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JERUS

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Sucks, but I think you made the right decision...fiddling with an autofiring mod while getting on the freeway... not the best time to start screwing anything off. However, I wonder if it did kablooey later and someone got to see some fireworks? :p
 

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I just recently threw my nc out of my car because the button got stuck. Not positive the batteries were venting but i wasnt gonna take the chance since the thing would not stop smoking (yes, smoking) and i was getting on the freeway. But i was running a .4 setup and that was an angry vape, cant imagine a .2

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are you associating a stuck button with the .4 build?
i dont use the cricket anymore, i actually lost it somewhere on the road, i think i left it on top of my car or something.

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shout out to @Iliketurtles for that magic number. just testing it out right now on 28/36. im about half way through a stretch and it looks great :cheers: any progress on a jig that can wrap 3 cores?

oh and a trick for anyone wrapping multicore wire via my vape shop dude. you set your cores up and get them straight, then slip a paperclip over them and tape the ends shut so it doesnt fly off when you get your drill going. so far this is working better than anything else i have tried. i think the fact that it has two pinch points with some space in between them really helps.
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I still have mine....button is hard to get on and off because its the V1 button thats beat the hell up....Ive had alot of Tubes get stuck on with absolutely crazy builds...but I use Samsung 25R's and Ive yet to have one actually vent...even with a hardshort that lasted over 8 seconds...it was crazy hot, had the signs of the casing having shorted all over it (signs of thermal runaway) but it didnt vent and it still took a charge....IMO the 25R is the best battery all around and is one of the safest batteries you can buy.
 

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shout out to @Iliketurtles for that magic number. just testing it out right now on 28/36. im about half way through a stretch and it looks great :cheers: any progress on a jig that can wrap 3 cores?

oh and a trick for anyone wrapping multicore wire via my vape shop dude. you set your cores up and get them straight, then slip a paperclip over them and tape the ends shut so it doesnt fly off when you get your drill going. so far this is working better than anything else i have tried. i think the fact that it has two pinch points with some space in between them really helps.
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I like the Ribbon Method the Best...I never have any tape...kids always take it.
 

mach1ne

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lol damn kids. you could prolly tie the ends shut with ribbon wire if you wanted to try this method without tape :p i was using the ribbon method up till now, and so far this is a bit easier, and holding things a bit better. between this and the magic number, these have been my easiest set of aliens yet by a little bit. nothing is making it 'easy', but ~10% less struggle is much appreciated.
 

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are you associating a stuck button with the .4 build?
i dont use the cricket anymore, i actually lost it somewhere on the road, i think i left it on top of my car or something.

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Nah, build wasnt the issue, i had a shitty button

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mach1ne

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well today was a pretty good build day. knocked off a set of aliens followed by a set of framed multicore aliens. i seem to always get a couple bad wraps doing aliens no matter what, but my spacing is improving, and the speed that i can rattle off a set is also getting faster.

these are 28/36 aliens, but the middle core is 7x 40 gauge lightly twisted. pair comes to .22 ohms
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edit - been vaping on these for about an hour now and they are quite an improvement over regular aliens for flavor, and not really any harder to make. highly recommended if you have some 40g around and youre making aliens.
 
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Iliketurtles

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shout out to @Iliketurtles for that magic number. just testing it out right now on 28/36. im about half way through a stretch and it looks great :cheers: any progress on a jig that can wrap 3 cores?

oh and a trick for anyone wrapping multicore wire via my vape shop dude. you set your cores up and get them straight, then slip a paperclip over them and tape the ends shut so it doesnt fly off when you get your drill going. so far this is working better than anything else i have tried. i think the fact that it has two pinch points with some space in between them really helps.
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I am mostly out of wire now but my order has shipped so may here in the morning with luck, woo!
 

Mythical_OD

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Made a set of lightly hammered out Staggered Fused Claptons. I was really surprised how perfect they turned out since I was just rushing through them to quickly make a set for my Petri V2 and Noisy Cricket set up, was just cranking the drill not giving a shit how they look and they wound up perfect. After I snapped this pic I tried to put the cap on and realized theyre too big for the Petri...go figure.

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mach1ne

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nice work @Mythical_OD. those are stupid hard. yours look pretty much perfect. and yeah i did the same thing with the tsuka coils i made. was so happy to even have made them, i just installed them on my only open deck and found out i was about two wraps too big. had to swap builds all over to finally get the tsukas into a goon clone (minus one wrap).
 

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Made a set of lightly hammered out Staggered Fused Claptons. I was really surprised how perfect they turned out since I was just rushing through them to quickly make a set for my Petri V2 and Noisy Cricket set up, was just cranking the drill not giving a shit how they look and they wound up perfect. After I snapped this pic I tried to put the cap on and realized theyre too big for the Petri...go figure.

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Will taking a wrap off make it fit and still be usable on the nc?


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MidwestExpress

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Didnt want to end up in another "vaper blows face off" article, we have enough problems as it is with the deeming regs

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Have you or are you going to go back to look for it?

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NEW IPV's and CLTV4 are out!
CLT V4 LINK (TM and Velocity Posts that can swap out!!)
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I am safe from all of these :) CLTV4 - its just a no, too many leak points. Mods I can wait for the Hohm Slice (though it is difficult....aaaarrrrgh where is my Hohm Slice....aaaarrrrgh!) plus 2x 18650 and 200w really.... nuhuh.

I coulda been tempted by the 2x26650 mod they had but its sold out so, cool.
 

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I really want to

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I always think about if I have to ditch a mod for some reason. I will def go look for it! Never know what it will look like, might be just fine. NC has tons of vent space. Might just need cleaned really well to get all the melted battery guts out of it!
 

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Some Aliens from this Morning..The Multicores seem to be a great vape on a Parallel Box...FAST ramp up and they perform like on a Regulated box around 140w...which is exactly the vape I was looking for, I think Im going to keep playing around with these and really dial it in!

Multicore Aliens: 5x28N80/30N80
Multicore Cat Track Aliens 5x28N80/30N80
High Gauge Aliens: 3x26N80/40N80

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Schmucko

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I always think about if I have to ditch a mod for some reason. I will def go look for it! Never know what it will look like, might be just fine. NC has tons of vent space. Might just need cleaned really well to get all the melted battery guts out of it!
I really just want my griffin back. Was gonna buy a new nc anyways

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Mythical_OD

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I just recently threw my nc out of my car because the button got stuck. Not positive the batteries were venting but i wasnt gonna take the chance since the thing would not stop smoking (yes, smoking) and i was getting on the freeway. But i was running a .4 setup and that was an angry vape, cant imagine a .2

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That sucks man. Id be PISSED if I had to chuck my Cricket out the window and let it go. I use a authentic Petri V2 with Cloud Cap (soon) and Dotcap on it, so its a $160 RDA setup on top of a $20 mod lol. I think for that Id just throw the thing in the back seat and hope it doesnt catch the car on fire.
 

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Just finished this...I wanted to try this since I first completed a Corrugated Build...No Support Ribbon..just the Corrugated Ribbon and the Staggered Sides. Its just like a Framed Staple but Covers more ground.

SPECS: 8X.4R/26N80/38N80/40N80 CSSFC (4 Wraps/3mm ID @ .09)

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MidwestExpress

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Update of my braid from the other day..

6.5 wraps at 3mm comes in at .49 ohm. Sitting in my 13h9h going on my NC.

About to go outside for break to see how she vapes...

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OK... very sad right now. Even though this thing is clocking in at .49... you get abou 1.5sec of super dense flavorful nice vape and then hell fire! Mother of all things Holy in this world that is a rough vape! Not sure what is going on as this is only my second coil going onto my NC, but this is a no go for now! Going to have to use this on my regulated boxes for now.

What did I not take into account for? Is it that this is a single coil build and not a dual? The vape was very dense, flavorful and no spitting at all. Just so hot it is like lung fire.
 

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OK... very sad right now. Even though this thing is clocking in at .49... you get abou 1.5sec of super dense flavorful nice vape and then hell fire! Mother of all things Holy in this world that is a rough vape! Not sure what is going on as this is only my second coil going onto my NC, but this is a no go for now! Going to have to use this on my regulated boxes for now.

What did I not take into account for? Is it that this is a single coil build and not a dual? The vape was very dense, flavorful and no spitting at all. Just so hot it is like lung fire.
I build for .38-.4 for Dual Coils...I would try for .8 for a single coil on the NC, something large and beefy to handle the power and not get overly hot
 

MidwestExpress

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I build for .38-.4 for Dual Coils...I would try for .8 for a single coil on the NC, something large and beefy to handle the power and not get overly hot
That is what I was afraid of after I made the coil. I was thinking that I should have doubled my normal .4 ohm coil since I was going single. I guess this is how we learn! Going to have to make another one of these bad boys. I like what little vape I get from it and I can do these braids without looking... so I will make another run of it. I wish I had a rafale x so I could make another short run and just add to this one...
 

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That is what I was afraid of after I made the coil. I was thinking that I should have doubled my normal .4 ohm coil since I was going single. I guess this is how we learn! Going to have to make another one of these bad boys. I like what little vape I get from it and I can do these braids without looking... so I will make another run of it. I wish I had a rafale x so I could make another short run and just add to this one...
You could make another coil (not the same) but have the same resistance and it will work just fine..
 

Iliketurtles

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Braids tend to be hot as all hell, you normally have 4 wires or more so it is in effect a quad coil or more and all the wires are in contact so they all heat each other up as well. You can level it out a bit by claptonning the braid to give it some extra mass to heat up but they usually aren't gonna be good for a long deep draw. Like an alien wire is usually 3 cores so effectively it is 3 parallel coils per coil, without the clapton to slow that shit down it would get real hot real fast, it gets hot fast enough with the clapton wire on it.
 

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Braids tend to be hot as all hell, you normally have 4 wires or more so it is in effect a quad coil or more and all the wires are in contact so they all heat each other up as well. You can level it out a bit by claptonning the braid to give it some extra mass to heat up but they usually aren't gonna be good for a long deep draw. Like an alien wire is usually 3 cores so effectively it is 3 parallel coils per coil, without the clapton to slow that shit down it would get real hot real fast, it gets hot fast enough with the clapton wire on it.
I did a 5 Core Alien Earlier...Its nice with no ramp up..even with 30g for a clapton!
 

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Braids tend to be hot as all hell, you normally have 4 wires or more so it is in effect a quad coil or more and all the wires are in contact so they all heat each other up as well. You can level it out a bit by claptonning the braid to give it some extra mass to heat up but they usually aren't gonna be good for a long deep draw. Like an alien wire is usually 3 cores so effectively it is 3 parallel coils per coil, without the clapton to slow that shit down it would get real hot real fast, it gets hot fast enough with the clapton wire on it.
This braid is 10 wires. I put this build on my g2 in xXx mode at 70 watts at 380 and I get no more than 2-3 sec draw. Then gets hot and funky tasting. Might just call this a failure. Get too low in watts and just doesn't ramp. Bummer

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Iliketurtles

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Staples / Fraples are I suppose the other wires we make that generally have lots of cores and when you look at how thin those cores are I guess that is what gives them their great flavour and speed characteristics. They have all those 'channels' and a pretty quick ramp up time plus vapor escapes easily from all parts of the coil. Mmmmmmm I like them.
 

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I think if you are using more wires than an alien you do need thin wires. Aliens with 26 as cores I tend to use 32/34 as clapton to slow them down a bit. If you put like a 38 wrap on it will just go zero to inferno in 3 seconds.
Im using 5x28N80 Cores, Im sure 30KA1 Cores and Wrap would make it a much smoother vape. The best part is you clapton a 26g wire for the 4/5x28g Alien
 

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Im using 5x28N80 Cores, Im sure 30KA1 Cores and Wrap would make it a much smoother vape. The best part is you clapton a 26g wire for the 4/5x28g Alien
You start to get a problem with size is the main issue, I put some 3mm id 3x26 32wrap aliens in the goon and it virtually killed all the airflow just too big to fit in there and not stifle the air - had to take one out. :(
 

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Im using 5x28N80 Cores, Im sure 30KA1 Cores and Wrap would make it a much smoother vape. The best part is you clapton a 26g wire for the 4/5x28g Alien
I am trying to rethink my clapton building now. I always just use 40k to clapton everything. I'm wanting to build some claptons to give a good dense vape in my conqueror and alleria. What core size and wrap should I go with?

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I am trying to rethink my clapton building now. I always just use 40k to clapton everything. I'm wanting to build some claptons to give a good dense vape in my conqueror and alleria. What core size and wrap should I go with?

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I'm the same way, 40g on everything except my Staples in the Boreas (bought 36g to try aliens, figured I'd take the easy route on my first thick staples too)
 

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I am trying to rethink my clapton building now. I always just use 40k to clapton everything. I'm wanting to build some claptons to give a good dense vape in my conqueror and alleria. What core size and wrap should I go with?

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I put some Alien Framed Staples in the Alleria, Just make sure what ever you put in the Alleria keep the ID to 2.5mm and make sure the coil fits between the wicking ports for fitment.
I like Framed Staples or Fused Claptons in it myself

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Braids tend to be hot as all hell, you normally have 4 wires or more so it is in effect a quad coil or more and all the wires are in contact so they all heat each other up as well. You can level it out a bit by claptonning the braid to give it some extra mass to heat up but they usually aren't gonna be good for a long deep draw. Like an alien wire is usually 3 cores so effectively it is 3 parallel coils per coil, without the clapton to slow that shit down it would get real hot real fast, it gets hot fast enough with the clapton wire on it.

You're right, they are much better on a regulated mod so you can dial back the power, ive tried so hard to make some of the braids work on a mech but you end up with a really thin braid that takes you away from the whole idea of why you are using them in the first place, wick coverage.
With some braids like the basic weave like how a girl would make a pony tail in hair you can twist up just the very ends that go into the post holes which will raise the ohm's, so will work in your favour.
Some of the wires where you have say 2 or 3 internal wires masked by braid work well in mech parallels, like you said about the mass of the wire taking slightly longer to heat up as in maybe a framed clapton braid
 

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Been a while. Tapatalk been shutting me out of VU for a while.


Anyways. How's everyone doing? I'll be building some attys up tomorrow night, get back the swing I'll share photos:)

Matt
 

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Although I love doing coil porn and various intricate builds (just haven't had time to do any lately), sometimes simplicity is the key. This is a simple fused Clapton build I made in the Velocity for the Noisy Cricket. This thing hits like a fucking powerhouse.

2x30SS316L/42KA1, 11/12 wraps, 3.0mm ID, 0.58Ω

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Something I made yesterday...a 30PLY .3/46N80 Staple
Looks good! The most I've done to date is 20X0.5 ply. What's the resistance on that build?
 

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Looks good! The most I've done to date is 20X0.5 ply. What's the resistance on that build?
Thanks Chef! Its a bit low, I may make them into single coils instead but its .05 Dual Coil (4 wraps/3mm Id)...It firest on the Hohm Wrecker with no issues but I like using the G2 for the Boreas......I need more G2's :cool:
I wouldnt do more then 20 PLY if you want it to be a usable setup in Dual Coil.

BTW Here's a tip for everyone having trouble with Keeping Ribbon or other builds just like you want if you cant get them there atleast once. Heat up some Wax (candle or w/e) and let it turn to a liquid and then dip the tip of the build in it and let it cool and harden...then your all set! Its harder then Tape and holds like glue and you can easily clip that end off or melt it off when your done!
 
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Interesting idea. Just be careful to make sure it doesn't "wick" further down the ribbon that you intend it to.
I've heard of people vaping wax, but I don't think that this is what they're referring to... :eek: :p :D
 

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