I have a question about voltage and wattage

[Seina_Yamada]

Hi fokes I just got my kanger aero tank mega in and I'm running a duel 1.5 Ohm coil what wattage and voltage should i run it at with a 25/75 pv/vg juice?

I have a eleaf 30w battery.


Any info would be useful.

 

[OBDave]

That's a personal preference issue - given your hardware I'd try 8-10 watts to start and adjust a bit up and down until you find your personal sweet spot.

Remember - voltage is a measure of power delivered from the battery, wattage is a final measure of power when calculated against your ohm resistance...most folks use wattage as a means of determining actual power delivered after accounting for difference in coils...

 

[Seina_Yamada]

thanks for the reply I've been running at 15.5 watts at 4.9v I just wanted to know if I was doing it right.

 

[UncleRJ]

There is no right or wrong.

Just find the proper setting for that particular E-Liquid and your own personal taste and all is golden!

 

[Countrypami]

Hi fokes I just got my kanger aero tank mega in and I'm running a duel 1.5 Ohm coil what wattage and voltage should i run it at with a 25/75 pv/vg juice?

I have a eleaf 30w battery.


Any info would be useful.

If you're getting good flavor, good vapor, no burn taste... you're doing it right

 

[JOLT74]

Hi fokes I just got my kanger aero tank mega in and I'm running a duel 1.5 Ohm coil what wattage and voltage should i run it at with a 25/75 pv/vg juice?

I have a eleaf 30w battery.


Any info would be useful.

My personal suggestion which really has nothing to with this post really is I'd invest in higher VG juice henceforth, just my 2 cents tho

 

[Mike H.]

I tried 10 watts on my emow with dual coils at 2.0 ohm and it burned all the juice from my wicks in about 5 seconds..not sure how you can use 15watts but the mega must have one hell of a wicking system or you take very small hits pertaining to seconds of draw.

If you have flavor and its working for you then i suppose youre doing it right.

 

[JOLT74]

My personal suggestion which really has nothing to with this post really is I'd invest in higher VG juice henceforth, just my 2 cents tho

Edit: get the Ohms Law Calculator app, enter your Ohm level and volts and it'll give you the wattage it "should" be firing at to give you an idea of what range you can play around with

 

[BoomStick]

I think you're making the same mistake most new users of these types of devices make. You are either in variable voltage mode OR variable wattage mode. You can't use both at the same time. Both modes adjust output voltage, but do it differently. Read the instruction manual carefully, pick volt or watt mode and find the setting that you like best.

 

[Browncoat]

In my opinion, here's the best way to approach it: stick with a wattage setting.

If you run in variable voltage mode, you're always going to have to make adjustments depending on which atomizer you have attached to the device. If one tank is running 1.2 ohms, that's one voltage setting. If another tank is 0.8 ohms, that's another voltage setting. If you go by watts, you set it once and forget it. The device will adjust voltage accordingly.

 

[vape.queen]

When I had one of those I ran mine at 10.5-11

 

[VapedCrusader]

My personal suggestion which really has nothing to with this post really is I'd invest in higher VG juice henceforth, just my 2 cents tho

why would he need more VG? not everyone cares about blowing clouds with hardly any flavor

 

[JOLT74]

why would he need more VG? not everyone cares about blowing clouds with hardly any flavor

Because PG is bad for you lol plus all my high VG juices have great flavor even on a super low resistance cloud chucking build

 

[VapedCrusader]

Because PG is bad for you lol plus all my high VG juices have great flavor even on a super low resistance cloud chucking build

Here we go with the misinformation.. I'm tapping out early on this one..

 

[Midniteoyl]

I think you're making the same mistake most new users of these types of devices make. You are either in variable voltage mode OR variable wattage mode. You can't use both at the same time. Both modes adjust output voltage, but do it differently. Read the instruction manual carefully, pick volt or watt mode and find the setting that you like best.

This.. Was gonna reply the same.

 

[JOLT74]

Here we go with the misinformation.. I'm tapping out early on this one..

Oh? Sorry when a friend of mine who's a 6 figure a year making chemist tells me that I shouldn't be intaking excess amounts of PG, I headed his advice oh well I guess

 

[mdparker]

I agree with V4P3R wattage is best if ur nit sure how to adjust settings without burning a coil... It's like auto pilot vs manual... I would still keep the watts at the lowest but satisfying I have still burned less ohm ones accidental not realizing I had been sold wrong one I found 7 or 8 is as good start till u r up to what u like in a hit, my mix is also 70/30 instead of traditional 50/50 the 70/30 gives a better throat hit if that's is what u r used to being a former smoker =) hope that helps I wish I had known about watts to start when I first got a vapor

 

[mdparker]

My apologies for not saying im new here, so I hope I didn't offend anyone by joining the conversation =) I can always use useful info so nice to read up on all the info others have to offer!

 

[BoomStick]

My apologies for not saying im new here, so I hope I didn't offend anyone by joining the conversation =) I can always use useful info so nice to read up on all the info others have to offer!

Easily offend this unruly bunch? Nah. If you have something to offer then let's hear it. Welcome.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Oh? Sorry when a friend of mine who's a 6 figure a year making chemist tells me that I shouldn't be intaking excess amounts of PG, I headed his advice oh well I guess

He's incorrect..

 

[JOLT74]

He's incorrect..

No he's really not hence why he's a chemist and I'm gunna assume you're not

 

[Midniteoyl]

No he's really not hence why he's a chemist and I'm gunna assume you're not

Okie Dokie.. Have him write up a paper explaining why and post here so we can know too, please..

 

[madmonkey]

Oh? Sorry when a friend of mine who's a 6 figure a year making chemist tells me that I shouldn't be intaking excess amounts of PG, I headed his advice oh well I guess

What does his income have to do with his credibility? I had a six figure income at one time....now it's a five figure income....even though I have more experience at what I do I took a different position with less stress and responsibility....does that make me not as good at my job anymore because I make less? Income is irrelevant in that statement other than you trying to make your's sound better. And by what do you mean "intaking'? Do you mean ingesting it like in the food and drinks that it is in...because it's a common food flavor base long before it was used for e-liquid as well as many other products...or do you mean intaking threw inhalation which isn't as common of a way to consume PG? I am just curious.

Okie Dokie.. Have him write up a paper explaining why and post here so we can know too, please..

I second that motion of him publishing a paper on it and showing conclusive data on that since we need all the studies we can get and dr farsalinos has such a hard time getting funding for his own research as is. I am sure he'd love someone else to do an honest examination of that and help the cause one way or another.

 

[VapedCrusader]

No he's really not hence why he's a chemist and I'm gunna assume you're not

Yea let's see all the research he's done on PG intake (long term effects) ..go ahead and post his results so we can all be so informed like yourself.. also - let's see his results on VG intake that proves THAT is safe..

It's good to hear that with all the other scientists that are involved with vaping and researching - your chemist friend has made a breakthrough with his studies.. he could single-handedly make the new standard of vaping!

 

[BoomStick]

I shouldn't be intaking excess amounts of PG

You can say that about water. Or anything really. That's too generic of a statement to have any meaning at all. Excessive amounts of anything can be bad.

 

[JOLT74]

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[JOLT74]

He means in the form of inhalation, he simply told me that he's uncertain about if would suggest inhaling excess amounts of the stuff, it was just friendly advice from someone I trust and thought I'd pass it along but I didn't know that apparently you guys are all fucking nazi and were gunna jump down my throat

 

[vape.queen]

Hey, I'm PG sensitive...shit makes me cough incessantly. I too would be interested in seeing some info on the subject. If I can avoid PG, I def do. And not because I think its dangerous or bad for ppl. Its just that I am sensitive to it, and because it dries me out so bad I end up getting these white dehydration bumps on my tongue. I do drink plenty of water, it just doesn't seem to be enough.

 

[VapedCrusader]

He means in the form of inhalation, he simply told me that he's uncertain about if would suggest inhaling excess amounts of the stuff, it was just friendly advice from someone I trust and thought I'd pass it along but I didn't know that apparently you guys are all fucking nazi and were gunna jump down my throat

advice that you can't back up or prove.. theres enough misinformation and false claims on forums without the need to add more.. no one is being a nazi by asking you to back up your statements.. we would ask the same from anyone else

could you please explain why VG in excess amounts is okay but not PG?

 

[Dragonlord]

Lol bottom line is its better then smoking. Sucking in any chemical probably isn't the best for you.

 

[vapopat]

On the original subject of the thread id like to had my view on setting i usualy try to stay under 4.3 volt when i try a new Atty i compare thatto a mech mod mostly starting around 4 volt and going up whetever wattage this might result in that my way hope it help you on you're journey into vaping also id had that there always a learning curve with every new piece i vet

 

[MD_Boater]

Because PG is bad for you lol plus all my high VG juices have great flavor even on a super low resistance cloud chucking build

Are you aware that of the two, PG is the only one that has actually been tested for inhalation, and has been proven safe? VG is almost a complete unknown in that regard. Find a long term study on the effects of inhaling straight VG vapor, and post a link on here. I can do that for PG in about 30 seconds. The PG inhalation studies started in the late 1940s.

 

[MD_Boater]

From June 4, 1947... Never been proven wrong. That's 67+ years on the books... How old is your chemist friend, and why doesn't he know about this?

TESTS FOR THE CHRONIC TOXICITY OF PROPYLEXE GLYCOL AND TRIETHYLENE GLYCOL ON MONKEYS AND RATS BY VAPOR INHALATION AND ORAL ADMINISTRATION
O. H. ROBERTSON, CLAYTON G. LOOSLI, THEODORE T. PUCK, HENRY WISE, HENRY M. LEMON and WILLIAM LESTER, JR.

From the Department of Medicine, the Douglas Smith Foundation for Medical Research and the Bartlett Memorial Fund of the University of Chicago and the Commission on Air-Borne Infections, U. S. Army Epidemiological Board
Abstract

With a view to determining the safety of employing the vapors of propylene glycol and triethylene glycol in atmospheres inhabited by human beings, monkeys and rats were exposed continuously to high concentrations of these vapors for periods of 12 to 18 months. Equal numbers of control animals were maintained under physically similar conditions. Long term tests of the effects on ingesting triethylene glycol were also carried out. The doses administered represented 50 to 700 times the amount of glycol the animal could absorb by breathing air saturated with the glycol.

Comparative observations on the growth rates, blood counts, urine examinations, kidney function tests, fertility and general condition of the test and control groups, exhibited no essential differences between them with the exception that the rats in the glycol atmospheres exhibited consistently higher weight gains. Some drying of the skin of the monkeys' faces occurred after several months continuous exposure to a heavy fog of triethylene glycol. However, when the vapor concentration was maintained just below saturation by means of the glycostat this effect did not occur.

Examination at autopsy likewise failed to reveal any differences between the animals kept in glycolized air and those living in the ordinary room atmosphere. Extensive histological study of the lungs was made to ascertain whether the glycol had produced any generalized or local irritation. None was found. The kidneys, liver, spleen and bone marrow also were normal.

The results of these experiments in conjunction with the absence of any observed ill effects in patients exposed to both triethylene glycol and propylene glycol vapors for months at a time, provide assurance that air containing these vapors in amounts up to the saturation point is completely harmless.

 

[mdparker]

I am a 28 year veteran...Now 1 year "former" cigarette smoker...something I thought I would never be able to say... My lungs were filling with fluid and I was drowning in a slow process...very scary for I am only 41...I was ready to try anything to slow that diagnosis down....for the ones that were skeptical, I did a complete turn around in 2 months....my lung Dr was amazed he was a skeptic till a large number of his patients were suddenly getting better they had gotten wise and were changing over with results.....soo his advice....being a "lung specialist" was.... Keep doing what ur doing... You have my permission..... I will not put this practice down for the good it is proving to b doing by elimination of cigarettes.....look at the toxins in those....I'll take my chances with oils... I do agree nothing is good in excess so we all have to use our good judgement..... too many already trying to take the privileges away. I too am a medical professional by trade so I hear alot of the arguments but hey I will stand firm with if your gonna put anything in your body always read into it and then you can know from all views and make our own assessments after all we are all in this together alot of the big empires like to keep the negatives out there. =)

 

[vape.queen]

Are you aware that of the two, PG is the only one that has actually been tested for inhalation, and has been proven safe? VG is almost a complete unknown in that regard. Find a long term study on the effects of inhaling straight VG vapor, and post a link on here. I can do that for PG in about 30 seconds. The PG inhalation studies started in the late 1940s.

http://ejuiceconnoisseur.com/2013/08/15/the-truth-about-vegetable-glycerine/

 

[vape.queen]

Here's another one, but about PG: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/smoke-screen-are-e-cigarettes-safe/

 

[madmonkey]

He means in the form of inhalation, he simply told me that he's uncertain about if would suggest inhaling excess amounts of the stuff, it was just friendly advice from someone I trust and thought I'd pass it along but I didn't know that apparently you guys are all fucking nazi and were gunna jump down my throat

I wasn't going "nazi" on you...I just asked questions...I didn't know asking questions would be a "nazi" thing to do...furthermore...what's wrong with another study...we could use more of those to solidify rumors and hearsay into fact as the e-cig industry desperately need to defend ourselves constantly from governments and outside criticism

 

[JOLT74]

I wasn't going "nazi" on you...I just asked questions...I didn't know asking questions would be a "nazi" thing to do...furthermore...what's wrong with another study...we could use more of those to solidify rumors and hearsay into fact as the e-cig industry desperately need to defend ourselves constantly from governments and outside criticism

There's a differences between asking questions and discussing and jumping down my throat for posting some advice from a friend, I don't care what the fuck you put in your body honestly, I just choose high VG juice, I like them better, e-cigs are never gunna die because the same company that makes Marlboro and Parliament now makes an ecig, they have the money to fight whatever they want but regardless I'm beyond done with this discussion and all of your aggressive attitudes toward me a "fellow vaper" guess this whole post solidified why I stayed away from this forum for so long, oh well I guess I'll keep all my thoughts and opinions and news etc to myself and my local shops and friends

 

[MD_Boater]

http://ejuiceconnoisseur.com/2013/08/15/the-truth-about-vegetable-glycerine/

First time I've seen that. personally do not like above 50% VG. PG does not bother me at all, and VG leaves a coating on my throat that I can feel and occasionally have to cough up. If I stick with 50/50 or 60/40 my throat and lungs stay open and clear.

@mdparker - I too, never thought I would be able to quit smoking. I smoked for 30 years, and knew I needed to quit. I was coughing badly at night, and intermittently most of the day, every day. I never tried to quit because I hate to fail. You can't fail if you never try.My new wife asked me to quit with her. She picked the date. The night before that date I started vaping. I light a smoke on the 5th day after that, took 2 puffs, and bam!, it hit me that I now hated the taste of them. I liked vaping better. I stopped smoking on the spot right then. I had some cigarettes sitting on my desk right in front of me for several hours a day for at least 4 weeks. I ended up throwing them in the trash. It was as easy as falling off of a log. My friends congratulate me for "quitting". I tell them not to congratulate me because I didn't quit smoking, I just stopped smoking. Don't miss it at all. Today was my 470th day of not smoking. I've been vaping for 475. I breathe like I did when I was a kid. I can take deep, full breaths without hacking up a lung. I can run farther, hold my breath swimming longer, and I feel just fantastic. I've been sick one time since I quit, but everyone I know also had the same bug at the same time, so I'm not worried about that. I love seeing "Lungs - clear" on the medical chart. No wonder they (big gov) have to stop it. It will kill the tobacco industry (and the tobacco tax industry) inshort order. Sorry to the OP for jacking your thread.

 

[madmonkey]

There's a differences between asking questions and discussing and jumping down my throat for posting some advice from a friend, I don't care what the fuck you put in your body honestly, I just choose high VG juice, I like them better, e-cigs are never gunna die because the same company that makes Marlboro and Parliament now makes an ecig, they have the money to fight whatever they want but regardless I'm beyond done with this discussion and all of your aggressive attitudes toward me a "fellow vaper" guess this whole post solidified why I stayed away from this forum for so long, oh well I guess I'll keep all my thoughts and opinions and news etc to myself and my local shops and friends

actually...I was just asking questions...I did make a comment that income had nothing to do with credibility but that wasn't meant to "jump down your throat." But now I am since you so kindly decided to take it that way and jump down mine....get over yourself...I even said I would sincerely welcome your "friend" to do research on the subject as we sincerely as "fellow vapors" and the vaping community need all the research and studies we can get, whether they favor us or not....get over yourself.

 

[JOLT74]

actually...I was just asking questions...I did make a comment that income had nothing to do with credibility but that wasn't meant to "jump down your throat." But now I am since you so kindly decided to take it that way and jump down mine....get over yourself...I even said I would sincerely welcome your "friend" to do research on the subject as we sincerely as "fellow vapors" and the vaping community need all the research and studies we can get, whether they favor us or not....get over yourself.

I wasn't talking about just you specifically, you were the nicest of the group, my friend isn't an independent chemist, he works for a company doesn't have time to do an unpaid study of that magnitude, he just gave me his thoughts on the matter, it was nothing more than that, it wasn't serious, as I said I tend to stick with higher VG juice because they vape better for me than high PG juices but as I said I'm over thus conversation either way, believe and vape whatever you want I don't care

 

[MD_Boater]

Jolt - I think you took things the wrong way. Coming in here and proclaiming that PG is a big problem when most of us have read lots of studies that say otherwise tends to make your fellow vapers' tails get a little fluffy. The one thing that we do know is that PG vapor is safe. It is probably one of the least questionable aspects of vaping. Some people are sensitive to PG, and to them it is a valid concern. But as with shellfish, perfectly safe if you are not allergic to it.

I hope that I wasn't the one that offended you, but if so, I apologize. I'm here to have good, honest discussion, not to make enemies. My comment about your friend's age may have been taken the wrong way, but that study is just one of many, and very old. If he studied PG enough to warn you off of it, I would assume that he had first read some of the available studies. I have a couple of friends that make 6 figures that really don't have a lick of common sense. They say stuff that is "out there" once in a while, and I just shake my head and wonder. I know that he meant well, but I believe that he steered you wrong on this one. Nobody s trying to steer you away from VG. Max VG, etc. is very popular around here. Its not for me, but there is no right or wrong here. Vape the flavor you like at the nic strength you like with a ratio that you like on a device that you like at the power setting that you like.

 

[BoomStick]

Nobody was attacking you. Simply expressing opinions regarding a statement you made. If others opinions piss you off that bad, well, that's kinda your problem. This forum isn't full of nazi's, but it isn't full of a bunch of pussies either. We're free to speak our minds so we do.

 

[VapedCrusader]

There's a differences between asking questions and discussing and jumping down my throat for posting some advice from a friend, I don't care what the fuck you put in your body honestly, I just choose high VG juice, I like them better, e-cigs are never gunna die because the same company that makes Marlboro and Parliament now makes an ecig, they have the money to fight whatever they want but regardless I'm beyond done with this discussion and all of your aggressive attitudes toward me a "fellow vaper" guess this whole post solidified why I stayed away from this forum for so long, oh well I guess I'll keep all my thoughts and opinions and news etc to myself and my local shops and friends

Thats all well and good that you choose a higher VG juice - no one was ever 'attacking' you for your personal choice - the issue is that you are informing others to NOT vape something without the proof or research to back it up..

It's the same thing as if I told you not to drive a certain type of car because my friends a mechanic and he said those cars are not safe.. ok then - where is the proof that it's not safe? well.. i don't really have any, my friend just gave me some advice and he makes 6 figures.. um ok lol just because someone works in a field doesn't make them an expert on every aspect of said field.. If you can't handle people calling you out for your statements then I do agree that a forum might not be the best place for you - especially VU where the community does not hold back on their opinions.. either way - sorry you took so much offense

 

[JOLT74]

Thats all well and good that you choose a higher VG juice - no one was ever 'attacking' you for your personal choice - the issue is that you are informing others to NOT vape something without the proof or research to back it up..

It's the same thing as if I told you not to drive a certain type of car because my friends a mechanic and he said those cars are not safe.. ok then - where is the proof that it's not safe? well.. i don't really have any, my friend just gave me some advice and he makes 6 figures.. um ok lol just because someone works in a field doesn't make them an expert on every aspect of said field.. If you can't handle people calling you out for your statements then I do agree that a forum might not be the best place for you - especially VU where the community does not hold back on their opinions.. either way - sorry you took so much offense

You know it's funny cuz I've seen people post dumb shit and misinformation and bad advice all over the place on this forum but yet I've never felt the need to jump down someone's throat or directly yell at them and be disrespectful, I just post my input and explain it and move on, I guess you guys take a different approach, I can more than handle my own and defend myself and opinions whenever needed but I chose not to just fight with everyone and burn bridges and ruin this forum for me but I guess you guys took care of that as I said, I'll be keeping everything to myself from now on if I even stay here so thank you.

 

[VapedCrusader]

You know it's funny cuz I've seen people post dumb shit and misinformation and bad advice all over the place on this forum but yet I've never felt the need to jump down someone's throat or directly yell at them and be disrespectful, I just post my input and explain it and move on, I guess you guys take a different approach, I can more than handle my own and defend myself and opinions whenever needed but I chose not to just fight with everyone and burn bridges and ruin this forum for me but I guess you guys took care of that as I said, I'll be keeping everything to myself from now on if I even stay here so thank you.

I'd love to see where I or someone YELLED at you (not sure how this even works on a forum lol) or was disrespectful .. I'm also still waiting for the proof that PG should not be inhaled in excess and the harmful effects of doing so..

Just because you don't feel the need to call people out for their dumb comments - doesn't mean others feel the same way.. If you think people are jumping down your throat for simply asking you to back up your statements then that sounds more like a personal problem in the end..

 

[JOLT74]

I'd love to see where I or someone YELLED at you (not sure how this even works on a forum lol) or was disrespectful .. I'm also still waiting for the proof that PG should not be inhaled in excess and the harmful effects of doing so..

Just because you don't feel the need to call people out for their dumb comments - doesn't mean others feel the same way.. If you think people are jumping down your throat for simply asking you to back up your statements then that sounds more like a personal problem in the end..

I'm really not sure how many times I need to say I'm done with this conversation for you to fuck off, sorry didn't realize you're all experts and know it alls cuz you've read a couple articles, wow you're so smart, I don't give a fuck what you put in your bodies, I'll make my choices and you can make yours, now please fuck off you righteous piece of shit

 

[vape.queen]

I'm really not sure how many times I need to say I'm done with this conversation for you to fuck off, sorry didn't realize you're all experts and know it alls cuz you've read a couple articles, wow you're so smart, I don't give a fuck what you put in your bodies, I'll make my choices and you can make yours, now please fuck off you righteous piece of shit

Jolt, let it go and stop responding. If you are done, be done and stop sending replies. It will never end if YOU don't stop. Remember what we talked about? Step away from the keyboard, lol.

 

[BoomStick]

Easily offend this unruly bunch? Nah.

Well......

 

[creeperfan5236]

My apologies for not saying im new here, so I hope I didn't offend anyone by joining the conversation =) I can always use useful info so nice to read up on all the info others have to offer!

Don't worry about it, haha. Welcome! BTW 100th post. I feel fucking amazing. Not sure why, I just do.

**EDIT** Sorry that had nothing to do with the post. To throw in my two cents. I would play around with the voltage and wattage until you find your sweet spot.