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G r o a n . . . yeah, we hit 80 today. But between all that digging yesterday and bouncing around on the mower for a couple hours today, my old body hurts so much right now that I can barely sit up at this stupid computer. Gonna fall off this chair any minute now....
 

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G r o a n . . . yeah, we hit 80 today. But between all that digging yesterday and bouncing around on the mower for a couple hours today, my old body hurts so much right now that I can barely sit up at this stupid computer. Gonna fall off this chair any minute now....
I imagine it was a productive day...!
 

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I just returned from southern AZ about 4:00 today, most of the day was driving. Twas a tad warm today, pushing 95-100 I believe....but the humidity was a zilch, actually felt nice.
 

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DRAT!
Have to get a new clothes dryer.
Wife got this one in 1971.
They just don't make em like they used to...

Mechanical timer has given up internally, not the little motor.
And can't get one and the couple of places that show them out of stock show them for around $280!!
That is 1/2 the cost of a nice new dryer.
 

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DRAT!
Have to get a new clothes dryer.
Wife got this one in 1971.
They just don't make em like they used to...

Mechanical timer has given up internally, not the little motor.
And can't get one and the couple of places that show them out of stock show them for around $280!!
That is 1/2 the cost of a nice new dryer.
I hate the new washers. Damn water savers don't clean worth a shit. We bought a nice used one last week for $60.
 

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I had been seeing MGTOW in youtube vid titles for a while.
Finally decided to find out what the heck it was.
LMFAO

Google MGTOW meaning if you want a chuckle.
 

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I had been seeing MGTOW in youtube vid titles for a while.
Finally decided to find out what the heck it was.
LMFAO

Google MGTOW meaning if you want a chuckle.
In other words, MGTOW means guys should either be gay, or celibate. I guess the MeToo movement had an expected consequence.
 

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In other words, MGTOW means guys should either be gay, or celibate. I guess the MeToo movement had an expected consequence.

Obviously incels doing their version of "I meant to do that"
 

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I sort of got the impression of 30 something guys living in their parents basement playing computer games?
Or losers who no sane woman would want?

And yes the metoo movement has had some side effects like nice guys being terrified to approach a woman at work and such.
Lose my job over a chance that she might be interested in me?
It was bad enough before..

With humans in everything there are always a few that mess things up for everyone else.
 

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I sort of got the impression of 30 something guys living in their parents basement playing computer games?
Or losers who no sane woman would want?

And yes the metoo movement has had some side effects like nice guys being terrified to approach a woman at work and such.
Lose my job over a chance that she might be interested in me?
It was bad enough before..

With humans in everything there are always a few that mess things up for everyone else.
Yep, like today's kids. If you don't give them what they want, they lie about you touching them like a pervert. And if you do give them what they want, you go to jail for contributing to the delinquency of a minor. The latter seems like a better idea, as you would not have to register as a sex predator every year.

Damn, this world is fucked up.
 

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I rather like this description (from MGTOW.com):

"Men Going Their Own Way - is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: "No". Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn't. In other words . . . common sense for men."
 

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I rather like this description (from MGTOW.com):

"Men Going Their Own Way - is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: "No". Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn't. In other words . . . common sense for men."
These new "definitions" are popping up like freshly planted grass lately.
 

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Was reading something the other night - people having sex with pots and pans....I forget what "name" they labeled themselves, but it was a doozy.
 

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Oh, there was another group too...people having sex with trees shrubs plants grass, et al....anything grown in "nature" they'd fuck it, or dry fuck it....forget now what they called themselves, but it was a doozy.
 

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I rather like this description (from MGTOW.com):

"Men Going Their Own Way - is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: "No". Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn't. In other words . . . common sense for men."

I applaud anyone who is willing to live life to suit themselves - and want to live in a world where one side doesn't oppress the other in the aim, especially by spreading mistruths like this from their history page:


These "idiotic risks" which men have taken afford women the luxury of boarding an aircraft and flying from New York to Los Angeles in 4.5 hours - while never once needing to take an interest in the basic operating principles of a jet engine. She can't explain thrust to weight ratios, but she will complain the flight was delayed 30 minutes.

Today, you can still see modern women contemplating the shape of the Earth... even though the question has been answered by men centuries ago, and most civilized 6 year-olds have already seen a globe in a classroom. Is this why anyone who says "women are smarter than men" will receive an automatic round of applause?

Seems to show a petty resentment towards women - really, there's a popular "women's movement" questioning if the earth round? I'll bet the majority of men can't explain the basic operating of a jet engine or thrust to weight issues and are equally as prone to bitch about a delayed flight
 

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These new "definitions" are popping up like freshly planted grass lately.
The reason I like that particular definition instead of the ones that so casually badmouth men in general is that I am sick and tired of the TV (whether Hollywood or the News) telling me that women should be believed regardless of how stupid their story is and men should not be believed because we are always presumed to be guilty of something, that men should fall on their faces and apologize to every sexual and ethnic group on the planet for what our great grandfathers MIGHT have done and we are still guilty and I OWE them retribution for this, that I should follow suit with every gay mother fucker and shave all the hair off my entire body because one person might be offended that I actually look like a man, etc., etc., ad nauseum. In other words, MGTOW means stop telling me what to do, leave me the fuck alone and let me live my god damn life my own way.

Sorry if some of you don't like that, but, tough shit!
 

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and TV ads where bikers are parked under a bridge to get out of the rain and one of them is on the cell phone asking about laser hair removal.... for men.
 

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And now I am going to bed too, to dream about all those fun Neanderthal things. like throwing spears at Socialists. Grrrrr....
 

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I rather like this description (from MGTOW.com):

"Men Going Their Own Way - is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: "No". Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn't. In other words . . . common sense for men."

However what that does not say is that they seem to be pretty much woman haters. And or scared of women.
 

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I agree with much of the MGTOW statement as far as it goes.
As a matter of fact I live much of it and always have.
I have no heroes, follow no pack or fashions, religions, etc.
Aside from being tied up with the Wife I am a very independent person.
And although she can be aggravating as heck, I care for her and would not hurt her.

However if you watch some of the MGTOW youtube vids it shows a much different reality than their official statement.
It appears to me that they are just trying to make their dysfunctions appear noble?
 

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I agree with much of the MGTOW statement as far as it goes.
As a matter of fact I live much of it and always have.
I have no heroes, follow no pack or fashions, religions, etc.
Aside from being tied up with the Wife I am a very independent person.
And although she can be aggravating as heck, I care for her and would not hurt her.

However if you watch some of the MGTOW youtube vids it shows a much different reality than their official statement.
It appears to me that they are just trying to make their dysfunctions appear noble?

Or their involuntary celibacy is by choice, when in reality, they just can't get any
 

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Oh, there was another group too...people having sex with trees shrubs plants grass, et al....anything grown in "nature" they'd fuck it, or dry fuck it....forget now what they called themselves, but it was a doozy.
I think it was the Free Pollenators?
 

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I think I will start "The Organization of Randomness"

Been thinking of this, well until the wife complained of smelling wood smoke :)
I think that my participation here at VU is the closest I come to belonging to an organization of any type.
 

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and TV ads where bikers are parked under a bridge to get out of the rain and one of them is on the cell phone asking about laser hair removal.... for men.

Hmmm - and I get looked down and a chided because I don't believe men or women should remove body hair - it's oppressive
 

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Hmmm - and I get looked down and a chided because I don't believe men or women should remove body hair - it's oppressive

To me it is less trouble to shave my face than to have a beard.

And most of us have been well programmed by parents, society and various media sources and even religions.
To live in a totally logical manner is impossible for humans in a "modern" society.

Even very independent humans cannot shed ALL of that, nor should they.
 

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However what that does not say is that they seem to be pretty much woman haters. And or scared of women.
I think Juice pointed that out last night. I said I liked their description, NOT their organization or their anti-woman philosophy. Whether you be male or female, live your life as YOU choose, not as some silly-ass group/club/organization tells you that you should. Those who fall in line with group-think are not (cannot be) individuals.
To me it is less trouble to shave my face than to have a beard.
Those of us who have beards still have to shave parts of the face. I don't let it grow on my cheeks or throat.
 

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Hmmm - and I get looked down and a chided because I don't believe men or women should remove body hair - it's oppressive
I don't look good with hairy legs, so my epilator takes care of it. Shaving them is stupid, and Nair stinks.
 

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Or their involuntary celibacy is by choice, when in reality, they just can't get any
Let's remember the number of mass shooters that it because they are involuntarily celibate. But then, not many women want a relationship (or sex) with a psychopath / sociopath.
 

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Let's remember the number of mass shooters that it because they are involuntarily celibate. But then, not many women want a relationship (or sex) with a psychopath / sociopath.

Maybe they should get better jobs so they can afford to pay professionals instead of blaming women not wanting to do it with them as an excuse to kill
 

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Maybe they should get better jobs so they can afford to pay professionals instead of blaming women not wanting to do it with them as an excuse to kill

Ahh but that is illegal most places.
Women do not seem to like competition?
I mean if it were legal, safe and accepted as commonplace in our society fewer men would marry?

And why are marriage licences the only licence that I know of that do not require periodic renewal?

It's a conispiracy I tell ya!

LOL
 

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