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With RoHS compliant solder?
I can not stand people like you and I have no patience for it. Why don't you formulate your own response rather than attempting to belittle me and make fun of my response. I will no longer engage with thisWith RoHS compliant solder?
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If it has solder it ain't a mech.......With RoHS compliant solder?
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Besides the benefits NLT mentioned - which are great benefits - I simply enjoy the vape I get from a well made mech better than on a regulated mod
On a mech, the battery fires according to the quality of your coil's build and you can get a perfect vape every time
On a mech, the battery fires according to the quality of your coil's build and you can get a perfect vape every time
Just like I said.... Mechs are for Playboy bunnies.......
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It's actually quite simple
- Smoother Vape
- Quality Mech will last multiple lifetimes. He'll they'll be digging my Mechs up a 1000 years from now, wiping them off and vaping them
- They're beautiful
- I'm in charge of my own safety, not some chip assembled in a mass by someone working as slave labor
WHY:
For me I like the looks and feel of a mechanical tube over a dual battery or triple battery mod; with the regulated devices I bought there was always something I had to compromise with, mostly the quality of the device.
For instance with my Therion 166... good looking mod...I had issue with the battery door...wasn't secure as I would of hoped it to be... The firing button on mine began to fail at the 7500ish puff mark... got super mushy and didn't always fire...the finish on this same device was less than stellar.
Another instance is my VT133... Died on me after a month...sent it in and it was repaired and now serves as an Ohm Reader...Probably the only Regulated device I actually liked, no issues after being fixed, but then again it gets used only when I whip up another wire build
Hohmwrecker G2...ugly but was rock solid...compromise was the looks and hand feel.
RX Series of mods - Many had an issue with these at some time, I sold mine before I did when they were overly popular still.
Those are just to name a few...
Now with the mech tubes and parallels- series I have...
The tubes are simplistic, either all copper, brass, or a mix of Copper Stainless etc... not ornate, fire every time I want it to...I build to the vape I like which is also within the battery limits... It does exactly what I want it to without pause ( minus changing the batteries, but that goes the same for a regulated ) They look good (to me) , the mod feel is good and if I have to diagnose it for some odd reason for not working...it more than likely needs to be cleaned, which I do weekly anyway.
Benefit:
To me there really isn't a "Benefit" of using a mechanical over a regulated, to me its preference... as for which is better? To me the mechs I choose are better for they check off every aspect I want out of a device in my journey of vaping.
And that is the great thing about vaping... there is so many choices out there to fit each individuals needs and preference.
Anyhoo... hi5... Rock on -- Enjoy your journey!
For me I like the looks and feel of a mechanical tube over a dual battery or triple battery mod; with the regulated devices I bought there was always something I had to compromise with, mostly the quality of the device.
For instance with my Therion 166... good looking mod...I had issue with the battery door...wasn't secure as I would of hoped it to be... The firing button on mine began to fail at the 7500ish puff mark... got super mushy and didn't always fire...the finish on this same device was less than stellar.
Another instance is my VT133... Died on me after a month...sent it in and it was repaired and now serves as an Ohm Reader...Probably the only Regulated device I actually liked, no issues after being fixed, but then again it gets used only when I whip up another wire build
Hohmwrecker G2...ugly but was rock solid...compromise was the looks and hand feel.
RX Series of mods - Many had an issue with these at some time, I sold mine before I did when they were overly popular still.
Those are just to name a few...
Now with the mech tubes and parallels- series I have...
The tubes are simplistic, either all copper, brass, or a mix of Copper Stainless etc... not ornate, fire every time I want it to...I build to the vape I like which is also within the battery limits... It does exactly what I want it to without pause ( minus changing the batteries, but that goes the same for a regulated ) They look good (to me) , the mod feel is good and if I have to diagnose it for some odd reason for not working...it more than likely needs to be cleaned, which I do weekly anyway.
Benefit:
To me there really isn't a "Benefit" of using a mechanical over a regulated, to me its preference... as for which is better? To me the mechs I choose are better for they check off every aspect I want out of a device in my journey of vaping.
And that is the great thing about vaping... there is so many choices out there to fit each individuals needs and preference.
Anyhoo... hi5... Rock on -- Enjoy your journey!
There is a difference between un-manipulated direct DC power then that from a chip that manipulates the power. I know some say there is no difference but there is and this is also reinforced by numerous others who I let vape on my Mech's, they almost always comment on how smooth the Vape is.
It's kinda hard to explain.
There's just a subtle difference. I have something over 15 mechs, and just a couple regulated that get rarely used - because last time I got one, I realized I was spending a ton of time fiddling with it, trying to get it to vape like my mechanicals, lol.
The "pure" direct connection of battery to coil just produces a slightly different "feel".
I don't know if I'd call it "smoother," if that's the perfect word...but it's a bit different, and I prefer it.
There's just a subtle difference. I have something over 15 mechs, and just a couple regulated that get rarely used - because last time I got one, I realized I was spending a ton of time fiddling with it, trying to get it to vape like my mechanicals, lol.
The "pure" direct connection of battery to coil just produces a slightly different "feel".
I don't know if I'd call it "smoother," if that's the perfect word...but it's a bit different, and I prefer it.
Yep, "smoother" is about the closest I can come to explain. Just like when I compare Vaping on one of my SS Mech's or on one of my Pilak's (pure silver) there is a noticeable difference. I put up with the maintenance of Copper due to how they Vape for they Vape better than Brass or SS.
Anyway I'm pretty much 99.99% all Mech's these days, no chips to shit out and a good Mech well last multiple lifetimes. What's really ironic is that I used to say I'd never build because it's too much hassle and that no way in hell would never ever touch a Mech. I was perfectly happy Vaping on regulated Mod's and buying factory coils. Well Government greed and corruption changed all of that. I started building, did my research on safe use of mechanical mods and dove in so I could have a nuclear failsafe option. Come to find out I really enjoy building and just love the quality of Vape I get from Mech's. So there is a flower in the pile of shit that is our Government, they helped me find a fun, rewarding and satisfying Hobby
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Thanks, that helped a lot.
Thanks everyone! Am I understanding correctly that the Pico Squeeze is a mech? I think it is, but I may be mistaken. So far, I'm not all that impressed with it but that's mostly because of the rdta that it comes with. Hopefully, my new one will be here before too long and I'll get a better feel for it.
No, it's a regulated modThanks, that helped a lot.
Thanks everyone! Am I understanding correctly that the Pico Squeeze is a mech? I think it is, but I may be mistaken. So far, I'm not all that impressed with it but that's mostly because of the rdta that it comes with. Hopefully, my new one will be here before too long and I'll get a better feel for it.
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I used regulated almost exclusively since I started vaping 4.5 years ago.... Up until a month that ago when I inexplicably switched to barely touching a regulated mod and going to nothing but mechmods.
I did it because I had gotten wrapped up chasing the tech advances. From 15w regulated mods to 30w to 40 ni200 TC, to 200w TCR curves with yihi and evolv. Nothing has really changed outside of the UI on regulated mods. UI changes don't excite me.
The math and logic thought needed to use a mech does make my need senses stand up.
I also think mechanicals are aesthetically more appealing.
The vape is much smoother but thats more of a personal preference, some won't notice that. Another thing I like is knowing that I am the safety mechanism. It's just me, my atty and a battery. No board to break. I can fix anything electronic, but, all electronics break. It's unavoidable- it's more of a question of 'when' not 'if'. Some may last 10, 20 or even 30 years. But an archaeological dig will find a mech in a thousand years and it will still work.
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I did it because I had gotten wrapped up chasing the tech advances. From 15w regulated mods to 30w to 40 ni200 TC, to 200w TCR curves with yihi and evolv. Nothing has really changed outside of the UI on regulated mods. UI changes don't excite me.
The math and logic thought needed to use a mech does make my need senses stand up.
I also think mechanicals are aesthetically more appealing.
The vape is much smoother but thats more of a personal preference, some won't notice that. Another thing I like is knowing that I am the safety mechanism. It's just me, my atty and a battery. No board to break. I can fix anything electronic, but, all electronics break. It's unavoidable- it's more of a question of 'when' not 'if'. Some may last 10, 20 or even 30 years. But an archaeological dig will find a mech in a thousand years and it will still work.
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Oh. Nevermind then. lol
Mech mods are like dates....Thanks, that helped a lot.
Thanks everyone! Am I understanding correctly that the Pico Squeeze is a mech? I think it is, but I may be mistaken. So far, I'm not all that impressed with it but that's mostly because of the rdta that it comes with. Hopefully, my new one will be here before too long and I'll get a better feel for it.
Fine partner high class last forever and function beautiful..... You have to spend money in a fine restaurant.......
A magnet broken here and there a switch and always problems and ugly you take your date to Taco Bell.......
That's why when you see a mechanical mod for $300 or $400 is for a reason.....
You get .... for what you pay.....
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Yeah ... it's not mechanical......Dang .... I feel like a dumb ass......
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You will likely enjoy that Pico Squeeze once you get a better attie on it
I would only recommend a mech to someone who understands the dangers and understands coil building and safety precautions.
A mech performs based on the coil or coils you build..it determines how much power directly from the battery is sent to the coils..no chips..no step up or step down..just raw power.
The vape experience is different but its a short term improvement...As voltage drops from the battery so does performance...this is something a regulated can compensate for and a mech can not.
I have a little of everything and prefer regulated for a long period of time away from home at work or other adventures.
A mech mod; i tend to keep usage at home as battery life isnt all that great especially with low ohm coils.
In short its a different experience but its not for everyone.
A mech performs based on the coil or coils you build..it determines how much power directly from the battery is sent to the coils..no chips..no step up or step down..just raw power.
The vape experience is different but its a short term improvement...As voltage drops from the battery so does performance...this is something a regulated can compensate for and a mech can not.
I have a little of everything and prefer regulated for a long period of time away from home at work or other adventures.
A mech mod; i tend to keep usage at home as battery life isnt all that great especially with low ohm coils.
In short its a different experience but its not for everyone.
These are DNA mods.....Well most are.....
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These are DNA mods....
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It's the best chipset there is for a regulated mod. It's also the most accurate for Temperature Control if you are into TC.
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DNA's are one of the top tier regulated chips sold...Considered the best temperature control chip at minimum...Only downside is cost unless you can find a deal on something used.
I personally own 6 DNA mods.
1.) Sbody Macro 40w
2.) Hcigar VT133
3.) Hcigar VT75
4.) Lostvape Therion 75
5.) Lostvape Therion 75 BF (squonker)
6.) Hcigar VT75 Inbox (squonker)
The 60w and up dna mods are fully programmable so you can customize to taste using the Evolv programming..A bit involved to do.
I personally own 6 DNA mods.
1.) Sbody Macro 40w
2.) Hcigar VT133
3.) Hcigar VT75
4.) Lostvape Therion 75
5.) Lostvape Therion 75 BF (squonker)
6.) Hcigar VT75 Inbox (squonker)
The 60w and up dna mods are fully programmable so you can customize to taste using the Evolv programming..A bit involved to do.
Best explanation for those of us who love Mech's is this. It's like walking into a car dealership and they try to sell you an automatic. I don't want to point and go, I want to drive. For us mech users we don't want to just blow Clouds, we want to Vape!
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They have:
Usually 75 watts to 250 watts
Temperature Control
Lock out options to lock:
1.Your fire switch
2. Your ohms
3. Your + and - setting buttons
They measure temperature of your board and your exterior temperature
You can program it using escribe software and create power up and down curves.
They require power so most are (2) and (3) cells and Lipo batteries which are high power rated cells.
Other than that they are pretty advanced mods.
If you want a toy, if you are a computer wiz, if you are serious about Vaping and require a god vape...... Then you want a DNA mod......
I got this DNA 200 with a rechargeable 1300 mAh 3s Lipo battery here on Vaping Underground for $50 bucks....
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These are DNA mods.....
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Looks like I'm in the minority here. My mech hasn't been touched it months but this thread made me want to pull it out. I took maybe 10 hits and went back to my regulated.
My mech mod just doesn't put out the power my regulated can.
Only way to fix that, is to get into more advanced coil builds.
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My mech mod just doesn't put out the power my regulated can.
Only way to fix that, is to get into more advanced coil builds.
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Well yes and no. Vape quality changes as the battery discharges.
But mechs hit like a truck!
If so high powered regulateds hit like a bulldozer.
I do like the simplicity of a mech and the smaller size.
Not wild about the higher maintenance required on mechs.
Been vaping the same Kbox Mini mod for 2 years and all I have done is swap batteries and clean out the 510 with a q tip about once a month.
I like my Coppervapes but seem to have to do some cleaning about once a week on them.
Overall I prefer regulated mods a bit more.
I'll try another explanation..it's like flyfishing...there are tons of rods and reels that will let you throw a line farther than a flyrod...but to somebody who actually learns how to cast a flyrod worth a damn...it is the ONLY way they will fish.
A knowledgable fisherman who is a good flycaster will in most cases will catch more fish than anybody else.
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That's when you ----- change the battery!!!
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I personally prefer regulated mods. I have 2 mechs, but I keep them solely as Vapocalypse insurance, because it's true that, being low-tech, they will definitely outlast anything electronic on the market, and even if something about them "breaks," they'd be pretty easy to "fix."
But for everyday use, I don't want something I have to fiddle with constantly, and that was my experience with mechs -- no screen, so if the vape isn't quite right, about the only thing you can do is disassemble, reassemble, and hope that "fixed" it -- *usually* it does, but what a huge pain in the ass, just to vape. I scoff at the noobs who complain that vaping is "too haaaaaaaaard" compared to smoking, but seriously... I want a vape I can depend on, every hit pretty much the same as the one before, and with regulated mods, that's *mostly* what I get -- with the usual breaks for routine coil/wick maintenance of the atty.
Mechs, aside from their low-tech longevity, really are for the hobby vaper, who really gets into the fiddle-factor.
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But for everyday use, I don't want something I have to fiddle with constantly, and that was my experience with mechs -- no screen, so if the vape isn't quite right, about the only thing you can do is disassemble, reassemble, and hope that "fixed" it -- *usually* it does, but what a huge pain in the ass, just to vape. I scoff at the noobs who complain that vaping is "too haaaaaaaaard" compared to smoking, but seriously... I want a vape I can depend on, every hit pretty much the same as the one before, and with regulated mods, that's *mostly* what I get -- with the usual breaks for routine coil/wick maintenance of the atty.
Mechs, aside from their low-tech longevity, really are for the hobby vaper, who really gets into the fiddle-factor.
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I just clean mine once a week, pulse the coil and rewick, same as the few regulated mods I use.
For me, regulated mods are fussier - trying to find the sweet spot can be challenging
yes but must carry lots more batteries when using a mech vs a regulated device.
Just more trouble overall.
With a regulated I get the same vape until the battery is discharged.
Also with a mech I can discharge the battery down to unsafe levels if vaping while impaired or something.
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Well, I'll concede that part of my problem with mechs may be because I always use a Kick with them, which just adds one more thing to fiddle with -- but like Cromwell, I don't want a vape that steadily deteriorates as the battery discharges -- I experienced with my very first, the eRoll, and I fucking HATED it -- the first hit when freshly charged was awesome, and every one thereafter was slightly less awesome. Humbug to that. Given how low-powered I need to vape, being able to regulate the battery's current is really necessary for me, so it has to be a Kick, or a regulated mod -- and I really prefer the regulated mod. My own "sweet spot" is in such a narrow range -- 9.4w to 9.8w, with my usual Achilles -- it's not that hard to select whatever level currently suits (depending on the current state of the coil, the wick, and my lungs).
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Easy for me to find a sweet spot with a regulated.
Far easier than finding exactly the right coil for the sweet spot with a mech.
I do like Dual 10 wrap 3 mm 25 ga SS316L coils on my coppervape though.
Far easier than finding exactly the right coil for the sweet spot with a mech.
I do like Dual 10 wrap 3 mm 25 ga SS316L coils on my coppervape though.
Again, i like both..lol
Mech boxes:
X3 wooden (2 fasttech cheapies and one Beautiful Sonar )
X1 custom wood squonker (on order)
Cigreen bigfoot (full mechanical)
Dimitri
Tugboat V2
One soon to be assembled home made.
X2 coppervapes
X1 terminator
X1 Reo grand.
X1 Galactika Hidra (on order)
Tube mechs:
X2 stingrays
X2 caravellas
X1 Nemesis
X3 smpl
X1 GP
X2 AV Manhatten
Regulated:
Hcigar VT75
Hcigar VT75 Inbox
Hcigar VT133
Lostvape Therion 75
Lostvape Therion 75 BF
Sbody Macro DNA40
Hohm G2
Hohm Slice
Yihi SX M class
Pioneer4you D3S
Pioneer4you IPV 400
Laisimo L1
Eleaf 60w TC
Eleaf 100w (non TC)
Sigelei 50w
Sigelie 30w mini
There is more i have stashed away but this is off the top of my head as far as what i have.
All have a place within any day for me as i see fit.
Mech boxes:
X3 wooden (2 fasttech cheapies and one Beautiful Sonar )
X1 custom wood squonker (on order)
Cigreen bigfoot (full mechanical)
Dimitri
Tugboat V2
One soon to be assembled home made.
X2 coppervapes
X1 terminator
X1 Reo grand.
X1 Galactika Hidra (on order)
Tube mechs:
X2 stingrays
X2 caravellas
X1 Nemesis
X3 smpl
X1 GP
X2 AV Manhatten
Regulated:
Hcigar VT75
Hcigar VT75 Inbox
Hcigar VT133
Lostvape Therion 75
Lostvape Therion 75 BF
Sbody Macro DNA40
Hohm G2
Hohm Slice
Yihi SX M class
Pioneer4you D3S
Pioneer4you IPV 400
Laisimo L1
Eleaf 60w TC
Eleaf 100w (non TC)
Sigelei 50w
Sigelie 30w mini
There is more i have stashed away but this is off the top of my head as far as what i have.
All have a place within any day for me as i see fit.
Clearly, preference is preference.
And a lot depends on what's important to YOU, and on how you like your vape.
I find my mech squonkers the LEAST effort.
Simple coil builds, very low maintenance. Almost NO "fiddling".
I gave up tanks over fiddling - completely.
And I don't carry any extra batteries unless I'm traveling overnight - a fresh charged 18650 pretty much runs all day.
When I DO travel - which is quite a bit - I carry a little rebuild kit with all kinds of stuff: wick, wire, tools.
I've never used it. LOL. I just keep juicing up, and swap batteries whenever I think of it - like first thing in the AM, then when home from work.
And a lot depends on what's important to YOU, and on how you like your vape.
I find my mech squonkers the LEAST effort.
Simple coil builds, very low maintenance. Almost NO "fiddling".
I gave up tanks over fiddling - completely.
And I don't carry any extra batteries unless I'm traveling overnight - a fresh charged 18650 pretty much runs all day.
When I DO travel - which is quite a bit - I carry a little rebuild kit with all kinds of stuff: wick, wire, tools.
I've never used it. LOL. I just keep juicing up, and swap batteries whenever I think of it - like first thing in the AM, then when home from work.
you have 2 authentic Caravelas?
You know I really find it amussing that the same people that found satisfaction smoking a cigarette that was smashed flat in their coat pocket, a cigarette half drenched in rainwater,a cigarette as stale as a mummy, a cigarette half smoke fished out of the ashtray from the night before......suddenly have a "sweet spot" that can't deviate by more than .05 volts.
Vaping unleashes your elitism?
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I was gonna say..that's like being hit by lightening twice.
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Great read guys some really interesting views on mechs ... I've avoided them up until now mainly because when I first joined as a complete greenhorn I was scared off from using them and quite rightly so ...went away learnt a lot now just about to try my first (when it arrives) even now I'm slightly nervous lol
My questions for you guys if you'll entertain it of course is
do you prefer parralel or series if using two or more batteries?
do you tend to build for exactly the wattage you like to vape it with or just above to begin with?
Other than Q tips to clean the contacts can you use other things as well? For example proper brass cleaner, ultrasonic cleaner (throwing this one in here just to check more than anything)?
If you use complex coil types in regulated mods like I do are these perfectly acceptable using mechs or am I better off using simpler builds?
In the event of a leg coming lose in the atty how would you recognise this and react?
Do you tend to try the atty on a regulated mod for a bit to check it's stable vaping then put on the mech?
Do you still stick to batteries for the amp draw you are going to have or stick to batteries you know are well above what you'll need so there is cover in the event the reisistence changes?
On the point of resistence changing metals like stainless steel do increase when heated do you you factor this in or just calculate everything of the starting resistence?
Sorry to digress khassy
My questions for you guys if you'll entertain it of course is
do you prefer parralel or series if using two or more batteries?
do you tend to build for exactly the wattage you like to vape it with or just above to begin with?
Other than Q tips to clean the contacts can you use other things as well? For example proper brass cleaner, ultrasonic cleaner (throwing this one in here just to check more than anything)?
If you use complex coil types in regulated mods like I do are these perfectly acceptable using mechs or am I better off using simpler builds?
In the event of a leg coming lose in the atty how would you recognise this and react?
Do you tend to try the atty on a regulated mod for a bit to check it's stable vaping then put on the mech?
Do you still stick to batteries for the amp draw you are going to have or stick to batteries you know are well above what you'll need so there is cover in the event the reisistence changes?
On the point of resistence changing metals like stainless steel do increase when heated do you you factor this in or just calculate everything of the starting resistence?
Sorry to digress khassy
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This is just what I do, but others no much more on mechs with much more experience, so I'm looking forward to seeing the other responses
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More complex builds originated on mechs as a way to get high power without it being either scorching hot or very slow ramp up - they were a way of getting (mainly) big tasty clouds when regulated mods did not give a lot of power. Since then the more complex coils have more to do with photography and artwork than vaping.
Your main safety with a mech are your senses, especially touch - if the mod gets hot too fast thats red flag, if it makes an odd sound red flag, if something doesn't look right, red flag.
Batteries - whatever will safely fire your build.
SS is generally good on mechs as the slight increase in resistance will lower the power to the coil giving a longer period in the sweet spot...with a mech the coil is all as you have no adjustment, it will take a while to get a coil for the mech which does exactly what you want it to do, but once you have it down mechs are great. Great apart from constantly cleaning their switches that is. That and polishing them.....unless you like cleaning and polishing I guess