something you think I should be allowed to say, without being banned?
I am not the fastest, but I keep going, used to kinda suck, but with so many folks that can not think beyond 140 characters, it has uses. Still with me, or you quit.
As far as wearing a tshirt to testify in front of a city council. Most city councils ask that you dress appropriately. We ask people to dress in a manner that will allow them to be taken seriously. Wearing a tshirt even one of our awesome ones would distract from the message.
Again, its why I asked you about what you said. You say that you do not identify yourself, ever, and do not go to councils to be known, kinda a free-masons form of Advocacy, secret handshake to acknowledge you are in the room. Confusing.
This is what you said, that I asked to explain. You did not really do that, and the little you did explaining it, not really addressed the questions. Those essentially were the first 5 items ignored. I did put numbers on them, if you do want to address them, but make no mistake you don't need to do anything for me, beyond what you choose. Except for backing up your complaints about me.
The Vaping Militia's task is not to stand in front of City Councils and testify. Our task is to alert vapers where the threats are, to prepare them with documentation and education so that they can stand and defend themselves. We have never and will never announce ourselves as members of the Vaping Militia in that way. When we do have to testify we do so as private citizens. The people we have helped with their defense will tell you that we never ask them to state that they are members of the Militia.
Lastly and I am not sure if you heard this or not, a lot of people think you name is sub-par, and you are saying you need to hide it, not let anyone know, don't even announce you are in the room.......have you thought changing your name to avoid all that.
Or are you thinking the Retro-Chic Beavis and Butthead T-Shirt look is the way to go still?