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Ive had some really good ideas for jewelry but the only person I see making anythign close to what I want made charges insane prices...
There are Rings with fake RDA's on them with fake coils....Imagine a Ring with working postholes and screws and you could put some nice looking builds in it to show off, you could change them out when you want to...
Something like these:
but with real coils like this installed:
Just imagine a SS Ring with any of the colored Alien builds and more on it....I think it would be a huge hit for builders or people that are vape enthusiasts...
Great idea raymo...
Would SO be rocking one of those ringsIve had some really good ideas for jewelry but the only person I see making anythign close to what I want made charges insane prices...
There are Rings with fake RDA's on them with fake coils....Imagine a Ring with working postholes and screws and you could put some nice looking builds in it to show off, you could change them out when you want to...
Something like these:
but with real coils like this installed:
Just imagine a SS Ring with any of the colored Alien builds and more on it....I think it would be a huge hit for builders or people that are vape enthusiasts...
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
How do we get a hold of one of these rings? And how much?Ive had some really good ideas for jewelry but the only person I see making anythign close to what I want made charges insane prices...
There are Rings with fake RDA's on them with fake coils....Imagine a Ring with working postholes and screws and you could put some nice looking builds in it to show off, you could change them out when you want to...
Something like these:
but with real coils like this installed:
Just imagine a SS Ring with any of the colored Alien builds and more on it....I think it would be a huge hit for builders or people that are vape enthusiasts...
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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Imho, those look like shit lol
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I actually just saw this post, gonna try it in the morning... @raymo2u , is this what you've been trying to explain to me?Loop method -
1. wrap 2 or 3 loopwire wraps in same direction you will be claptonning
2. follow into first of these wraps with the clapton wire
3. you will have loop wrap then feed wire then 1 or 2 wraps of the loop all wraps same direction
4. pull tight and rip away
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Thats correct!
Im confused by what hes doing in that pic. Is it one wrap of the loop right behind the wrap wire and the other 2 in front? Whats the point of that then? Normally with the loop thing, I just use a single loop and put it directly behind the wrap wire and it works fine (as far as I know thats how its done by most). Id be interested in knowing how using a 2 or 3 wrap loop would work/benefit.
And Raymo uses the spool tamers for staggering. Ive tried it and cant get them to work properly, but to each their own. Doing that you have the spool tamer loose on the spool so it almost freely feeds out the wrap wire, then you just turn the spool to an angle where the wire is wrapping at the spacing you want it. Doing it like that you can (in principal anyways) just prevent the spool from spinning out of position and just go full blast and have properly spaced wrap.
That Loop method is what I used before the Spool Tamers, you use a 4 inch long wire and follow a few spaced loops of your clapton, it basically acts like a cookie cutter for the staggering as it passes through the 4 inch looped wire.
Ill have to do a In Depth video on how to make the Tamers stagger I guess....Its easy once you understand where to turn and hold it.
So you do 2 or 3 wraps of the loop wire behind where the wrap wire feeds? Ive been using a single loop myself, but Ill have to try using it wrapped a time or 2.
I understand how the tamers work with staggering and how to turn it, I just always run into other issues with them that makes it not work for me. I think it has to do with the size of the LV spools and the tamer getting caught up either in the spool itself or small notches and burrs on the edges of the spool.
You should retry after lining the edges with electrical tape so theres nothing to snag the wire on....maybe some glue ot tape on the fabric around the plastic feeder on the tamer also. I may do the same thing, as the wire is depleted and it gets more inside the spool Im running into the same issue with snagging....
I used 3 loops with the 4 inch wire myself, it seems more stable over the entire length, sometimes it feels like it bunches up but its still makes the Stagger down the wire...Just hold it tight!!
Basically your taking the loose Clapton wraps and wrapping the loop wire threw 3 spaces.. gotcha.
So that pic I posted is indeed what you where trying to explain to me .... hopefully this will help the issue I'm having with the loop loosing it's place sometimes and the wrap wire start to Clapton rather then stagger. Thanks again to both of you for helping out with the 3 loop idea. I can't tell you how many nights I went to sleep after chucking all my spools across the room .... GRRRRR
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The wrap wire only follows around the first loop of the loops, the other loops are just acting as a brake so it wraps tightly as a single stagger gap.
Heres another way you could space
What i tend to do is get a few wraps on my main wire spaced however you need them then i will just use my thumb and forefinger to trap lock-in the spaced part plus the clapton wire and it will space the same all the way up the length of main.
What i tend to do is get a few wraps on my main wire spaced however you need them then i will just use my thumb and forefinger to trap lock-in the spaced part plus the clapton wire and it will space the same all the way up the length of main.
Oh so yours and @raymo2u 's are different methods. His goes threw all 3 I believe
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Whichever way its the same thing, one loop or three loops it is just easier to grip and rip when you have more to hold on to. Pulling / gripping it tight means you will get a precise 1 wire stagger.
That's some background music in the video...SMH -_-
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You can also do it by the way you hold the wire (feed in angle) and by an automated rig with the loop built in. I have so many ways of automating stuff now everything I wrap except alien wire pretty much wraps itself. Even alien has some magic numbers but I think you lose your membership of the magic circle if you speak them so I am keeping schtumm 
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Give it up - inquiring minds want to know!
Then everyone will be aliening all over the place, in the streets, at home, on the beach....it isn't safe
Think of the children!!
Think of the children!!
If Chef is sayin to spill it, then you spill it. I could use some secrets for aliening (thats a word).
he he ok x7.85 and you are done, plus you get approx 66% of your alien to your core original so if you are doing 10 inches you need 15 inches of clapton wire. Better to slightly understretch the core as overstretched core is sketchy. The magic number will only be right if you did your clapton properly, otherwise you are back on feeling it out.
I got bored of 'feeling it' so I did the math
The only part of that I understood is understretch the wrap as opposed to overstretch. What is the other stuff
if you wrap 10 inches of clapton wire, stretch the decored clapton to 78.5 inches. You will get about 6ish inches of alien from it but importantly it will catch the groove perfectly for a tight wrap and it will not be trying to triangulate your cores....unless you pull too tight on it, but you will see that you don't need to...just concentrate on the slightly forward feed angle and the rest will just happen for you. I leave my core wires un-centred in the drill and the up-down stepping of the cores seems to help it catch the grooves, but different strokes and all that...whatever works for you.
Well what Ive been doin hasnt been working, so Im gonna give that a try right meow and see how it works.
Ive got it down to muscle memory already but that will help many others, I thought you had a automated system for pumping them out
Ive got it down to muscle memory already but that will help many others, I thought you had a automated system for pumping them out
Don't tell FT, they will make a machine that does it.
I did check one of the numbers
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I tried it. It does seem to be the optimal amount of stretch for wrapping the cores and having them fall in line easily, but I just cant get 3 cores to stay in line to save my life. I always wind up with a shitty pyramid and that throws off the spacing and the lining up. Ive tried using shit like paper clips (or similar) and tying them up, but they always bunch. Its frustrating lol.
The whole coil making thing is frustrating for me. Ive never had so much trouble with adapting to something new. Everything else I pick up as a hobby I seem to either have a nice run of beginners luck, or I just fall in line and adapt easily. But coil wrapping? Fuck me, Im having a hard learning curve
The whole coil making thing is frustrating for me. Ive never had so much trouble with adapting to something new. Everything else I pick up as a hobby I seem to either have a nice run of beginners luck, or I just fall in line and adapt easily. But coil wrapping? Fuck me, Im having a hard learning curve
I wonder if that number could be accurately adjusted for a dual core? I mean, I know it can be, I just suck at the maths. I can wrap dual core wire all day.
When I get my full broadband speed back I will do some pix, can't do it til the bb is fixed
I use Ribbon wire, use some .5 and LOOSELY wrap it around the cores 8 times, they should remain in parallel when wrapping or its too tight, then pinch it lightly with nylon pliers, then use it as a slider and keep it around a inch away from where your wrapping the wire.
Yah it can be adjusted for dual core ...but dual core doesn't triangle...I just pull harder if it is understretched he he
Ill try that. When wrapping it 8 times are you stacking the wraps or having the wraps next to each other so it takes more space?
Paper clips, bulldog clips, bead crimps....we use everything and anything to keep stuff where it ought to be but don't wanna be
My first alienwire build
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Actually the pic I posted looks like the one I overstretched and had to do a shove on, you can kinda tell a shoved one and that's what they look like he he
Many Many Times....thats why I started having Ideas for Jewelry
Are we telling 'simplified *alien type* wire' guy or just let him gradually come to a realisation? I vote gradual realisation
Just let him have his win, who cares if its not a real Alien Wire...Are we telling 'simplified *alien type* wire' guy or just let him gradually come to a realisation? I vote gradual realisation
While it is far from fancy i got bored a few nights ago and decided to play around wasting some wire. My current Griffin 22mm build is:
3 twisted strands of 28g kanthal paralleled with a single strand of 28g kanthal. 9 wraps, 3mm ID, @.26 ohms and at 70w it is still a nice cool vape.
http://imgur.com/a/oRYSt
3 twisted strands of 28g kanthal paralleled with a single strand of 28g kanthal. 9 wraps, 3mm ID, @.26 ohms and at 70w it is still a nice cool vape.
http://imgur.com/a/oRYSt