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It's the "narrative" - we've been getting forcefed BS narratives for well over 3 decades.. Getting damned tired of the lies.
They cant get away from the truth so they are going to spin it into what they want.
I was disgusted to see Jai, Vic, Grimm and a couple more reviewers on a 'Minds' program...
As soon as Jai suggests "what can we do to appease/head-off/curtail" this shit, I got antsy. When Grimm promoted "regulation" and limits and "it's ok with ME to ditch 50mg", I closed the tab and I am done listening.
Every solution ends up giving up more rights/freedoms and empowering feds and state further - like... the FDfuckingA, taxes, ATF[E].. Thanks. Pass. Your kids don't matter to me in the least; they don't matter to you or you'd fight these schools, educators, and university indoctrinations - you'd PARENT. Further, YOU don't matter to me if you wish to pursue your own Darwin Award. M'Kay? Growthefuckup.
*I* made the choice to smoke. *I* made the choice to eventually handroll. *I* made the choice to give up smoking for vaping. *I* made the choice to coil & wick. *I* made the choice to mix my own ejuice... *I* spent the time and money to get a few clues. *I* pay for my desires - or do without. All you pundits and lame-ass cowards can drop-the-fuck-dead.
You wanna' Play, fine - join the NFL and take a knee. Don't pretend to "advocate" and suggest I bend over and pull the ol' cheeks wide "for the win".Yes, if you want to play you gotta pay, is not just a glib saying.
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You wanna' Play, fine - join the NFL and take a knee. Don't pretend to "advocate" and suggest I bend over and pull the ol' cheeks wide "for the win".
This is about showing-the-colors: libs gotta' push their CONTROL agenda; pretend to "save the damned children"; listen to [the mob].. I won't buy their shit on "gun control" and certainly not on vaping - they can all fribble off back to their race/gender nonsense.
*I* made the choice to smoke. *I* made the choice to eventually handroll. *I* made the choice to give up smoking for vaping. *I* made the choice to coil & wick. *I* made the choice to mix my own ejuice... *I* spent the time and money to get a few clues. *I* pay for my desires - or do without. All you pundits and lame-ass cowards can drop-the-fuck-dead.
They cant get away from the truth so they are going to spin it into what they want.
"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed." -- Adolf Hitler
I've seen so many articles,,, most interesting was one with pics of Skid Row (??) Of LA,,, TONS of product boxes etc ready for dealers to buy & fill. You have to believe the local police are involved in distribution of the tainted vapes. Hell for all we know the government arranged the whole event.
Hell for all we know the government arranged the whole event.
The majority of people on this planet are just sheep my friend. It starts in grade school where they program us to believe everything we hear.Well given Operation Northwoods, USS Maddox incident, Sinking of U.S.S Maine, ... that might be a very likely possibility. Please allow me my Discordian though. I'm not reading anything I believe, or believing anything I read. Recently had a discussion with my wife who reminded me, "if it's on the Internet it has to be true." So I am taking her advice and trying to refrain from being gull able, yes, able to be a gull.
Instead, I will dispatch a crew of Juans cleverly renamed, What, Who, When, Where, Why and How. Each of them will be tasked in finding out the details of their newly given names regarding this case. Do you recall actual tied in the wool, investigative journalism that answered these question? (rhetorical) We no longer got reporters, news cover agents who cover the news and play sound. What do they cover the news with? Oh, lies maybe?
"You can't make this news up, man!"
"Well yeah we saw how CNN filmed live in Iraq from a studio in New York using green screen and cheap props. So yes, yes you can make it up and do."
The majority of people on this planet are just sheep my friend. It starts in grade school where they program us to believe everything we hear.
Well given Operation Northwoods, USS Maddox incident, Sinking of U.S.S Maine, ... that might be a very likely possibility. Please allow me my Discordian though. I'm not reading anything I believe, or believing anything I read. Recently had a discussion with my wife who reminded me, "if it's on the Internet it has to be true." So I am taking her advice and trying to refrain from being gull able, yes, able to be a gull.
Instead, I will dispatch a crew of Juans cleverly renamed, What, Who, When, Where, Why and How. Each of them will be tasked in finding out the details of their newly given names regarding this case. Do you recall actual tied in the wool, investigative journalism that answered these question? (rhetorical) We no longer got reporters, news cover agents who cover the news and play sound. What do they cover the news with? Oh, lies maybe?
"You can't make this news up, man!"
"Well yeah we saw how CNN filmed live in Iraq from a studio in New York using green screen and cheap props. So yes, yes you can make it up and do."
I've seen so many articles,,, most interesting was one with pics of Skid Row (??) Of LA,,, TONS of product boxes etc ready for dealers to buy & fill. You have to believe the local police are involved in distribution of the tainted vapes. Hell for all we know the government arranged the whole event.
You’re on the Juan’s again? lol As long as I get to be That Juan, I’m up for it.
You aren’t the only one to suspect this.
My professed belief on the subject of “sheeple” is that everyone is one. The mistake that is encouraged by claims about them is that there exists anyone, including the people raising the cry, that they are not also the same. As if by making this distinction they raise themselves above the others. It doesn’t, at least in reality. There is no actual insulation from fallibility or additional insight granted. Frequently it seems to be used to actually draw people into an even less accurate understanding of the world around them rather than what it claims to do.
My professed belief on the subject of “sheeple” is that everyone is one. The mistake that is encouraged by claims about them is that there exists anyone, including the people raising the cry, that they are not also the same. As if by making this distinction they raise themselves above the others. It doesn’t, at least in reality. There is no actual insulation from fallibility or additional insight granted. Frequently it seems to be used to actually draw people into an even less accurate understanding of the world around them rather than what it claims to do.
conspiracy theories do this a lot.
I’ve been vaping for a long time. 2008? 2010? Anyway I am a regular member of e-cigarettefourm but it just went down and has been so for some time.
I kind of liked the extremely censored nature of the forum. Kept things on track. Or so I assumed.
Computers are complicated. I’ve “built” them which is to say I’ve bought little boxes and fit them together to form a machine that works. It’s not the same as knowing what is going on at a low level though.
Here,is a post worth paying attention to. The author, Thebombupmyassinator, is clearly a very particular, and special type of snowflake but what is not immediately evident in this post, is how exotic a creature this actually is.
I myself nearly missed it. The obvious nature of his entire post being based on a fatally flawed premise, that misaddresses context attributed to another, whom I was quoting , to myself.
This normally, is so common, as to not even warrant comment. At first glance, merely a unremarkable specimen of the garden variety fucktard, doing what they were made to do. But there is just the most subtle, fleeting hint of something else, hiding behind his smug overuse of polysyllabic s.
What will provide us the context needed to reveal what a true rara avis the Thebombupmyassinator, actually is , can be found in the body of the sum total of his published posts, here at VU. Some selections from that scholarly, and voluminous tome of, at the time of this writing, 24 posts:
Thebombupmyassinator,
And there it is. Trollery by a troll who is not even cognizant they are trolls. In the wild, this behavior naturally occurs in a particular sub genome of pompous prick usually found only in two isolated environments.
The first, in forums where highly technical issues are discussed. They live there. They viciously pounce on anybody they don't recognize. You might be having a problem updating a code repository in Debian. You post everything you have tried, your syntax etc, and this is what will always respond with the most idiotic suggestions, Or possibly rudely demanding you try the very steps you just posted, or my favorite, explaining the problem as your own fault, by neglecting to install the Great Satan's updates. Windows updates. On a Linux site.
The second place is of course ECF. Obviously. But like the Snakehead fish, we have found one that escaped his native ooze, and flopped his way, gills gasping, across the great digital expanse, to these clear blue azure waters. A random scrambling of paired proteins in viral DNA. A mutation, An abomination. Do not let it multiply. Get the bleach.
Here,is a post worth paying attention to. The author, Thebombupmyassinator, is clearly a very particular, and special type of snowflake but what is not immediately evident in this post, is how exotic a creature this actually is.
I myself nearly missed it. The obvious nature of his entire post being based on a fatally flawed premise, that misaddresses context attributed to another, whom I was quoting , to myself.
This normally, is so common, as to not even warrant comment. At first glance, merely a unremarkable specimen of the garden variety fucktard, doing what they were made to do. But there is just the most subtle, fleeting hint of something else, hiding behind his smug overuse of polysyllabic s.
What will provide us the context needed to reveal what a true rara avis the Thebombupmyassinator, actually is , can be found in the body of the sum total of his published posts, here at VU. Some selections from that scholarly, and voluminous tome of, at the time of this writing, 24 posts:
Thebombupmyassinator,
And there it is. Trollery by a troll who is not even cognizant they are trolls. In the wild, this behavior naturally occurs in a particular sub genome of pompous prick usually found only in two isolated environments.
The first, in forums where highly technical issues are discussed. They live there. They viciously pounce on anybody they don't recognize. You might be having a problem updating a code repository in Debian. You post everything you have tried, your syntax etc, and this is what will always respond with the most idiotic suggestions, Or possibly rudely demanding you try the very steps you just posted, or my favorite, explaining the problem as your own fault, by neglecting to install the Great Satan's updates. Windows updates. On a Linux site.
The second place is of course ECF. Obviously. But like the Snakehead fish, we have found one that escaped his native ooze, and flopped his way, gills gasping, across the great digital expanse, to these clear blue azure waters. A random scrambling of paired proteins in viral DNA. A mutation, An abomination. Do not let it multiply. Get the bleach.
political dogwhistles like “snowflake”
a political dogwhistle is a term designed to be missed by those not already converted to whatever cause. Very often they’re a shorthand for a more complex concept. They’re used by both parties and many less ethical religious sects.Political dogwhistles? Does one buy those at Walmart, one isle over from the Religious Riding Crops?
Any device that can access a politico's ear, without causing harm to innocents is worth a shot. (small pun there)
ah. So you did know what it is.I have an open mind, even though I'll be in the Bastinator's debt it it actually works. After all, I had serious reservations about the value of the Religious Riding Crop. Until I saw Sisters Agnes, and Grace in their latex habits. Full of sin, and in need of correction.. Best $12.99 I ever spent.
That is not your call and I beg to differ.NOBODY should vape who never smoked.
“Shoulds” are often like that. Doesn’t make em wrong. I can think of some rare cases where it might be true. Generally in some situation where the choice is smoking OR vaping, or even something worse, with no option to do none of them. It’s a narrow exception though.That is not your call and I beg to differ.
That said, I do admire your command of the language and powers of prose.
See now there's the problem. You are entitled to your opinion, but what you can think of has nothing to do with me. I'm a 55 year old adult and can think for myself thank you very much. I don't need or want you, this other fella, or some nanny state bureaucrats running my life.I can think of...
Ah. So you can correct others but no one can correct you because you’re somehow special.See now there's the problem. You are entitled to your opinion, but what you can think of has nothing to do with me. I'm a 55 year old adult and can think for myself thank you very much. I don't need or want you, this other fella, or some nanny state bureaucrats running my life.
How could you have possibly deduced this from what I said? Clearly I was referring to the realm of things like who should and should not vape. Not life in general. I'm big. I'll decide whether I should vape or not. Not you, not oneBadWolf, not some tyrannical bureaucrat, not my mama or anybody else.Ah. So you can correct others but no one can correct you because you’re somehow special.
that’s fairly simple.How could you have possibly deduced this from what I said?
yes. So?Clearly I was referring to the realm of things like who should and should not vape.
I don’t think anyone was doing that ever. Not even the first poster. I would say that doing such a thing would be so ridiculous I can’t see someone ever attempting it, but I fielded a similarly ridiculous disparagement by @OneBadWolf recently so you may have a point there. I made a statement about my personal feelings about the concept of “sheeple” and he called for my eradication because I was a mutant invasive species fish or something. I forget.Not life in general. I'm big. I'll decide whether I should vape or not.
afaik that was never done intentionally, at least by me. I can’t speak for @OneBadWolfNot you, not oneBadWolf, not some tyrannical bureaucrat, not my mama or anybody else.
I truly rejoice in the fact that multitudes have been able to use vaping as a means to escape their addiction to tobacco, but that does not give them exclusive rights to it's pleasures. I vape because I like it and I enjoy the hobby and helping others when I can, and I'm not apologizing for that.
I learned what I know on a different one but am familiar with the concept. Most everything I know about vaping is regurgitation of stuff I heard from others. A few also post here. @Rossum in particular. He strikes me as a particularly bright and knowledgeable guy. Another Ive seen here who’s statements I also probably imitate badly is @Letitia9.Further, I've been around long enough for the the people who know me here to know that I have no problem taking direction and correction from anybody. I learned much of what I know about vaping from people on this forum.
I was a smoker, but I was quit for 10 years before ecigs came along. Not by choice. Nicotine was good for my mental functioning. I quit because cigarettes had me so sick I was physically no longer able to smoke. They nearly killed me. I saw ecigs and thought “heeeeey. All the focus and anti anxiety with none of the death..”To get them off your hook, most of them didn't know for a long time that I never was a smoker.
I sort of agree. IF the problems with vaping was actually as described by BT and the CDC THEN they would have at least some reason to do what they did and are doing. They’d still be doing it badly. There would be vastly more effective ways to solve the kind of problem that was presented.@bombastinator
Listen friend, you seem a decent enough fella and even though we butted heads a bit over at ECF, I have nothing against you.
You no more owe me, or anyone else, least of all some greedy, power mongering politicians an explanation for your love of vaping, than I owe you anybody else one either. That's the point.
afaik that was never done intentionally, at least by me. I can’t speak for @OneBadWolf
I kind of liked the extremely censored nature of the forum. Kept things on track. Or so I assumed.
Can’t we fucking get along now of all times? The two forums should be exchanging ideas now, not arguing. Rant ends.
You call that a rant??
All I got from it was a rhetorical question, and a suggestion. Where's the fire? Where is the passion? Any decent rant should be forceful, emphatic, maybe even slightly unhinged.
If rants were music, they'd be fugues.
A very simple form of fugue is a round. Like "row row row" your boat. Complex rounds become Canons. In canons, you can recapitulate the theme in a different octave, key, in retrograde, or even invert it. If you are really clever, you could even invert it in retrograde.
A fugue proper is a canon, with complications. The theme may split into four pieces, and mutate until you think WTF has this to do with anything, then resolves it's self back into something coherent again.
Precisely like a fugue, a good rant starts with the introduction of the theme, or subject. The theme/s are then re stated, develop independently in various manners, and at some point, rejoin, mutually supporting each other, and the original theme.
An example. Maybe not the best example, but I think Dorien is hawt.
Did the idea of a Fugue state come from musical fugues, do you think?
It did. The term fugue is also used in aerodynamics to describe a "fuguoid" motion like porpoising, usually due to a CG issue.
Very happy to see you have a sense of humor, and don't take everything too seriously.
If you went mad for Alfred E. Newman's interpretations of Bach, you should search YouTube for the werkes of the forgotten Bach. P.D.Q Bach, the illegitimate progeny of JS Bach, and half brother to C.P.E Bach, whose works were recently discovered by Professor Peter Schickele, Coincidentally, the Professor being closely related himself to Alfred E.
The Sonata Innamorata and Pervertimento for Bagpipes, Bicycle and Balloons, S. 66 are great examples of his genius.