Do I believe it's meant for children? I don't believe is meant for children. I think parents are meant for children however elected officials seem to be able to dismiss that. I would say my biggest fear is it being used against us at this time.
Exactly. We can't give these folks a fucking inch. I don't care if somebody wants to vape a sponge bob mod. But what about the childrens???! I'll tell you what about the childrens, I'm a parent. My kid knows not to touch my guns unless we're at the range, not to play with chainsaws and not to drink the ammonia under the damned sink. That's 'cos daddy *tells* her what's what. I understand where the point comes from but I reject the idea on principle.
I understand your point
And, sadly, they're not the only ones in govt claiming that fruit and candy flavors are for targeting kids. Here's another must watch (though it's nearly an hour and half in length) http://www.c-span.org/video/?319401-1/fda-regulation-ecigarettes
Yep, like was said above, it's about tax revenue. Also, Russia has a lower incarceration rate per capita than the U.S, maybe not such a bad option...
I agree with you about the parenting but what Mrs Boxer is talking about marketing. The one guy had already said the 40s plus people liked the cherry flavor and she still comes back and ask again who it was marketed to. They have an agenda and are going to stick to it no matter what the facts are. Now we have to pay attention to whom they were speaking to. They were speaking to people from the big tobacco companies e-cig divisions, so Mrs. Boxer remembers the less they were told by them before (the parent companies ). So I understand where she is coming from. But like I have said many times before it's all about the money. I will shut up now. Sorry.
Exactly. I work hard for my money, as well as anyone else, and should be able to spend it as I choose. I was controlled as a child but am now an adult and should be given liberties as such. I don't need a government nanny to slap my hand and tell me what I can and cannot do because it isn't "good" for me or will make be a "bad influence" on someone else.
Like the horrible shit the girl scouts sell is healh food....those cookies can in no way be thought of as food or nurishment.....and who exactlly are the group the Girl Scouts are trageting for the horrible crap they sell..kids that's who they are targeting.? I have a sister whose a dentist and she would never allow her children to eat that stuff...we have a huge obesity problem and the girl scouts are selling cookies to overwieght people every year.
In a way it doesn't matter. We were already screwed long before this. When people start looking for scapegoats, the battle is already lost. This one vendor isn't why everything is gonna turn out so bad. He is just ONE of MANY examples. A very small piece of the puzzle. Don't get me wrong....HE is wrong, but you're giving this one guy too much credit/blame, We vapers tend to be great armchair quarterbacks and second guessers. We just don't seem to be able to find the time to attend city council meetings or do anything proactive to help our cause. We can type like heroes on message boards, but when it's time to log out of our Facebook mod group (or drop the Xbox or Playstation controller..lol) the action just doesn't ever happen. People were just joining the Vaping Militia to get the cool dog tags man...believe that...lol THAT is why things are going to go so badly. Not one vendor with silly cartoons on his label. And 5150, I don't know you. That comment was directed at the community in general, not specifically at you. If we as a community want to find someone to blame for the way things are turning out, we need to START by all looking in the mirror. Just saying...
