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OK….. This has gone to far….

@kelli didn't mean what you think she did @VaporJoes and @Melanie Motta about the whole fucking fuck thing… Was just making a comment and looking for some feedback. Wasn't meant to be offensive or anything.. Please don't continue to take it that way.
 

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I hate baiting trolls, but to come brand spankin' new into a chill forum like this and immediately attack one of the most loved regular members around here... What exactly is your goal Melanie? To secure a spot on everyone's radar as a needlessly catty bitch that can't even spell? Congrats, you've done it. Now what?

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This just keeps getting better and better.....and now look, you got Joe out of bed.

Ace, Make us some more popcorn!!

So glad we're not on ECF
Anymore
 

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Of course @VaporJoes, but here at Vaping Underground, we've made it abundantly clear that everyone is entitled to their opinion. I happen to think hers is valid. I'll go so far as to say I share it. Nowhere did she express shock, disgust, being appalled, or being controlling. She merely said it does nothing to add to any message when overused. And in many instances, it's grossly overused.

Lots of people are different and express themselves in different ways. No like? No watch? Its pretty simple
 

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Of course @VaporJoes, but here at Vaping Underground, we've made it abundantly clear that everyone is entitled to their opinion. I happen to think hers is valid. I'll go so far as to say I share it. Nowhere did she express shock, disgust, being appalled, or being controlling. She merely said it does nothing to add to any message when overused. And in many instances, it's grossly overused.

no no no tyger, don't take my side on this and risk getting on joe's shit list. my opinion means nothing. zip. zero. zilch.

this should just end now. too many people are enjoying it.
 

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I agree with @kelli's original point. It's the reason I quit watching American Horror Story fairly quickly into season 1. It was like they were excited to be able to use curse words, and therefore felt compelled to overuse them to the point that they lost any impact they might have originally had and made me question the intelligence of both the characters AND the writers who wrote the drivel.
 

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LOL!!!

This shit is cray cray yo!!!
 

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So I made a watermelon flavored juice today… Licked some of the juice off my needle tip… Now can't taste it at all… FUCK!!!!
 

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no no no tyger, don't take my side on this and risk getting on joe's shit list.....

LOL! Don't give that a second thought. @VaporJoes and I aren't afraid to disagree with each other.... sometimes vehemently! I stand by my words. A well-chosen, well-executed expletive adds emphasis when used to very lightly season one's speech, but as with any strong seasoning, it must be used with restraint and certainly not in every dish.
 

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Kelli has a right to her opinion. However, I for one will not change how I broadcast. That's about all I have to say on the matter.
 

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I get it Kelli, you would prefer folks to be someone other that what they really are because it fits your little world so much better. How 'bout you let folks just be folks... who they really are? When I watch Mod Envy (as an example of Vaper Joe) I feel they are just being themselves talking vape stuff and pimping products. I feel they would talk the same if they were in a room together and not on Nova. That's who I want to see, the real folks not the PC version that you would like to see.

That you, apparently, feel otherwise is fine but I don't want to see Joe dumbed down to a PC version of himself. That would lose all the real excitement and energy of the show. Maybe you could do a search for a Christian vaping show that would better suit your sensibilities. But don't expect giveaways like Mod Envy, because Christian vape shows would require you to tithe instead of giveaways. But at least you wouldn't have to worry about language right?
Woohoo what a strawman argument, change the subject to Christians, minus 50 points for you.

You don't get it, Kelli didn't ask for anyone to be anything other than what they are. She made an observation using her right to free speech. Seems you don't care much for free speech unless it comes from you and agrees with your opinion so you chose to try to demonize Kelli for her opinion in and are attempting to beat her down till she agrees with you. Hell beat hard enough and you might even get her to worship at your alter. Kelli stated her opinion, get over it. There is not battle of "real folks" and "PC versions", it's everyone being who they are and all Kelli was doing was being herself and you and Melline (sp?) should respect that even if you don't agree with it instead of this brow beating you're trying to give her for being herself...being her real folks self that apparently she can't be because you and Melline don't like it or agree with it. Might be a good idea to give others the room to do so even if you disagree with them. You're stifling someone else's free speech and free thought. You don't have to agree with it, just protect it like you would your own free speech.

Instead of just stating you don't agree with Kelli and stating why, the two of you look and act like Thought Police. At the least you've displayed that you don't understand free speech cuts in many directions and if you want the right to express your opinion you'd best be ready to accept someone else expressing theirs or your version of PC is all that exists.

It would have been nice if the two of you would have gotten to know Kelli before getting your panties in a bunch because you thought someone was trying to take away your right to say "fuck"...a magnanimous cause to fight for and bash someone over.

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
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LOL! Don't give that a second thought. @VaporJoes and I aren't afraid to disagree with each other.... sometimes vehemently! I stand by my words. A well-chosen, well-executed expletive adds emphasis when used to very lightly season one's speech, but as with any strong seasoning, it must be used with restraint and certainly not in every dish.

regardless, i am sorry i started this. it was done in all innocence....didn't mean for it to cause a shit storm. leaving_blue_smiley_by_Wasserkopf.gif
 

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I for one will not change how I broadcast. That's about all I have to say on the matter.
And you shouldn't it's your broadcast.
 

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regardless, i am sorry i started this. it was done in all innocence....didn't mean for it to cause a shit storm. View attachment 3369
You shouldn't be sorry, you didn't start the shit storm. Those who don't think like you are trying to make you think like them and prevent you from your right to say what you want and make you conform to their way of saying and doing things. IF this were not true, those who disagree with you would have said just said the shows format was just fine with them and left it at that instead of trying to bash you into subjection as they've tried to do. Just remember the Thought Police and Speech Censors and always out there...and NEVER stop callin'em like you see 'em and give others the same regard even when they won't give it to you.

Then again, Shit Stirrer might be my new nickname for you. What the fuck, ya know? ;):);)
 

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Kelli has a right to her opinion. However, I for one will not change how I broadcast. That's about all I have to say on the matter.

and i don't expect you to. what does it matter what i think? like i said, i apologize for ever bringing the topic up. i am no match for the hooligans around here.
 

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LOL! Don't give that a second thought. @VaporJoes and I aren't afraid to disagree with each other.... sometimes vehemently! I stand by my words. A well-chosen, well-executed expletive adds emphasis when used to very lightly season one's speech, but as with any strong seasoning, it must be used with restraint and certainly not in every dish.
Well said and I'm pleased that you and Joe aren't afraid to disagree yet still be friends, do the show and respect each others right to your own opinions. Might be a good lesson and example for some here that seem to be challenged by this.
 

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and i don't expect you to. what does it matter what i think? like i said, i apologize for ever bringing the topic up. i am no match for the hooligans around here.

I'm all for peoples opinions. Trust me, I hear them daily. However, you put yourself out there and people are going to respond.
 

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I'm all for peoples opinions. Trust me, I hear them daily. However, you put yourself out there and people are going to respond.

duly noted. i can't redeem myself so i will just pack it in.
 

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and i don't expect you to. what does it matter what i think? like i said, i apologize for ever bringing the topic up. i am no match for the hooligans around here.
It's the Brain Police, Kelli. You have to think and act like them or you're doomed I tell ya, DOOOOOMED bwahhhahhhahhhh! Ok, ok, I'll take my black cape off now.
 

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... well-chosen, well-executed expletive adds emphasis when used to very lightly season one's speech, but as with any strong seasoning, it must be used with restraint and certainly not in every dish.
Wow. If that's how you speak I can just imagine what your cooking's like :p
 

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If I hit report on Joe moving this to the basement who gets the report? Will joe punish himself? Is doing that a little like pushing the elevator button when it's already lit?
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duly noted. i can't redeem myself so i will just pack it in.
If I hit report on Joe moving this to the basement who gets the report? Will joe punish himself? Is doing that a little like pushing the elevator button when it's already lit?

Its not the basement its the most entertaining forum area! :D :D
 

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duly noted. i can't redeem myself so i will just pack it in.
You don't need redeeming. It's a sad day, I was told free speech would be practiced here, I guess not when just a couple of people can send someone packing....wait, I'll get my bags ready too.
 

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duly noted. i can't redeem myself so i will just pack it in.

You said your opinion - stand by it and defend it. Its not like my opinion has any more weight.
 

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You don't need redeeming. It's a sad day, I was told free speech would be practiced here, I guess not when just a couple of people can send someone packing....wait, I'll get my bags ready too.

Well I sincerely hope no one is packing. Free speech is a double-edged sword. It means you can speak your mind, but you also need to brush it off and carry on when someone else does in turn. Clearly, there is division on this issue, but it's only an issue. It need not divide the community
 

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You said your opinion - stand by it and defend it. Its not like my opinion has any more weight.

Actually @VaporJoes, I'm betting you outweigh her by more than 2:1 LMAO...... so I'll stand with her and even things up a bit
 

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no no no tyger, don't take my side on this and risk getting on joe's shit list. my opinion means nothing. zip. zero. zilch.

this should just end now. too many people are enjoying it.
I disagree, your opinion does mean something. Just because a few disagree with you doesn't necessarily make you wrong...and you're not in my opinion.
 

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Actually @VaporJoes, I'm betting you outweigh her by more than 2:1 LMAO...... so I'll stand with her and even things up a bit
Let's see...if Joe is smart...Tyger and Kelli against Joe...I'm betting Joes lays down and surrenders for this one...I'll slap a $50 bill that I'm right on this one. :cool:
 

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Let's see...if Joe is smart...Tyger and Kelli against Joe...I'm betting Joes lays down and surrenders for this one...I'll slap a $50 bill that I'm right on this one. :cool:

Oh my dear @Vapo! *giggles*..... clearly, you don't know @VaporJoes terribly well *tears from laughing*..... he'd debate the spots off a leopard.

And btw..... I have completely appropriated your Voltaire quote for my current status LOL.
 

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LMAO Thats what You come out with? I pitty Your children! ??? Are you really that low. My children have a better understanding on life and have more love from me then You will ever have from anyone! You want to speak of pitty, You talk about speech and the English language as if you are educated in some way, but your a fool, And I am ashamed that I played into your little game. This was one mistake I will not make again! What a waste of time, even though you did make me laugh "at You" more then a few times!!!
BULLSHIT ALERT!!!! We ALL love you Kelli and don't worry only a fool calls someone a fool. Come on guys group hug for Kelli time!
Kelli I just had a thought...is Motta someone you pissed off a while back from ecf? Melanie, you should be ashamed, now come join the group hug.:D
 

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Fuck popcorn, I could really go shithouse on some nachos...
Nachos, Nachos!?!? Kelli...lets meet m3rma1d at Grandma.s...she has NACHOS!!!!!!
 

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Oh my dear @Vapo! *giggles*..... clearly, you don't know @VaporJoes terribly well *tears from laughing*..... he'd debate the spots off a leopard.

And btw..... I have completely appropriated your Voltaire quote for my current status LOL.
Crap we were talking about debating??? Well...there goes the jello wrestling damn it !

Voltaire is all yours, he didn't even mind it when I stole it from him. :)
 

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just quoting from the language police
Melanie doesn't like sake....why am I not surprised...or maybe i'm just a little confused...or maybe i've had too much sake.
 

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This was a very good read. If any of this hurt anyones feeling, all I can say is BOOBS!!!!! No worries people. If your too thin skinned for forums or foul words then don't go to those places. Yer gonna hear them. FUCKIN BOOBS!!!!!! I don't think anyone should be attack or belittled for having a opinion or not agreeing with a opinion. Can you tell I like boobs?
 

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This was a very good read. If any of this hurt anyones feeling, all I can say is BOOBS!!!!! No worries people. If your too thin skinned for forums or foul words then don't go to those places. Yer gonna hear them. FUCKIN BOOBS!!!!!! I don't think anyone should be attack or belittled for having a opinion or not agreeing with a opinion. Can you tell I like boobs?
Here's a nice set for ya.


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