Could a Samsung 25r Handel a .15 build if I take 3 second his on my neck mod
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Thinking I will personally stick with 0.25 builds and when feeling insane maybe a little lower. I have seen at a few vape contests people running 8 coils, quad double barrels, grave diggers etc. The shop requires you have a single mech 18650 mod but they provide a vtc4 and liquid. unsure what the setups ohm out to but some are massive as are the clouds. People say ask them and they open up about ohms of builds, why they chose the build style....hell no they dont. Guess they dont want competition.
I have a vtc4 on route now and ordering another asap. Been hearing a lot about the HB6 lately and curious about it.Its cool to see a comp providing the best battery possible for these wild coil builds...They dont want to see people getting hurt which is a good thing...As ive recommended to you many times, the vtc4 is the king of low ohm batteries and holding its position.
I dont agree with becuase a battery says its 100amps of pulse that its safe to use it in that manner..a pulse to me is a surge of protection and not an invitiation to risk your face or someone else around you..Because someone hasnt gotten hurt "YET" , doesnt mean its the smartest thing to do.
e This is a standing offer lol, BEFORE I send my M80 in for repair or replacement. I will swap it even for a good 100+w or custom box mod that will handle 100+w builds or a a HeatVape VMesh after its fixed/replaced.I've seen people run those at .08. I wouldn't do it but yeah. When I build that low its on a parallel mech box.
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Heard anything about these 40A acts or AMT or wtf their name is lol?I've been using MXJO batteries lately and I've been very pleased.
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Let me set it straight for you..There is no true 40 amp continuos 18650 battery cell...its a burst..one even smaller than samsung 25r..Any questions?Heard anything about these 40A acts or AMT or wtf their name is lol?
I have actually played russian roulette with a 5 shot 44 and 3 shell.skipping chambers but I see ya. point. I am sticking with the .25 build for. I am definitly drooling over the HeatVape VMesh. I mean, its a 75A regulated mechanical box that minimally pushes 150w and is less than $50. I will save my rightous bucks and grab a badass comp level rda and throw on it and go bananas IF it goes that low.Honestly if you are setting out to vape a .tardohm build there really is no battery on the ma. rket that can safely handle it.
As @Mike H. has said consider it a surge protection.
I mean if you are at all gung ho for risky potential life threatening behavior I can think of a few that will be slightly safer.
Fucking a junky whore with track marks on all limbs without a rubber.
Fucking a rabid ebola infected monkey.
Playing in traffic during rush hour while blind folded.
Playing chicken with a locomotive..
Playing Russian roulette with 5 rounds instead of one.
Going into the hood/ghetto and scream you hate whatever ethnic population is there.
See high risk stupid shit that will pay off dividends quicker.
But those pulse tests are in a controlled setting.A pulse spec is very specific. There is no usual value, it's whatever the manufacturer states. Those values are finite and set in stone. Any cell that has an amperage stated in specs or in the wrapper without a very specific time stated is mislabeled.
Building to any pulse discharge takes away any safety margin in case of disaster. Things happen when we least expect it and sometimes when we do everything right.
Samsung have tested the 25r at 95A for precisely 0.5 seconds, 80A for the same, 45A for 5 seconds and 30A for 6 seconds. There were.also specific rest periods between test cycles. The HE2 for example has no pulse spec at all. If the manufacturer doesn't state it and approve it it doesn't exist. Can it be done? Yes, but safety goes right out the window. You may hear people say they're only "pulsing" the cell but to say that's OK for x amount of seconds on any cell sounds like they're trying to kid themselves they're being safer than they actually are .
We can not guess time frames for Amperage not specified by making a guess based on the figures that are on the list . If it's not on the list, it's not in the spec.
Dont listen to anyone that says things like " a pulse is usually 1-3 seconds". They're pulling figures out of thin air.
That said, if I wanted to experiment with low builds I'd use either a 20r or a 25r. Keep an eye on temperature of the mod atty and cell and have available plan if things go wrong.
We're all adults and capable of making our own decisions, but if we're going to push a cell past its rating to one not explicitly on the spec sheet we have to accept that we do so entirely at our own risk. Fabricating figures won't make us safe, we need to use our expertise and experience to ensure we are as safe as can be.
I will stick wit my single vtc4 and 0.24 builds for now. thinking I will perfect builds on it then step up to competition level cloud killer box mod and go as low. Know a guy building triple series boxes but he is fucking high as hell on them. Think even with my "buddy" discount it would still be $125. I know he only has $50 tied up in each.I would venture to say the samsung 25r must be the safest 18650 battery cell around with a 100amp burst..despite it being 20 amp continuous,which is the important number here.
.Anyone seen a higher amp burst for an 18650 despite continuos rating?
Jesus, ive use 2 cell lipo batteries in rc cars with 4000 mah that didnt have a 100 amp burst rating...WTF
Correct me if I am wrong and their is a 50/50 I am, but doesnt parallel increase the mah not amperage? Doesnt series increase the amps? I do know that every battery over one you add you can basically add half of its amperage to the total but cant remember if its series or parallel.I've seen people run those at .08. I wouldn't do it but yeah. When I build that low its on a parallel mech box.
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Series hits the coils with more voltage, and parallel hits the voltage of a single battery while giving you more amps to work withCorrect me if I am wrong and their is a 50/50 I am, but doesnt parallel increase the mah not amperage? Doesnt series increase the amps? I do know that every battery over one you add you can basically add half of its amperage to the total but cant remember if its series or parallel.
Parallel over series IMO. I'm using the new Infected Box mod by USAmademods. I'll have a review out soon.So theoritically speaking a mod running 2 parallel sleds in series would be king?
Im talking about each sleds 2 batteries wired parallel then the sleds wired in series. In my mind thats the best of both worlds but could be way off.
That's pretty much what I already said. Regardless of what conditions it's still been tested. People are going to do risky things with cells, like it or not. Getting all theatrical and melodramatic just makes people switch off. We need to educate them not list nonsensical scenarios about playing in traffic.But those pulse tests are in a controlled setting.
There is no magical unicorn fart powered regulation on the battery you have a cell with positive and neg. Barring any outside or mishandling, or phase of the moon they will work within their limits approved of on the constant. So that magical step down becomes a whole lot less magical and heading quickly towards OH FUCK!
Sigelei 100W and 150W are excellent.The sigelei is probably the best 150w mod out quality wise for its type and its a "series" battery connection..in any case the batteries share the load.
Putting 2
You cant have both as far i know at this point..its either series or parallel.
The sigelei 150w is set up for series by the way...A beast of a box for $70.00
Was just pointing something out. Not in any way shooting you down but bolstering it.That's pretty much what I already said. Regardless of what conditions it's still been tested. People are going to do risky things with cells, like it or not. Getting all theatrical and melodramatic just makes people switch off. We need to educate them not list nonsensical scenarios about playing in traffic.
Me talking about pulse specs was directly addressing the belief that all cells have been pulse tested and that a pulse duration is considered 1-3 seconds, which it is not.
Just my opinion, please don't shoot me down for it. I'm responsible for what I say, not for what someone else understands.
It looks like a Sony. I would find out for sure if I were you.Just wondering if this cheapo battery is any good lol
Things like battery safety are touchy subjects. People have blind loyalty to brands and it makes no sense.Was just pointing something out. Not in any way shooting you down but bolstering it.
I love the dip shit in the headlights look they give you when you ask what their ohm reading is, or ask what the amp rating of the battery is. Every time I get that look the reply normally is "well such and such fucktarded dip shit at such and such should be run the fuck out of business shop built it for him and have no idea.." and they wonder why it is getting hot. When it is explained to them they shrug and keep at it pushing that Darwin envelope.