Most cigar smokers I know smoke cigars because they love tobbaccos and they enjoy the sensual pleasure of the varing and broad spectrum of tobaccos to experince. unlike cigarette smokers hwo just want to suck down whatever pack of crap tobacco that will give them a nic fix....they are flavor chasers.....
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Why hasn't cloud chasing just....died by now.
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Hey now....I even gots a GIF for dat!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey man, everybody was having a good time just sitting around and bullshitting. Then this cow walks up out of nowhere and just starts trying to teabag us.Hey now....I even gots a GIF for dat!!!!!!!!!!!
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Clearly the point in my statement has been stopped by your chromosomal short-comings. You just stated the reason it exists on your own. Sometimes people commit what looks like the same act for entirely different reasons, You say you smoke cigs and vape for nicotine, I say there are people that smoked cigs because it was social, shall you persecute them. Until you buy these cloud chasers mods and juice for them, I say I don't see any spare room for your opinion on what they do with them.
I vape 0 nic.
I quit smoking nearly 5-1/2 years ago. Picked up vaping a few weeks ago. Two reasons I started, and a third that hooked me:
- I've had a hellua time keeping the weight under control since I quit smoking. It's an oral thing, I expect. I thought vaping might be a more healthy way than smoking to get my grazing under control.
- My wife hasn't managed to quit smoking, tho she'd like to. She's tried. Now she's trying vaping. I figured if I joined her, perhaps that'd add a bit of incentive.
- Lastly: It's turned into a bit of a hobby. For example Last night I bought a Tobeco Super Tank Mini. It can take Atlantis and Trident coils. There's an RBA for the Trident. So I bought the TSTM, an Atlantis coil and the Triton RBA kit, just to see how it would work out.
I have utterly zero desire for nicotine. Do not need. Do not want.
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That reply makes complete sense. But that's not the way I use my vape, so I'm going to continue believing that everyone else is doing it wrong.
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Are you sure it's Trident? I never heard of a Trident tank, only a Trident RDA. Could it be you're thinking of the Triton?
Yeah. Triton. I keep doing that.
While I see your point, and agree somewhat. I have a different take on this. I get my pleasure from the feeling of inhaling said cloud. That was also the hook, in smoking cigarettes. I simply enjoyed the way it felt on the inhale.
I don't do huge clouds like we see so often in videos. But, they're big enough that people have commented on the amount of vapor produced. And this may be my downfall as I try to quit vaping. I've been vaping 2mg Nic for the past 2 weeks now, and only a slight decrease in juice usage.
I'm starting to wonder if I'll be able to put everything down, in the end. That is my goal.
I don't do huge clouds like we see so often in videos. But, they're big enough that people have commented on the amount of vapor produced. And this may be my downfall as I try to quit vaping. I've been vaping 2mg Nic for the past 2 weeks now, and only a slight decrease in juice usage.
I'm starting to wonder if I'll be able to put everything down, in the end. That is my goal.
I get that.
see i dont get 2 things
1. How the fuck do i get the same amount of flavor i do using a crown with a .5 coil at 55watts without the amount of clouds it produces????
Ive asked before, never seem to get a real answer.
SO ive kinda felt I am stuck in the clouds to get the flavor I want
2. Why hasnt this thread died and gone away yet??
1. How the fuck do i get the same amount of flavor i do using a crown with a .5 coil at 55watts without the amount of clouds it produces????
Ive asked before, never seem to get a real answer.
SO ive kinda felt I am stuck in the clouds to get the flavor I want
2. Why hasnt this thread died and gone away yet??
That's my point too Matt, clouds and flavor go hand in hand and everybody accepts that except a few posts in this thread....not worth wasting our time debating with folks who think otherwise... We know, and that's all that counts,
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You have to use something other than a Mc Nugget tank...like a genny...
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Life has always been plauged with fads bro
tru words
a term of endearment for sub-ohm tanks.
Ok I guess I'm not awesome....
Click here to see awesome.
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/a-home-for-old-school-genisis-users.84136/page-3
Click here to see awesome.
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/a-home-for-old-school-genisis-users.84136/page-3
Is somebody forcing you to blow clouds against your will? Perhaps they percieve your over abundance of hot air.
You don't like it, don't do it.
ok i looked at the genny thread and view photos
I take it a genny is the juice on bottom some osrt of wicking material sticks out of teh tank and then you wrap a coil around that.
Actually looks ingenious to me
So why arent the more dominant in the market?
What stops them form being sub ohm?
and i see all this talk of ceramic wicking on a genny, is ceramic actually ok to vape? or is it those who use it HOPE its ok to vape.
Can you only use this ceramic wicks in gennys or can you use other more traditional materials
And besides the juice flow what makes this better for flavor versus other atomizers
I take it a genny is the juice on bottom some osrt of wicking material sticks out of teh tank and then you wrap a coil around that.
Actually looks ingenious to me
So why arent the more dominant in the market?
What stops them form being sub ohm?
and i see all this talk of ceramic wicking on a genny, is ceramic actually ok to vape? or is it those who use it HOPE its ok to vape.
Can you only use this ceramic wicks in gennys or can you use other more traditional materials
And besides the juice flow what makes this better for flavor versus other atomizers
+1 on the occulus, their $100 apple pie is spot on as well.
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@puslevape is the genny king, I've tried them and the vape is phenomenal, my issue is no matter what I've had them leak because its essentially an rdta with the tank underneath and anehickmdipping into it. hence a hole.
Being that I'm in a chair and a mod on my lap all day, I was always wearing juice. I've been told that can be fixed. just don't know how.
Additionally, the airflow on most was restrictive. granted that can be drilled out and may have been a victim of the times.
As to ceramic, its fine to vape and was used even before cotton. If not ceramic they would use stqinless steel rope that was torched until it was nonconductive.
Ceramic is also used as 'readyxwick' and is a good wicking material since it regulates heat and can be burned off and reused.
Being that I'm in a chair and a mod on my lap all day, I was always wearing juice. I've been told that can be fixed. just don't know how.
Additionally, the airflow on most was restrictive. granted that can be drilled out and may have been a victim of the times.
As to ceramic, its fine to vape and was used even before cotton. If not ceramic they would use stqinless steel rope that was torched until it was nonconductive.
Ceramic is also used as 'readyxwick' and is a good wicking material since it regulates heat and can be burned off and reused.
XYLITOL - Use of the chemical has been subject to controversy, as it is highly toxic to dogs
How can I get flavor at 55 watts? After 30, Graham Crust taste like toast to me. At 18 watts, the cloud production on my Kanger is heavy enough to block my view when driving.
I've come to the conclusion, vapor production is a myth. As I was getting great vapor production at 1.2ohm and 8 watts.
Well to all those who gave thoughtfull and intelligent feedback ..thanks alot...to those who got defensive and angry...sorry wasn't trying to offend you...most cloud chasers I know are very very cool people and i enjoy spending time with them...and admire their coil building skills, ...as for the Mcnugget tanks ...them I don't get.
you're silly...and I don't do it anymore....
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not no genny king...just a typical genhead.
they are more difficult to build, and most drippers would get fustrated trying to learn to build them right and throw them in the garbge, usually you don't use a cotton wick.and the good ones are more expensive
nothing stops them from being sub-ohm except how much juice you can get to the coil...I can vape a .6 coil, but the lowest I enjoy them at is .8 .9 they aren't the ideal atty for cloud cashing the air flow is usually small anywhere from 1.2 mm to 1.5 mm, but some have a larger adjustable airflow, and some are made to be dual wick and have larger airholes, but the idea is to chase flavor not clouds and so by a drippers standards the airflow is quite small.
what makes them better for flavor chasing is the design of the atty the smaller airflow and the materials used for the wick.
the most common wick is a stainless steel mesh that is rolled into a tube and the wire is wrapped around the tube of mesh....
porous or rigid ceramic is an unusual genny wick and not used by most people it is very very fragile, more expensive than mesh, but it is without question the wick that gives the cleanest flavor...it is thought to be very safe, but then who knows.....and then some people use cotton in their gennys....these people are shunned and ridiculed, children chase them and throw garbage t them, women refuse to have sex with them, no one will hire them...they usually wind up poor, alone, and despised.....and eventually most times take their own lives.......
almost all genheads were forced to become genny users because at the time it was the only type of atty with a tank, and they either found dripping tedious or wanted the convinence of a tank....if you don't build your own coils I'd suggest you get a tank that is rebuildable and see if you enjoy building coils, or get a dripper and see if you like building cool wire and coils....if you do then you may want to move up to a genny...if you find building a pain in the ass you'd rather not deal with .....leave them alone.
Alright, iI'll take the bait. Mimic the experience of smoking, eh? Yeah, I remember back in the day I was smoking a snickerdoodle cookie and my buddy was smoking fruit loops and we used to swap back and forth with a girl who smoked key lime pie. Sound about right? Funny how you can deviate as far as you want from traditional smoking and nobody cares unless you blow a cloud, then all hell breaks lose.
IS somebody trying to force you to blow clouds? If not, than why do you care? You can vape at 5 watts if you want to for all I care. Do you need a pep talk or something? You need to be assured that you're a good vaper even though you don't blow clouds? You're good enough, you're smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like your little clouds. Did that work? If so print it out for the next time you see someone vaping differently than you.
My job is done here. I'm off to ask a fat person why they eat a whole pie when they could get the same flavor from one slice.
Did you have the v1 or v2 deck?
Hole on the bottom (v1) or holes on the sides (v2).
I've never built on the v1, but the v2 is ridiculously easy to build IMO.
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i had both
easy to build on ? YES
but getting it to work with Ti - NOPE which is why I was trying it. The ohms would never be right no matter what. ANd the few times i did work it wouldlast for maybe a tank then it would be messed up. Chalked it up to being an inferior product for build any kind of coil. IMHO the subtank rba was designed to work well with a basic coil made of kanthal. So now I have decided ot get something meant for building coils to learn coil building on
easy to build on ? YES
but getting it to work with Ti - NOPE which is why I was trying it. The ohms would never be right no matter what. ANd the few times i did work it wouldlast for maybe a tank then it would be messed up. Chalked it up to being an inferior product for build any kind of coil. IMHO the subtank rba was designed to work well with a basic coil made of kanthal. So now I have decided ot get something meant for building coils to learn coil building on
No nobody is forcing me I'm just wondering why people still do it....at first it was like hey check this out what can we make these thing do this cool shit, and I love the builds I'm just asking why we still do it...try not being so defensive ...I mean really if every person who didn't vape below .6 went as ape shit as you everytime some numbnut with a kennedy called us "tootlepuffers" whatever the fuck that is...it'd be crazy, but hey we don't stress it....I mean i've never seen anybody get all ratched up like you over being called a dismissive and demeaning term as "tootlepuffer"....I'm just asking what is the allure....is it the feeling in the lungs, is it the mouth feel...is it how the nicotine hits, is it the novelty of the cloud size is it going to competitons(I'm trying to start a "tootlepuffer competition" at our local vape shop....although I haven't figured out how we decide who WINS ...or what we win...or why we want to win)
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but you're just a commie....nobody cares what commies think......how's winter where you are dude....I don't cloud chase
I flavor chase....
Cloud chasing is old...
VAPE ON
My God...your right....mea culpa....senilety is a bitchUr out of topic OLD MAN
VAPE ON
actually we're just jealous.......your president has balls and ours has mom jeans...Ur out of topic OLD MAN
VAPE ON
Ape shit? Me? Lol. From that?
Tootle puffer was a name created by tootle puffers. They didn't invent it to demean themselves.
Now, as for me, I'm not a cloud chaser. Some people would call me one, but clod chasers wouldn't. I got 3 builds going mg right now. .12 duals on a dual battery mech, .19 duals on a tube mech, and .39 duals in the Russian 3.0 on a VW mod at 40 watts. I like all 3, that's why I vape them. I actually get a similar vape experience off all 3 even though the power varies by nearly 60 watts at the most extreme.
I go for flavor, temp, and intensity (can't really explain it any better than intensity) and that's why I vape that way. BUT.... that wasn't really my point. My point is if this is supposed to mimic smoking, let's get on everyone that isn't vaping tobacco or menthol from a cig-a-like. A guy vaping a Cuban cigar juice at .06 ohms and creating storm systems with the clouds is no further removed from mimicking smoking than someone vaping peanut butter cup in a genesis at 10 watts. We don't smoke any more. We vape. It is and should be different.
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That's an interesting issue.
'Mimic smoking' I haven't even thought of vaping as being similar to smoking since cigalikes didn't work for me over 2 years ago. I considered it 'Replacing' now I just think of it as a totally different act.
-fyi, I smoked Belgian waffles.
'Mimic smoking' I haven't even thought of vaping as being similar to smoking since cigalikes didn't work for me over 2 years ago. I considered it 'Replacing' now I just think of it as a totally different act.
-fyi, I smoked Belgian waffles.
excellent point....have we morphed into something way beyond a smoking cessation tool....personaly I vape to mimic smoking
no I never heard anyone I know refer to themselves as a tootlepuffer...who in their right mind would.
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Yeah I think for alot of us we have.
I can hang out with smokers all day and font crave one. I'll try and take a drag once in a blue moon just because and it disgusts me. The draw is WAYY TOO TIGHT FOR ME. And even when im using a tootlepuffer setup I vape 1.5 or 0 Nic. Granted I only vape that tootlepuffer when im not feeling well. But I vape far different than I ever smoked
Actually I've heard and seen it alot in the ecf prorape subforum.
I didn't think they made it jp themselves though, its too clever. I thought it was made up by hard-core Mech users to make fun of them.
Personally, I am kind of over the animosity over vape styles. Its pointless. Alot more hobbyists enjoy all styles depending on mood. That's why we Build up large collections.
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I vaped and smoked for a couple years, then eventually I quit smoking altogether when my gear got better. I haven't had a cigarette in 3 years now, and the vaping is responsible for that. I have a buddy who still uses Vivi Novas and vapes at 7 watts. No idea how that works for him, but it does so good for him. He would probably hack up a lung if he tried to vape one of my rigs.
I thought of myself as a smoker for awhile after I quit, but now I don't even think I would start back to smoking even if my vape products got banned. It's totally foreign to me now, and the addiction to nic is different for me now. I can go hours without vaping if i had to and while I get a craving, it's not so much a compulsion as it is a desire now.