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[f1r3b1rd]

Being told to go back to Serbia and being called an asshole is just people disagreeing with you? Weird.

no, being told to go back, because, you bitched about everything and went off on everyone is more like telling you to just go back to where you were happy

 

[f1r3b1rd]

lets see, you rant about how much of a fighter you are, and how much you love to fight, and don't care what people think. but want people to be nice to you after you fight with them?

trying to find the logic in that.

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

no, being told to go back, because, you bitched about everything and went off on everyone is more like telling you to just go back to where you were happy

I bitched about what the VA did to vets, I bitched about the government. This whole thread is bitching about the government, but when a foreigner does it? GOD, blasphemy.

You people are the trash of the Earth, you have a million opinions but no accomplishments to back them up. Thanks for a wonderful laugh, I'll give you my home address if you'd like to send hate mail. Too bad I didn't have popcorn.

I don't care if you're nice to me, but I have a need to correct ignorance. Go be loyal to your piece of fabric, I have a life to get back to.

 

[Hottvapz]

Who was I treating like shit before a swarm of people attacked me? The shit they say to me is fine but when I say shit back it's JUST me and me alone who is the asshole? This is the flag that represents things like the FDA. The flag is not the country, the flag is a symbol of the government running it.

To some us our flag isn't a representation of our government. Its a symbol of the men and women killed or wounded. You may feel differently. I sir lost a brother overseas. The flag isn't government the flag for me is pride.So talking about pissing on it I take that personally. So I say in kind dueces

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[The Cromwell]

no, being told to go back, because, you bitched about everything and went off on everyone is more like telling you to just go back to where you were happy

People like that are not happy. They are angry and want everyone who disagrees them to suffer. All who disagree with them are the source of their problems.

 

[5150sick]

Seriously, this country needs another April 19, 1775 to happen. It's just like, no, it's WORSE than the 13 Colonies back then. I'm from Serbia, which up until recently was basically third world, and it felt like we had more freedoms there than I do here.

How would you personally set this plan into action?

 

[Hank F. Spankman]

http://www.usflag.org/iamtheflag.html

 

[5150sick]

I've had close friends die that had their funerals picketed.

I've had friends come back with PTSD so bad a car alarm triggers them so hard they can't function and the VA won't even supply them with $1 and a service dog.

I come home with metal in my leg and regardless of how I act, even if I'm silent, I've been thanked TWICE in two years. People who don't know anything about me BUT that I served don't thank me..

Just wondering if the whole Vietnam thing didn't cause you to already know to expect this?
Since you are a genius and all.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I bitched about what the VA did to vets, I bitched about the government. This whole thread is bitching about the government, but when a foreigner does it? GOD, blasphemy.

You people are the trash of the Earth, you have a million opinions but no accomplishments to back them up. Thanks for a wonderful laugh, I'll give you my home address if you'd like to send hate mail. Too bad I didn't have popcorn.

I don't care if you're nice to me, but I have a need to correct ignorance. Go be loyal to your piece of fabric, I have a life to get back to.

lmao! that's just funny, ho you select which part of you own statements you choose to believe.
this thread is about the FDA and their attempt to ban vaping. NOT about riling people up.
BItching about America and its citizens, pissing on the flag. is not fighting the fda.

enjoy your time at home, and simmer down

 

[Nailz]

You didn't bitch about the government, you disrespected the flag, 2 different things, even you don't think so, you did, and if you really know about the US, you would know that, you go to vets and piss on the flag in front of them, they will kick your ass.

You act as everyone owes you.....nevermind, not wasting anymore time

 

[f1r3b1rd]

To some us our flag isn't a representation of our government. Its a symbol of the men and women killed or wounded. You may feel differently. I sir lost a brother overseas. The flag isn't government the flag for me is pride.So talking about pissing on it I take that personally. So I say in kind dueces

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thank you for your service...


I would think anyone who served would see the flag the same, no?

 

[Hottvapz]

thank you for your service...


I would think anyone who served would see the flag the same, no?

You would think so.

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[always9988]

To me it's not what you say about the flag or country or government. I could give two fucks about your opinions.

It's the fact that you fucked with people I love. Take that shit elsewhere

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

Nobody owes me shit nor do I want them to owe me shit.

Also to do the dude wanting prpl hrt pics, it's buried a foot under my mother's grave, now I'm sure that's just a lie, but you can buy replica's on the god damned internet so that's more of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

I don't want anything from any of you. It's a piece of fabric, love it. What I don't understand is you burn me at the stake and call me disrespectful but act like a bunch of savages doing so. Also I have no idea what the 'Vietnam' thing is referring to, but, that's evidently neither here nor there.

I don't care if you like me, hell I knew you didn't. I don't expect you to like me. If you do, that's a plus. It's a flag, just because I served, just because I live here, just because of WHATEVER doesn't mean I have to respect it. That's great if you do, I respect the country, not the fabric of corruption.

This hate train took off before I even made that post, so it's pretty pointless for me to say anything, your minds were made up before I said anything.

Just don't think you've: moved, offended, changed my thinking, etc. from any of this. I thought it was pretty funny. Come follow me back to the rebuildable forum where I normally am if you're on with the hate train. I'm a vet who doesn't care about a flag. Believe me or don't, I'll sleep fine at night. The only person who needs to believe me is the person who by default knows the truth, me.

The rest of you are just lines of text, but this is a great example of mob mentality. Call it a social experiment and put it on Youtube.

Thanks for the laugh guys, I'll go back to where I usually am, sorry to interrupt your hate speech of me, I know how much you guys like it.

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

Check one post above you sport, the whole pics or it didn't happen thing doesn't really bother me. I buried it a foot under the one person who ever gave a fuck about me growing up who I lost to the Bosnian conflicts. I don't care if you believe that or even understand it. What is important to me isn't to you.

At the end of the day, you are a bunch of grown ass people losing your shit over something someone in another country, probably China, sewn up real nice in a shop. Yeah, clearly I'm the fool here. You guys got me good. Seriously, I'm out. This is sort of a brick wall situation.

 

[Hottvapz]

Check one post above you sport, the whole pics or it didn't happen thing doesn't really bother me. I buried it a foot under the one person who ever gave a fuck about me growing up who I lost to the Bosnian conflicts. I don't care if you believe that or even understand it. What is important to me isn't to you.

You said you were leaving. Please remove yourself from this thread.

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[pulsevape]

Yep but the other side has control now...
Why aren't they doing something?

Could it be because they like some things the other side did? But do not want to say that?

yeah they do, but they do it against the will of the rank and file....whereas the rank and file of the dnc are hungering for even a more controling even more ...powerfull more beuracrtic state...despite the fact that Obama's butt buddy Chavez legacy to Venezuela turned out to be...famine. and the people of europe are rejecting the democratic socialists and the EU
also the reason the congress in NOW no longer controled by the DNC is because of a historic mid-term election in which the people realized that Obama was a dictator and that they needed somebody hopefully congress to push back against his dillusions...but it didn't work out that way and that is why the RNC was destroyed by it's own members...whereas the rank and file of the DNC will do exactlly as they are told and vote for exactlly who they are told to vote for....they are sheep.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

lots of stories in there.... my brains hurt

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

One last thing, this is to the mods.

If someone talks about legal medication issues in the Boreas thread, it's moved to a separate thread and it's locked.

Anything else off-topic, moved.

A hate speech about me in an important thread, you guys join in happily.

That's a great practice.

 

[5150sick]

I just asked two very simple questions.
I could care less what you do on your own land with your own things.
That's your business not mine or anybody else's as far as i'm concerned.
As you see neither of my questions had anything to do with flag burning.
But you didn't answer the questions.

 

[Nailz]

One last thing, this is to the mods.

If someone talks about legal medication issues in the Boreas thread, it's moved to a separate thread and it's locked.

Anything else off-topic, moved.

A hate speech about me in an important thread, you guys join in happily.

That's a great practice.

Nobody is making you stay on the forum either, 'x' in the right corner takes you away

 

[5150sick]

Also please do not look at me as a moderator as i am not here to moderate you or censor you.
I am just asking questions as a fellow forum member.

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

I PM'd you, it's hard for me to EVEN SEE THEM when every time I hit refresh 14 new hate posts pop up.

 

[Huckleberried]

One last thing, this is to the mods.

If someone talks about legal medication issues in the Boreas thread, it's moved to a separate thread and it's locked.

Anything else off-topic, moved.

A hate speech about me in an important thread, you guys join in happily.

That's a great practice.

In reply to yet another post you started.

You want to piss on the flag of the USA, this is what happens.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

kind of amusing, one who posts hate at others, doesn't like it being returned in kind

 

[pulsevape]

Check one post above you sport, the whole pics or it didn't happen thing doesn't really bother me. I buried it a foot under the one person who ever gave a fuck about me growing up who I lost to the Bosnian conflicts. I don't care if you believe that or even understand it. What is important to me isn't to you.

At the end of the day, you are a bunch of grown ass people losing your shit over something someone in another country, probably China, sewn up real nice in a shop. Yeah, clearly I'm the fool here. You guys got me good. Seriously, I'm out. This is sort of a brick wall situation.

you're a fucking immigrant numbnuts......you are talking to people whose families have fought and died and loved and lived under that flag for maybe 300 -400 years....are you to thick to realize where they are coming from, or are you to obtuse to grasp that what you said may be construed as offensive....

 

[The Cromwell]

kind of amusing, one who posts hate at others, doesn't like it being returned in kind

It is soooo typical of that mindset.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

you're a fucking immigrant numbnuts......you are talking to people whose families have fought and died and loved and lived under that flag for maybe 300 -400 years....are you to thick to realize where they are coming from, or are you to obtuse to grasp that what you said may be construed as offensive....

I'm thinking
C) just trolling for another response..
typical troll, looking for a hate reaction; for the benefit of his own amusement, and he got it.

 

[RMarcusY]

Vietnam veteran.

 

[Hank F. Spankman]

View attachment 51498
Vietnam veteran.

Damn Marcus, I knew you were old. But I didn't think you were THAT damn old lol

 

[The Cromwell]

I personally am not into symbology and that includes flags. It is just how I roll. Yep I am strange.
HOWEVER.
I consider it wrong to demean a symbol that means a great deal to others. Be it a flag, a religious book or whatever.

Well maybe Justin Beiber

 

[f1r3b1rd]

View attachment 51498
Vietnam veteran.

^^ what Hank said.

thank you for your service, my friend

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

I didn't post hate at anyone, it's over a flag over a country I did serve, don't care if you believe it or not, that's taken more than one of my rights away. Boohoo about who you knew or who you lost I've seen it in front of me as a kid and when I served. I'm not proud of going there, I didn't save some litter of kids or jump on a grenade, I'm not a hero. I've gotten more hate for what I've done than thanks, but clearly, yeah, makes sense.

3rd Battalion, 9th Regiment Corporal Naumov DM. You can't take that away from me, I wish you could, believe me, but you can't.

I wasn't looking for hate, I wasn't trolling. I spoke what I thought, and I was attacked in mass, even by mods. I try to explain I don't hate the COUNTRY but the government, I get called bipolar. This is just hate, it's a pile of hate, and to be honest I am fucking upset, I've never even felt upset in years but I do feel upset. If I knew what the fuck was going to come out of this I wouldn't have said it. The whole thread is pissing on this country but when I DO IT, the whole forum grinds to a halt.

Yeah. Really. I'm the asshole.

The new quote will be, now he's looking for pity. Pretty sure I can call that.

If you want to pledge allegiance to a flag, a flag that flies outside the buildings where people take rights like vaping away, you go ahead.

I'm proud of who I fucking am, I don't care who believes it or not.

 

[Huckleberried]

View attachment 51498
Vietnam veteran.

Thank you.

 

[Hank F. Spankman]

I didn't post hate at anyone, it's over a flag over a country I did serve, don't care if you believe it or not, that's taken more than one of my rights away. Boohoo about who you knew or who you lost I've seen it in front of me as a kid and when I served. I'm not proud of going there, I didn't save some litter of kids or jump on a grenade, I'm not a hero. I've gotten more hate for what I've done than thanks, but clearly, yeah, makes sense.

3rd Battalion, 9th Regiment Corporal Naumov DM. You can't take that away from me, I wish you could, believe me, but you can't.

I wasn't looking for hate, I wasn't trolling. I spoke what I thought, and I was attacked in mass, even by mods. I try to explain I don't hate the COUNTRY but the government, I get called bipolar. This is just hate, it's a pile of hate, and to be honest I am fucking upset, I've never even felt upset in years but I do feel upset. If I knew what the fuck was going to come out of this I wouldn't have said it. The whole thread is pissing on this country but when I DO IT, the whole forum grinds to a halt.

Yeah. Really. I'm the asshole.

The new quote will be, now he's looking for pity. Pretty sure I can call that.

If you want to pledge allegiance to a flag, a flag that flies outside the buildings where people take rights like vaping away, you go ahead.

I'm proud of who I fucking am, I don't care who believes it or not.

Yes. In this case you ARE an asshole!
http://www.usflag.org/iamtheflag.html

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

Well I'm proud to be an asshole. You fly your FDA banners when the FDA is a part of that flag, but if I disrespect it, whatever.

You know, it would've been okay if it stopped there. But it didn't, it didn't even really start there. 20% of what's been said has been about the flag, 80% was pure hate.

I'm not going to apologize for the way I think. Or why I am the way I am, anybody who doesn't like it, well, they're not going to do anything but hammer their keyboards and pretend to be heroes.

Go to a real VA Bar. See how many give a fuck about the flag, you'll be surprised. I've seen a guy called Old Ron use a folded up flag as a coaster for his fucking Bourbon

If you're a vet, and you want to jump my ass for that comment, fine. You have a right to, if you can go through what we vets have, come back ,see this country and still respect it, fine. If you aren't a vet, and your only prospect of proof is a picture of something you can photoshop onto a hand or buy on Ebay, something I gave to my dead mother because she was all I ever had as a kid, then you want to call ME the hateful asshole.

Look in the mirror, you people are a bunch of savages.

 

[always9988]

Thought you were leaving

 

[Nailz]

I have a american flag flying outside my house, does that make me government then?

Also I agree on the trolling, because it is not like a secret that you don't disrespect the US flag, you might think it is a government flag, but your a minority in that thinking, damn I am immigrant myself, only became a american citizen a month ago, and I respect the flag more than you and insulted by your comment, which of course you don't care about the people you've insulted, but want a pity party for your hurt feelings, you sir, have brought the hate on yourself, no one else.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

mods are members to Mikhail, this is not ECF.
we have an opinon and participate like anyone else.
you cant go 3 hours without mentioning you are from Serbia, obviously you are proud of your heritage.
did ever cross your mind that we are also? I haven't seen a single post bashing your native country, yet, you've spent the last few hours bashing ours.

We are a police state with a pseudo-voting system that creates a placebo effect for the people. The government rules all, the people individually mean nothing. The bright side is together, with lawsuits and getting the less corrupt to listen to us, we still have power. But as civilians alone, we can do nothing, it's who we get to help us.

Seriously, this country needs another April 19, 1775 to happen. It's just like, no, it's WORSE than the 13 Colonies back then. I'm from Serbia, which up until recently was basically third world, and it felt like we had more freedoms there than I do here. That's PATHETIC. I can't believe I enlisted in the Marines and served this bastard country. I served for the men beside me, I'd piss on this countries flag.

The difference between a dictatorship and a democracy/republic is when you give people the ILLUSION of freedom they're less likely to revolt. They may be corrupt bastards but they're smart in that regard.

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

Naw, I'm staying. This is about a lot more than hate or, anything else now.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Thought you were leaving

naaa- not done trolling

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

mods are members to Mikhail, this is not ECF.
we have an opinon and participate like anyone else.
you cant go 3 hours without mentioning you are from Serbia, obviously you are proud of your heritage.
did ever cross your mind that we are also? I haven't seen a single post bashing your native country, yet, you've spent the last few hours bashing ours.

http://www.thenation.com/article/th...n-public-safety-is-the-american-police-state/

 

[always9988]

Oh please continue so clever and witty. We are all fucking thrilled to pieces that you are continuing to stink up the place

 

[f1r3b1rd]

http://www.thenation.com/article/th...n-public-safety-is-the-american-police-state/

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

I'm not trolling. You want to question things I say, well I'm here to back up the things I say. It's a matter of honor to me at this point, not from any of you, but in myself. Think of me as the tank man, just keep trying to run me over.

We can play this game. You can laugh, you can spew hate, and for every response saying I'm wrong I'll list evidence against it. See in a REAL debate, you would have a counter. I just see LOL's and fuck you's. Yet I'm the idiot. So, let's do it then. Run me over.

I am not a troll, and I will not tuck my head between my legs and flee. In this magical open forum, if you want to call me wrong, you go ahead. I will provide evidence for my claims, if you have none for your claims, that should tell you something. This isn't about the flag. I will stand until you kill me because now, I don't have a reason not to.

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

http://www.activistpost.com/2016/03/call-it-what-it-is-america-is-a-police-state.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/01/is-america-a-police-state-for-many-yes.html

 

[RMarcusY]

Go to a real VA Bar. See how many give a fuck about the flag, you'll be surprised.

I've never been to any of those bars.

 

[JuicyLucy]

you are talking to people whose families have fought and died and loved and lived under that flag for maybe 300 -400 years..

This country is only 240 years old and the modern flag has only been flying since 1959, when Alaska and Hawaii were added to the union

Just sayin'

Now can we please go back to addressing the real problem: the FDA?

 

[f1r3b1rd]

haha you're cherry picking from the grape vine of liberal outets... in a thread that is about the FDA!

if you want to discuss this garbage and your skewed views of a nation you claim to love and defend, go start a thread and let this get back on topic.

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

Oh NOW it's about the FDA, thought it was about hating me. Then by all means, finally do what should've happened pages back.

I didn't ask to discuss it, you want to hate me for saying something then call evidence for it bullshit then scapegoat me as the cause of all the hate, fine. Go back to the FDA, all it would've taken was for people to hold their tongue over a damned piece of fabric.

Go to a real VA Bar. See how many give a fuck about the flag, you'll be surprised.

I've never been to any of those bars.

I don't recommend you do man, it's all freshies who haven't been deployed bringing guests, who are almost always some 18 year old girl with them to be 'impressed'.

The thing is, if you served in Vietnam, godspeed. You were probably forced, and I have untold respect for you. Even if not, that was something that demands respect. The 'war' I fought in, I regret being there, but the one thing I took home was serving with the people beside me.

I made a choice to serve in a war that didn't need to be fought, and, I did things over there I won't forget. I don't see myself as a hero, I see myself as the opposite as that word. I don't expect anything, it was just a part of my comment.



Yes I said hateful shit, disrespectful shit, right back to people who started saying that shit to me over an opinion I hold. Fine, but then I'm the problem over OPINIONS. It takes two, or in this case many, to tango. I wasn't looking for hate, wasn't looking for shit. I made a comment I thought relevant, I have a mind and I will speak it. I will not apologize for that. Move on then, like you should have.

Feel free to HATE the shit out of me, but don't act like I'm the sole cause for having an opinion I was attacked en mass for having, then don't call me a troll for defending myself. I expected shit to go on as it had. Really, I did.