ORCHID MODIFICATION THREAD

[TheWestPole]

What did you guys do to the taifun top cap to fit it to the orchid design?
You must have had to cut the post that extends down but how did you go about getting an oring in it to seal on the chimney pipe? Love the short look of that top cap.

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I make little adapter tubes out of aluminum spacers from Home Depot. One end has a recess drilled to accept the o-ring, the other is epoxied to the top cap in place of the molded in tube. Can make the adapter short or long depending on what tanks you want to fit. The ones I have made extend the reach of the chimney enough fit a full-size Taifun GT tank. Will take photos when I get back home in 10 days.

Don't know the exact sizes, but it's this kind of thing.

 

[Wabah58]

I make little adapter tubes out of aluminum spacers from Home Depot. One end has a recess drilled to accept the o-ring, the other is epoxied to the top cap in place of the molded in tube. Can make the adapter short or long depending on what tanks you want to fit. The ones I have made extend the reach of the chimney enough fit a full-size Taifun GT tank. Will take photos when I get back home in 10 days.

Don't know the exact sizes, but it's this kind of thing.

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Is it that pic that you posted at beginning of thread? The spacer on middle pic, would be at the top for the TF cap?

"Below pic is @TheWestPole picture and creation" i copied it from his earlier post.

 

[TheWestPole]

Is it that pic that you posted at beginning of thread? The spacer on middle pic, would be at the top for the TF cap?

"Below pic is @TheWestPole picture and creation" i copied it from his earlier post.

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No, that early one was just a one-off chimney to get to regular Kayfun and Taifun GT size tanks back when we were stuck with nano size. The adapter I describe above has a bigger OD than the o-ring OD. As I recall it was 5/16" but not certain.

 

[TheWestPole]

New on FT. V6 Glass (AKA Style C) with PC in place of glass.




Colors too. More colors to come, I suppose.

 

[TheWestPole]

Is it that pic that you posted at beginning of thread? The spacer on middle pic, would be at the top for the TF cap?

"Below pic is @TheWestPole picture and creation" i copied it from his earlier post.

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Oh, and thanks for the photo credit @Wabah58.

 

[Rommel]

I wonder if anyone has milled the top cap deeper? I figure i could get at least 1-1.5 ml more capacity with that and the shorter chimney mod. My Dremel clone is going to be working hard on that

 

[TheWestPole]

I wonder if anyone has milled the top cap deeper? I figure i could get at least 1-1.5 ml more capacity with that and the shorter chimney mod. My Dremel clone is going to be working hard on that

I know, right? All that solid metal and wasted space. Hate it. If I had a lathe I would have done it.

Instead, with the stock short chimney (V1-3), I just go with a Taifun GT Nano tank. Gets you a bit over 1 ml more juice than the stock tank.

 

[Rommel]

Yeah, tried to fix that... Did not work out Dremel knockoff bravely tried to do what no Dremel had done before, and suprisingly it failed. I need a workshop.

 

[sohkis]

just came home to find my v6 orchid w/glass tank & 'dna 50' waiting for me on my doorstep, wasn't expecting either until tomorrow so it's like xmas all over again!

 

[Robert B]

just came home to find my v6 orchid w/glass tank & 'dna 50' waiting for me on my doorstep, wasn't expecting either until tomorrow so it's like xmas all over again!

Damn, your's beat mine in a postal race from China

 

[sohkis]

first impressions are good, although i'm not sure the 'adjustable' airflow is quite there yet.. maybe the next revision will be better.

the hex screws are screwed in from under the bottom of the deck, but in order to have them fully open (aside from just removed) makes them 'hang' out from the bottom of the deck where it screws onto the mod. if i screw them in flush w/the underside of the build deck, you can see they impede airflow from the sides just slightly. if they are removed completely they'll just allow juice (if there was a leak) straight down onto the mod/510 connection.

*edit, here's a pic of where they sit if i back them out so that they aren't visible from the side air intake holes..

 

[fq06]

Carefull with those backing out over time... if you leave them in.
If they back out they can catch on the top of your mod and there is no way to get to them. Damage is likely to the atty or mod or both. Some mod's design doesn't care but some have features that the screws can catch on.

Maybe a little ptfe tape to keep them snug?

 

[sohkis]

Carefull with those backing out over time... if you leave them in.
If they back out they can catch on the top of your mod and there is no way to get to them. Damage is likely to the atty or mod or both. Some mod's design doesn't care but some have features that the screws can catch on.

Maybe a little ptfe tape to keep them snug?

good call, and i actually had the same thought. instead of using the pfte tape, i considered threading them in from the bottom/top b/c you can slide the allen key down through the airhole & back it into the hole. that way if it ever did back out while on the mod, it could be accessed by removing the tank & threading it back into the deck via the air hole..

kept getting pulled away from building w/work, but now that i'm clocked out it's time to wrap some coils & test her out!

i think i may just leave them out for the time being... we'll see

 

[fq06]

Yeah, that would keep you out of trouble if they walked down, that's using your noggin.
For me if it blocked any flow at all I would remove the screws, but that's just me.

Have you guys seen the new project sub ohm tank? Air holes the size of west poles hole mod. Some really nice features and it's not $135... probably comes with a hex wrench too lol. (proj. sub ohm is aethertech? )

Really nice design, I would throw money at this over the billow.
http://www.vapordna.com/Project-Sub-Ohm-SilverPlay-RTA-Atomizer-p/svpy01.htm

 

[Robert B]

Since the V6 is a design copy of the Ehpro Billow, I was hoping it would work as good as that. You can buy 3 of the V6's for the price of 1 billow.

The screws on the Billow are visible through the airholes, but still gives much better airflow than the orchid v4. I leave the screws just a little more inset than flush. Never had a problem with them backing out.

 

[Eric DeCastro]

I'm kinda disappointed that the glass isn't 22mm but I can live with it. Filled with no problem. Vapes the same as any orchid. I removed the AFC screws.

 

[Eric DeCastro]

 

[Citizen]

So how do you guys feel about an attempt at modifying a spare Orchid that I picked up (thanks Westpole good sir) and converting it to an Orchillow? An Orchillow being an Orchid with a drilled/tapped hole with a recessed set screw to cut off airflow to one of the coils therefore allowing the Orchid to run in single coil mode. I know I could just get a Billow but it just seems awesome to try.

 

[Wabah58]

I vote Modify the beotch!

 

[fq06]

V1 orchids had threads in one of the two holes so you could run a grub screw into it (from the side) closing it off to run single coil.

I haven't looked (and mine are drilled out anyway) but i would guess that is still part of the design.

 

[TheWestPole]

So how do you guys feel about an attempt at modifying a spare Orchid that I picked up (thanks Westpole good sir) and converting it to an Orchillow? An Orchillow being an Orchid with a drilled/tapped hole with a recessed set screw to cut off airflow to one of the coils therefore allowing the Orchid to run in single coil mode. I know I could just get a Billow but it just seems awesome to try.

Plugging the air is easy enough. Not sure what needs to be done with the two extra juice channels. Split the wick tails?

Same question would apply to Billow.

 

[jamieg71]

Plugging the air is easy enough. Not sure what needs to be done with the two extra juice channels. Split the wick tails?

Same question would apply to Billow.

Ask riptripper, he reviewed the billow with a single coil build.... Said it didn't leak

 

[Robert B]

I'm kinda disappointed that the glass isn't 22mm but I can live with it. Filled with no problem. Vapes the same as any orchid. I removed the AFC screws.

Just got my V6 in today. I agree, airflow about the same as the other orchids. Was really hoping the airflow would be as good as the billow, but it's not. For 12 bucks, I'll take it to a friends machine shop and enlarge the air holes and plug the bottom screw holes

 

[fq06]

I threw mine in a bench vise and just drilled them out with a regular old drill. Super simple, nothing to it and it took less than 5 minutes. 7/64th (32nd?) bit if I remember correctly, the size has been posted a few times here.

If you like low resistance and big air flow, don't wait to do this. It improved the performance in a big way.

 

[Robert B]

I threw mine in a bench vise and just drilled them out with a regular old drill. Super simple, nothing to it and it took less than 5 minutes. 7/64th (32nd?) bit if I remember correctly, the size has been posted a few times here.

If you like low resistance and big air flow, don't wait to do this. It improved the performance in a big way.

Might just try that.. Looks like the air holes on the Billow are 2.5mm and the V6 is 2.2mm. A 2.7mm bit might do the trick... edit... 2.75mm = 7/64th. Close enough

 

[fq06]

Here ya go, 7/64th or metric... either way. You can see that's as big as you can go without getting into the insulator. The billow will have air flow envy

So I took a spare V1 base and drilled out the air holes on the deck as much as possible without getting into trouble with the insulator or threads. I then drilled out the side vents to the same size. The result was a finished hole size of 2.8mm for all (using a 7/64" carbide bit).
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[Bambua]

Vapemail came from Fasttech today! Which means new Orchid toys!

V3 Black Orchid with a Kayfun Bell Cap on my IPV3, right now have a 24AWG 0.4 ohm build in it and it's ROCKIN! Great Vapor, Amazing Flavor, and holds about 3.5ml of juice which is perfect for a drive to work without needing to drip. It's been performing pretty damn consistently, no dry hits at all and no leaking. The V3 was a perfect fit for the bell cap because of it's short chimney matched up perfectly to the height of the o-ring in the cap.

 

[Robert B]

I see what you did. I was talking about drilling out the side holes since drilling out the top holes on the Orchid V6 isn't practical with the raised air holes. Thinking about it more, it probably wouldn't do any good to only drill out the side holes since the restriction would still be on the deck.

I have a V4 I can drill out.

 

[fq06]

Yeah, if you want to retain the dams you can't drill it. I don't get seeping from juice spitting off my coils down the air holes though.
The only time mine ever leaks is if i leave it on it's side and lose vacuum but any of the kayfun principal design can do that. It's weird, only every once in a great while... like the fluid must slosh just right setting it on its side (which i usually avoid) and it releases some fluid. If it stays upright, never a drip of seepage.

But yeah, if you have a v4, molest that one

 

[Robert B]

Yeah, if you want to retain the dams you can't drill it. I don't get seeping from juice spitting off my coils down the air holes though.
The only time mine ever leaks is if i leave it on it's side and lose vacuum but any of the kayfun principal design can do that. It's weird, only every once in a great while... like the fluid must slosh just right setting it on its side (which i usually avoid) and it releases some fluid. If it stays upright, never a drip of seepage.

But yeah, if you have a v4, molest that one

Molestation of the v4 will commence in the morning ! If that works out, I will molest the v6 as well.

 

[Midniteoyl]

The bottom airflow screw.. Pull them out, rub them on sandpaper/a file until they can sit flush with the bottom and not protrude into the air hole.. Cover with a small piece of packing tape to keep from backing out. Worked perfectly for me on the KFL+ v2 single and dual air flow.

 

[CaFF]

wrong post

 

[fq06]

wrong post

Well, looked good while it was there. Good food disappears fast

 

[CaFF]

Well, looked good while it was there. Good food disappears fast

Sorry man, it's early..lol

It's now in Alternate where it was intended.

 

[fq06]

Great people in that thread and some funny posts sometimes but I had to unsubscribe from the deluge of email notifications. There is a post there every 5 minutes lol. I pop in and visit manually sometimes

 

[CaFF]

Great people in that thread and some funny posts sometimes but I had to unsubscribe from the deluge of email notifications. There is a post there every 5 minutes lol. I pop in and visit manually sometimes

Oh, I don't get ANY email notifications at all. I'd bust my damn mail server if I did.

 

[jamieg71]

Great people in that thread and some funny posts sometimes but I had to unsubscribe from the deluge of email notifications. There is a post there every 5 minutes lol. I pop in and visit manually sometimes

You can turn the notifications off.

 

[fq06]

Yeah, but I leave them on as I mainly post in tech threads. If someone asked a question of me directly I want to be able to answer them and not leave them hanging. And tech related threads do not have the traffic that a well used chat thread does so it doesn't blow up my email.

Un subscribing removed the notifications from that single thread.

Thanx though

Jamieg, mines bigger than yours lol

 

[CaFF]

Yeah, but I leave them on as I mainly post in tech threads. If someone asked a question of me directly I want to be able to answer them and not leave them hanging. And tech related threads do not have the traffic that a well used chat thread does so it doesn't blow up my email.

Un subscribing removed the notifications from that single thread.

Thanx though (need a cool thumb inserted here)

Here ya go mate...

 

[Robert B]

I just pulled the raised dams/tubes out of the v6 using a pair of pliers, removed the air adjustment screws on the bottom and put a piece of tape covering the holes, and the air flow on the v6 is about the same or slightly better than the v4 now. Going to add some plumber's epoxy to cover the screw holes

 

[brianriggs]

Kayfun & 1/2 (?) There are 3 Kayfun metal sections & 2 clear ones on the Orchid base.

Where can I get 2 glass tanks that will fit the orchid v4 base and what can I get to connect them?The chimney is no problem my brother is a welder.I've drilled out the air holes already.loving thus but don't hold much juice.

 

[alex31804]

https://www.fasttech.com/p/1987602 this would be the cheapest site, but its gonna take about 2 weeks to arrive. you can use the center tank sections to connect them. The alternative to welding would be to get a avid vapor chimney base ( http://www.avidvaper.com/orchid-two-piece-chimney/ ) and use a kayfun extended chimney ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/201162718390?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT ) just throwing it out there


Edit - I linked to the full size tank however i believe you would need the nano tanks, they have those to. http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10009156/1756802-kayfun-quartz-tank-nano-kit

 

[brianriggs]

https://www.fasttech.com/p/1987602 this would be the cheapest site, but its gonna take about 2 weeks to arrive. you can use the center tank sections to connect them. The alternative to welding would be to get a avid vapor chimney base ( http://www.avidvaper.com/orchid-two-piece-chimney/ ) and use a kayfun extended chimney ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/201162718390?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT ) just throwing it out there


Edit - I linked to the full size tank however i believe you would need the nano tanks, they have those to. http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10009156/1756802-kayfun-quartz-tank-nano-kit

Thanks for that info. I'm new to the orchid.I would rather have all ss tanks but I don't know what u can get if anything that would work?any ideas?I want to put 2 tanks together and have a tall one.

 

[alex31804]

well your in luck then.. https://www.fasttech.com/products/2034902, then use one ss center section and a normal size ss section if you use the extended chimney i posted. If you weld your own chimney you can link em till your satisfied.

 

[brianriggs]

well your in luck then.. https://www.fasttech.com/products/2034902, then use one ss center section and a normal size ss section if you use the extended chimney i posted. If you weld your own chimney you can link em till your satisfied.

Thanks so much!!I've looked for a week and couldn't find that!will order and post pics!tyvm!

 

[alex31804]

Not a problem bud! Happy modding

 

[CaFF]

FT came through...nothing broken this time!!

I'm gonna bling da bish out....

 

[Rommel]

You have to try this build. Amazing extremely saturated flavor, no dry hits and no leaking. Absolutely drinks the juice, but im not going to do any other type of build from here on out on my Orchids. 27 gauge, 7 wraps around 2mm mandrel. Just figured out why these things come with the delrin insulated drip tip...

 

[alex31804]

You have to try this build. Amazing extremely saturated flavor, no dry hits and no leaking. Absolutely drinks the juice, but im not going to do any other type of build from here on out on my Orchids. 27 gauge, 7 wraps around 2mm mandrel. Just figured out why these things come with the delrin insulated drip tip...

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I was just about to comment on the post your builds thread and ask if you would post this here too lol. Awesome looking build man! Guess I know what I'm doing tonight lol

 

[Rommel]

@alex31804, hopefully you get similar results. Im absolutely in love with this. Experimenting pays off time to time.