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ORCHID MODIFICATION THREAD
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Well, I haven't gotten the KF brass rings utilized yet, turns out I don't have a screw-on top to hold it together ...yet.
But, this is what I have so far in amalgamating KF parts with my Orchid v4.
That, my new DT's, and my Jinamod's Wood Fairy clone.
I was just gonna use the stock top cap, but somehow I like the frosty cap with the glass better. Hell of a lot lighter too. I got enough heavy metal in this as-is...lol
I also cleaned the build and re-wicked it with JC. Niiice.
But, this is what I have so far in amalgamating KF parts with my Orchid v4.
That, my new DT's, and my Jinamod's Wood Fairy clone.
I was just gonna use the stock top cap, but somehow I like the frosty cap with the glass better. Hell of a lot lighter too. I got enough heavy metal in this as-is...lol
I also cleaned the build and re-wicked it with JC. Niiice.
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Taver13
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finally drilled out the holes on my v2. 7/64th bit. threw in a 6 wrap on a 5/32 22g micky mouse ear build with rayon. reads out to .11 ohms. WOOOOOOOO what a tasty cloud machine my orchid has become. i should have drilled it out a long time ago
Are you building 2mm or 2.5mm coils?
Guessing 2.5mm, those are a tight fit. 2mm should give you plenty of room to fit the coils in.
Whats the ohms on this build?
0.31 ohms.
Drilled out the Orchid v6 holes. Breathes like a Billow RTA now. Went over to the local Fastenal store and they had every conceivable size steel drill bit imaginable. Removed the raised tubes/dams and drilled the top air holes out with a 2.6mm (.102) bit, and drilled out the side holes with the same bit. Plugged up the bottom afc screw holes with some high temp plumbers epoxy.
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Taver13
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yeah, its amazing what drilling out the holes can do, now its billowfied airflow with much better flavor than the billow could ever have
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Taver13
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anybody got a good build for using a 30w ipv mini? i usually run 22gauge on a mech, but i would like to throw my orchid on my mini when im out and about
Wrap one 26 or 24 gauge parallel coil, about 5-6 wraps, then carefully unwind and set them on. Orchid clouds with reminiscence of genny flavour.
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Taver13
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what do you mean by unwrap, take them apart and use them seperatly, leaving gaps?
Yep. It results in slower vaporisation of the liquid and enhanced flavor. Tricky as hell to get just right tho.
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Taver13
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cool thanks i may try that, does it come out over .5 ohms, thats the low on my ipv mini
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Taver13
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damn, its not gonna fire on my ipv mini, it oly goes down to .5, currently i have a build with 5 wraps of 22, and its nice and hot and flavorful, same idea, takes a bit to heat up and vaporizes nicely. i would really love to come up with a good setup for my ipv, ind the 1.4 range, ive been trying with 30g, but the vape just plain sucks, maybe the orchid is just destined to be on my mechs
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Taver13
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beautiful looking build
Why not try 26g or 27g and get to 0.6 ohms for your regulated mod if it can handle down to 0.5?
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Taver13
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ive tried down in that range with 26, but its just not the hot vape i want, ive gotten a nice hot vape with 30g, but the flavor seems muted and dry, might try another 26 build though, maybe i just didnt give it enough of a chance
I only vape on a mech so I don't have experience with a build like that. But if it were me I would get close to as low as the regulated allowed and try it at a high watt setting.
I guess you may not be getting all of the 50 watts if you are hitting an amp limit like 8a.
50w on a 0.6 build may be like 10a or something so even though you chose 50w you are only getting 40w... or something like that.
This is why I haven't gone regulated yet. You either need a briefcase sized box mod or a nice small box that won't power what I like to vape at.
I guess you may not be getting all of the 50 watts if you are hitting an amp limit like 8a.
50w on a 0.6 build may be like 10a or something so even though you chose 50w you are only getting 40w... or something like that.
This is why I haven't gone regulated yet. You either need a briefcase sized box mod or a nice small box that won't power what I like to vape at.
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Taver13
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i agree, i use my mechs alot more than my ipv mini, i really only got it for my lemo tank, since i get a better vape single coil on regulated, anything dual, i use my mechs. i had a sigelei 100plus for like a week, just wasnt into it. if i didnt have this lemo i love, i would never have gotten this ipv mini
Is that a 30w or 50w device? All I could find is info on the 30w.
"Since the max amp limit for 30w at .5ohms is 7.75amps"
If this info is correct, that's the issue. You're not going to get the same vape as a mech that's unleashing all of the batteries capability. If its limited to 7~8 amps, dual coil just wont fire like you want.
"Since the max amp limit for 30w at .5ohms is 7.75amps"
If this info is correct, that's the issue. You're not going to get the same vape as a mech that's unleashing all of the batteries capability. If its limited to 7~8 amps, dual coil just wont fire like you want.
I haven't tried it on an orchid yet, but I do build a couple of drippers at 1.0-1.2 to go on dna 30 clones. I use 10 wraps of 32 ga on a 3 mm rod for dual coil drippers. It doesn't compare to a sub ohm vape for amount of clouds but it does give a full flavor and decent vapor out of my Magma. I need to try this in a orchid just haven't thought of it when rebuilding one.
I totally agree about SilverPlay. It's a bona fide advancement of the Orchid concept. I'm as much tempted by it as I am not tempted by Billow. :-/
Try the 27 gauge zipper instead, actually better balanced. But it's nice to say that im running quads on my tankSerious build and craft there @Rommel.
Kayfun people tend to be blown away.
Try the 27 gauge zipper instead, actually better balanced. But it's nice to say that im running quads on my tank
Heh heh. Never done a zipper. Will have to learn a new trick, which is always fun.
I was amazed how well it performed. Great flavor, even more soaked taste than with the quads. Only thing is that the liquid creeps out the airholes because of the way it fires. But it's so minimal that i really don't find that to be an issue.Heh heh. Never done a zipper. Will have to learn a new trick, which is always fun.
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Taver13
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yep thats the one, like i said, gonna keep the ipv around for single coil builds, gonna stick with the mechs for my duals, i dont want a high watt box
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Taver13
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finally put the kayfun bell on my v2, sitting on my smpl, nice and small setup
Got to agree:
With the shortened chamber I'm getting a bona fide 3 ml capacity (measured) even with an adequate air space. Never expected the bell cap you yield that much.
Can't wait for the SMPL 18500 and 18350 clones become available. There will be no hesitation with my click finger.
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Taver13
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i wish they would come out with batteries that could handle my orchid builds, the 10.5 amp ratings on the 18350 just aint gonna cut it...Got to agree:
With the shortened chamber I'm getting a bona fide 3 ml capacity (measured) even with an adequate air space. Never expected the bell cap you yield that much.
Can't wait for the SMPL 18500 and 18350 clones become available. There will be no hesitation with my click finger.
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Taver13
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you should polish the frost of the cap, it loks sweet crystal clear
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can i get replacement screws for my build deck on my v2, the stupid allen heads are getting stripped out
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I've been exclusively dripping for the last year, but have been needing to travel more lately (and it will likely continue), and have been looking into something for more convenient use in the car. Love the look of the bell tank, and FT has some that come that way, but they appear to be all bell and no chimney, which I feel is a design flaw, and the V3 bell kit that they have appears to have no air holes drilled in the base. It looks like I can build a kit from FT parts for the same or less less than buying everything in one box, and be able to remove a couple of mm from the bottom part of the bell to retain as much volume as possible.
My question is this: Do any of the orchid pros in here think that the V6 two piece chimney fit the V3/V4 base? And with that combo, that should leave me with enough overall length to fit this bell tank kit (I like this one for the drip tip-not that I need more drip tips).
If there are any other suggestions please feel free to throw those into the pile as well.
Thanks in advance
My question is this: Do any of the orchid pros in here think that the V6 two piece chimney fit the V3/V4 base? And with that combo, that should leave me with enough overall length to fit this bell tank kit (I like this one for the drip tip-not that I need more drip tips).
If there are any other suggestions please feel free to throw those into the pile as well.
Thanks in advance
It's an odd size (between 2 and 2.5mm) and odd coarse thread pitch. Nobody here has come up with an exact independent replacement source yet. I swapped all my allen heads with spare phillips heads included with other Orchid kits. Sorry, can't help you with that.
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You know... looking at glasses repair kits... could the screws we need be in there?
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or
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The base threads for the chimney are all the same, so that's not an issue. Length is the issue.
Orchid tanks come in two basic sizes. V1-3 are short, same as Kayfun nano tanks. V4 and the new V6 Style A are long, same as regular Kayfun tanks. Likewise there are two basic chimney lengths. Kayfun Bell Cap is a nano size tank, therefore too short for that two-piece chimney, which was introduced in the V6 Style A.
If you want to use the bell cap on your Orchid, I suggest using the V3 stock chimney, which it appears you have. Otherwise modify the two-piece chimney.