I would rather have snow than cold weather
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That's usually when it snows.....
Used to be a lot of people (when I was younger) that said things like, "It can't snow below 20 degrees." Sorry, but that's bullshit. Here, it has snowed on us at -20 (yes, a blizzard), so having snow versus cold doesn't hold up as a good measure in reality. But.... (look out, it's a big BUT).... wind is the key factor here. And I don't mean just wind chill factor. For example, it is 25 degrees with a 10 mph wind (as it was today), which makes a wind chill factor of 15 degrees. BUT, if it was 15 degrees and dead calm, I guaran-god-damn-tee that you will not feel as cold.
I was ice fishing just across the canadian border in the mid 70's, it was about -30F during a blizzard which they had to use V-Plows to get us the fuck out of there. What a nightmare that was....needless to say, I won't be doing any ice fishing in Canada anytime soon.
I won't be doing any ice fishing ever. I find ice to be very hard to filet and it doesn't fry worth a damn.
Have a good one tomorrow, Jimi...!
G'nite Jimi. Take it easy and try to stay warm.
Likewise, amigo. Catch youse guyz tamarra,
Oh, and CLICK.
Oh, and CLICK.
I can use anything. And if I find I can't get along with it, I put it in my PIF box to one day help someone else.
I'll toss them in the box, send it Tuesday.
Hey, I resemble that remark!
I go by the old pagan farmers' seasons, not calendar seasons. June 21st is called "midsummer" because it's the middle of summer, not the first day of it. And there's summer and winter, just those two seasons. Some years we have a nice Indian Summer for a few weeks, but not every year. So once in a while we have "fall."
But that's here. Lots of places have four distinct seasons, but not here. It's why I can't grow peas. We have no "spring" to grow them in. Once the snow melts enough to plant seeds, it gets way too hot for the little pea plants and they don't have a chance to flower and set fruit. I grew one tub of snow peas this year as an experiment, and THEY seemed to do OK, so I might do a bigger crop next year. They were just as sweet as the green peas, and those young, fat pods were so juicy and crunchy! YUM! Alas, I lost them in the weeds before I could pick very many of them, but I'll try harder next time.
Yup...and those skinny snow peas are delis.....i love snap peas and usually eat half of them before they make it into the house
I suppose someone has to stick up for astronomical solar cycles and heat lag, so it might as well be me (you know, that encyclopedic butthead).
Anyway, 12 noon is also called "mid-day" because (according to our definitions of clock time), it is the actual middle of the day, when the sun is highest in the sky. But when is the highest temperature of the day recorded? Barring approaching frontal systems, it would be about 3 PM. Even though noon is the highest point of the sun, it takes that additional three hours for the ambient heat to build up before the afternoon/evening cooling cycle starts (if you live near the base of mountains or a large lake, you also contend with a diurnal wind shift to alter your temperature, but that's a whole different discussion). Likewise with our supposed "seasons," June 21 is mid-summer because, in pagan terms, it represents the middle of the growing season for most plants, but the planetary heating cycle follows that date for nearly three months (the end of July and most all of August being hottest). So that pagan assertion that June 21 is mid-summer versus the calendar assertion that it is the start of summer; one is based on growing plants and the other is based on the heat cycle. Which you choose would appear to be based on which is most important in your life... growing the best crop or cursing at your thermometer. Then, come the Autumnal Equinox, the cooling cycle begins. These dates, by the way, are set by our relative position in our orbit around the sun. Northern Winter/Southern Summer, is when Earth is closest to the sun, but it is also when the northern hemisphere is tilted farthest away from the sun (23.5 degrees) and the southern hemisphere is tilted toward the sun. This is why summers in the southern hemisphere are typically hotter than summers in the northern hemisphere. Northern summer is when Earth is farthest from the sun, but tilted toward it. The two equinoxes (Spring and Autumn) are merely the halfway points between the two extremes of summer and winter and mean, in actuality, absolutely nothing except that we are halfway between the hot-to-cold or cold-to-hot cycles. As Lannie pointed out, some places (like here) have a really short transition time from cold to hot and hot to cold and, therefore, appear to have no Spring or Autumn (Fall). Here, we just kind of jump from boiling to "damn, all the leaves turned red and fell off" then next week it is snowing. Back in Orygun, particularly in Soggy Valley (northern Willamette Valley to purists), the two transition "seasons" were real and not just a flash in the pan. Spring saw months of things turning green and growing, flowers blooming, birds chirping and mating and Autumn was months of leaves turning from green to gold, to orange, to red, before gradually drifting away instead of here --- being blown into the next county by blizzard winds.
Now, was that fun? Or just one more post of Rich's academic bullshit?
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Just taking a break. I'm gone now. (it was snowing, but the sky has cleared now)I see Rich is online, instead of working.......
Prolly snowing, sleat, HIGH winds, or some other bizarre natural disaster occuring.....
Stopped snowing?....perfect, now you can get back to work......
I seem to enjoy the latitude of 23.5 degrees.....YEAR ROUND.....I suppose someone has to stick up for astronomical solar cycles and heat lag, so it might as well be me (you know, that encyclopedic butthead).
Then, come the Autumnal Equinox, the cooling cycle begins. These dates, by the way, are set by our relative position in our orbit around the sun. Northern Winter/Southern Summer, is when Earth is closest to the sun, but it is also when the northern hemisphere is tilted farthest away from the sun (23.5 degrees) and the southern hemisphere is tilted toward the sun. This is why summers in the southern hemisphere are typically hotter than summers in the northern hemisphere. Northern summer is when Earth is farthest from the sun, but tilted toward it. The two equinoxes (Spring and Autumn) are merely the halfway points between the two extremes of summer and winter and mean, in actuality, absolutely nothing except that we are halfway between the hot-to-cold or cold-to-hot cycles. As Lannie pointed out, some places (like here) have a really short transition time from cold to hot and hot to cold and, therefore, appear to have no Spring or Autumn (Fall). Here, we just kind of jump from boiling to "damn, all the leaves turned red and fell off" then next week it is snowing. Back in Orygun, particularly in Soggy Valley (northern Willamette Valley to purists), the two transition "seasons" were real and not just a flash in the pan. Spring saw months of things turning green and growing, flowers blooming, birds chirping and mating and Autumn was months of leaves turning from green to gold, to orange, to red, before gradually drifting away instead of here --- being blown into the next county by blizzard winds.
Now, was that fun? Or just one more post of Rich's academic bullshit?
I love them, and could eat them all day longYup...and those skinny snow peas are delis.....
Me to Jimi.....they make good chinese food too.
yeah he sent it down thisa wayStopped snowing?....perfect, now you can get back to work......
ours never get that far, I eat most of them when I pick them
Never tied to grow um.....on the next project list......
Snowing in your neck of the woods?
Yes it is Dale, just starting and still light, but the guessers are saying the most will be tonight
Actually, I think that was Lannie. She was up at OH-Dark-Thirty and it was snowing and I think she said "Get the F outta here," so it did. The clouds parted, drifting eastward, and the sun came out.
Perfect, except for the extreme temperatures?.....(i assume).Actually, I think that was Lannie. She was up at OH-Dark-Thirty and it was snowing and I think she said "Get the F outta here," so it did. The clouds parted, drifting eastward, and the sun came out.
Well, the high today was only 24. No idea what it might get down to tonight, but it is fairly stable at the moment at 22.
Hmmm....might be the prerequisite to a warming trend?
SSDD, as usual. I was just taking a break and cruised through here this morning and decided to stay for a couple minutes. No biggie.Get anything accomplished today, Rich?
I understand we took you from your usual routine, by posting during working hrs......
Hope that didn't put a damper on anything....
Dug through my closet and found my blanket pants, but they have a lot of holes in them, so they are not as warm as they should be. Guess I better put them on my list for next shopping day.
Yeah. Might get all the way up to 40 in a day or two.
Blanket pants?......like a Kilt?.....
Imagine a pair of blue jeans (or, more likely, carpenter pants) that have a fleece lining inside. It's kinda like being wrapped in a blanket, then putting your jeans on over it, so everyone around here just calls them "blanket pants." The alternative to that would be Long Johns under your jeans, but the long johns are not nearly as warm.Blanket pants?......like a Kilt?.....
Oh yes, I've seen them in the past....in Canada if I'm not mistaken
Well, Canada and their blue tongues (arctic air masses) are my reason for owning these things. I never did before until I moved here.
I can understand that....especially with the blizzard (type) wind you seem to always experience
The first winter here, I wore my leftover bib ski pants, but you pretty much have to take those off every time you come in the house (way too hot) and the blanket pants are much more comfortable.
Yeah, bib ski pants wouldn't work well doing odds and ends in the house, or doing nothing actually. Prolly not to comfortable sitting in, or working in. Think the only place I sat with bibs on was in the lodge Gin-Mill.....
That's cool for this time of year in Arizona
The first few times I tried black diamond runs, I "sat" in a few snow banks for awhile...Think the only place I sat with bibs on was in the lodge Gin-Mill.....