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Nevweezy

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May your luck continue to hold. My only Lost Vape product is a Triade DNA 200 and the board and device function, 100%, the finish started peeling on day 90 or so, using it Only in the house. It never left my desk even. Now I'm seriously considering sending my Triade and my old RX 200 in for paint jobs. My Vapor Shark Vapor Flask DNA 133 has never had a single issue, with finish or function. At $170 retail, a tad more pricey, and not as powerful as a 3 cell, but I love the way a VF feels in my hand.
Yeah I love my vs vf dna133 and my vs dna133. The feel of the finish is so nice.
 

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That is the 510 on all Efusions and the one you have. My 510 most certainly has a spring. Perhaps they used it on some RX200 if it is more springy. The efusion is a grommet. My Reuleaux is also more springy than my Triade and Efusions. Since it is an actual spring. These Chinese companies will use whatever parts they have anywhere. There is no method to their madness other than cutting cost. So if they had it on hand to use perhaps you lucked out on the RX200. The square one you speak of is most likely the newer garbage one people complain about getting stuck with Atty's that have a long pin. I have put everything on here. I can firmly push it to it stops and it quickly springs back. The Lost Vape ones are slower to return due to the use of a grommet.

Just wait until some hater comes in here again and says I am full of it after I provided proof. I don't care in the least. The Reuleaux has held up perfectly. This is in fact YMMV because some had a much better experience with the Triade and had a bad Reuleaux. I acknowledge that. Anything goes in these Chinese factories. Just depends if you got a good example of whatever.
I checked the image you provided of the better 510-it is the exact same one as in my RX200 and also my Wismec DNA200-so you do have the exact same 510 as everyone else, I suspect it is like mine and still has a good amount of rebound in the grommet-my one also returns quickly once pressed down.

I can find no evidence of a different 510 ever being used on different batches, and even the image you provided is the exact same 510 as in every other device. Even the wiring IS thicker from the board to the 510 connection on every device I can see.

Here is the same 510, with thicker wiring, in a RX200S https://www.planetofthevapes.co.uk/...-only/threads/rx200s-varitube-install.110496/

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, as after all, why would you make something like this up? I think you may be experiencing a strong placebo effect in that as you think the 510 is better, it seems it to you.

My Reuleaux has held up well too, I am not disputing that at all, both my DNA200 and my RX 200, and also my other joyetech devices. The main thing is though, you like the device.
 
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If you guys want a mod that doesn't have the paint issues, buy a mod that isn't painted or coated:cheers:
Example.....The Efusion DUO is Precision CNC Machined Of 6063-T6 Aluminum Body. Guess what, the painted doesn't chip or rub off, because there is no paint:idea:

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conanthewarrior

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If you guys want a mod that doesn't have the paint issues, buy a mod that isn't painted or coated:cheers:
Example.....The Efusion DUO is Precision CNC Machined Of 6063-T6 Aluminum Body. Guess what, the painted doesn't chip or rub off, because there is no paint:idea:

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My Efusion is the same colour as your middle one :), mine is not the Duo though, it is an original, Li-po powered model. The Duo would suit me better though as I prefer 18650's to Li-Po's.

You are right, it definitely doesn't rub off, although I have dropped mine, and took a very small piece out of the top of the mod, this shows a silver colour underneath
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So is the mod coated, or is the colour actually bonded to the metal in some way?
 

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My Efusion is the same colour as your middle one :), mine is not the Duo though, it is an original, Li-po powered model. The Duo would suit me better though as I prefer 18650's to Li-Po's.

You are right, it definitely doesn't rub off, although I have dropped mine, and took a very small piece out of the top of the mod, this shows a silver colour underneath
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So is the mod coated, or is the colour actually bonded to the metal in some way?

It's Anodized Aluminum, the color is bonded in the metal. You would have to drop or scratch the hell out of it, to get down to the bare Aluminum Body. This process makes it corrosion resistance and the ability to retain the dye color applied. With that being said nothing last forever:cheers:
 

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It's clear there must be QC issues for this much variation. That sucks given how much work they do put into the overall design, just not apparently in the execution during manufacturing.

My Triade is on week (4) at the repair center....... In Ohio......

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That I would find unacceptable. I don't know what type of failure you had, but even if you somehow blew the entire board, it doesn't take 4 weeks to put a new one in. Hell, if you're comfortable working with this stuff and can use a soldering iron, I bet you could do it yourself in an hour or less. I'm not happy to read that if I do have a problem down the road, it might take forever to get repaired. Fortunately, it's not my only mod, so even if it did happen, I won't be going through nic withdrawal, but I would like to see better service.

All that said, I still like my LV products, and I'm glad I picked up a Triade. I'm also really grateful I got one that must have been assembled on a Monday instead of a Friday.
 

conanthewarrior

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It's Anodized Aluminum, the color is bonded in the metal. You would have to drop or scratch the hell out of it, to get down to the bare Aluminum Body. This process makes it corrosion resistance and the ability to retain the dye color applied. With that being said nothing last forever:cheers:
Ahh, that makes sense, it hasn't scratched up or anything the whole time I have owned it (11 months) and it hasn't been kept in a sleeve or anything, but I do try to look after my mods so not exactly battered either.

The ding in it though unfortunately happened when I dropped the mod, it is a slight chip into the metal so explains why you can see the silver colour, as it is quite deep.

You are right that nothing lasts forever, but an anodized finish should last a very long time :).
 

conanthewarrior

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It's clear there must be QC issues for this much variation. That sucks given how much work they do put into the overall design, just not apparently in the execution during manufacturing.



That I would find unacceptable. I don't know what type of failure you had, but even if you somehow blew the entire board, it doesn't take 4 weeks to put a new one in. Hell, if you're comfortable working with this stuff and can use a soldering iron, I bet you could do it yourself in an hour or less. I'm not happy to read that if I do have a problem down the road, it might take forever to get repaired. Fortunately, it's not my only mod, so even if it did happen, I won't be going through nic withdrawal, but I would like to see better service.

All that said, I still like my LV products, and I'm glad I picked up a Triade. I'm also really grateful I got one that must have been assembled on a Monday instead of a Friday.
I have had two DNA200's fail on me (both hotcigs-board failures, although I think this may be down to the way hotcig had assembled them) and I live in the UK.

I had to RMA the mods to Evolv all the way to the USA, and their turnaround was very quick, both mods had its board replaced, one of them was in, repaired and sent out the same day! The long part was waiting for it to clear customs, so I agree 4 weeks is unacceptable with lost vapes repair centre.

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Wingsfan0310

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I have had two DNA200's fail on me (both hotcigs-board failures, although I think this may be down to the way hotcig had assembled them) and I live in the UK.

I had to RMA the mods to Evolv all the way to the USA, and their turnaround was very quick, one mod had its board replaced and was sent out the exact same day! The long part was waiting for it to clear customs, so I agree 4 weeks is unacceptable.
His isn't at Evolv. It's at Lost Vape's USA warranty center/shop.
 

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One thing that I do like about Evolv (among several) is that they will support their boards and have a good reputation for fixing their products. I've read nothing but good things about Evolv dealing with board issues. Then again, the repair process should be straightforward. If it's the fuse, replace it. If it's the board, replace that and return the now working mod to the consumer. Save the board and repair it (if it can be) at your leisure, and use it as a refurb part as long as you trust it. That will allow fast service time and a happy consumer.

Not much different than a computer. If your motherboard goes, are they really going to rebuild one in a Geek Squad repair center? No, they'll swap it out and return the failed board to see if it can be rebuilt and used as a refurb. That's just the nature of consumer electronics these days.
 

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This is my go everywhere Vt133. In my opinion the scuff marks just gives it some character :cheers:
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I have one like that if not worse. It's not been babied to say the least. Funny thing is I think it gives it character as well. Still works as good as the day I bought it. I have extra battery covers but I'm not changing it. :D

PS That's why I always tell people it's a tough well built mod.

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One thing that I do like about Evolv (among several) is that they will support their boards and have a good reputation for fixing their products. I've read nothing but good things about Evolv dealing with board issues. Then again, the repair process should be straightforward. If it's the fuse, replace it. If it's the board, replace that and return the now working mod to the consumer. Save the board and repair it (if it can be) at your leisure, and use it as a refurb part as long as you trust it. That will allow fast service time and a happy consumer.

Not much different than a computer. If your motherboard goes, are they really going to rebuild one in a Geek Squad repair center? No, they'll swap it out and return the failed board to see if it can be rebuilt and used as a refurb. That's just the nature of consumer electronics these days.
Evolv have been very good to me in regards to problems, the first DNA200 I got for a fantastic price from gearbest-when it arrived and was not working correctly, to fail the very next day, and gearbest not helping, I was gutted. But, Evolv was very helpful, and repaired the device for me, I just had to pay for shipping.

Then there was an error with gearbest as I had opened a paypal Dispute, so I got the money from paypal, then gearbest refunded me-during this time I had been speaking with Hotcig, and they also sent me a replacement V2 without my knowledge, it just turned up! This also failed though lol, and again Evolv was very helpful and repaired it.

After all the worry about losing a fair bit of money on a mod, as this process took about a month+ in total (I didn't speak to Evolv until near the end of this period) each device ended up costing me £27.50, which I am very lucky for.

However, my other DNA200's (The Wismec and a Lost vape Efusion) worked perfectly from the beginning, and I see hotcig now have the DR200, I feel in a way the V1 and V2 was basically a payed for Beta model.

I agree the repair process should be straightforward, as it luckily was in both my cases with Evolv directly, I understand different companies vary though, from Vaporshark which is meant to be very good, to the other end of the spectrum.
 

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I have one like that if not worse. It's not been babied to say the least. Funny thing is I think it gives it character as well. Still works as good as the day I bought it. I have extra battery covers but I'm not changing it. :D

PS That's why I always tell people it's a tough well built mod.

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Steve

That thing is junk. Give it to me:D
 

conanthewarrior

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That thing is junk. Give it to me:D
A completely different subject, but this reminds me of someone I know.

To him, the DNA200 is "shit", why would you spend that much on a mod? But if he was given one, he would immediately change his mind, and also probably say that to someone but without the implied humour-he would really mean it is junk, and to give it to him.

Many other things are also "shit" to him though, the best one was a coil question-"I have these coils that are rated for 50W, when I use them at 120W I am getting a burnt taste, any idea why?"-I told him to turn the wattage down. Nope, if it can't do 120W it again falls into the same category lol.
 

Wingsfan0310

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That thing is junk. Give it to me:D
:giggle: The best thing about that mod is I take it everywhere and don't worry about it. It's been dropped more than a few times.

Another thing I'll add is that is the tank I normally have on it. That Supreme has been dropped with it and it's still the original glass. I don't know if it's thicker than normal but more than once I thought for sure the glass was toast, but not so. I never thought the mod was toast though. That thing is tough as nails. I've got every penny I paid for that combo out of it and then some. ;)

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Steve
 

conanthewarrior

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:giggle: The best thing about that mod is I take it everywhere and don't worry about it. It's been dropped a few times.

Another thing I'll add is that is the tank I normally have on it. That Supreme has been dropped with it and it's still the original glass. I don't know if it's thicker than normal but more than once I thought for sure the glass was toast, but not so. I never thought the mod was toast though. That thing is tough as nails. I've got every penny I paid for that combo out of it and then some. ;)

Cheers,
Steve
It is nice to have a good mod that you can carry around and not be too worried about :).

I may have to look into a supreme myself, as I can be butter fingered- I got a Gemini / RX combo for my birthday, and went to show my Mum the setup, and dropped just the tank onto the kitchen carpet. The glass broke immediately, luckily it come with a spare or I would of had to wait for a replacement to arrive.

This does make me fancy a VT133 too though-I only hear good things about it, and knowing it is also tough is a good thing.
 

Wingsfan0310

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It is nice to have a good mod that you can carry around and not be too worried about :).

I may have to look into a supreme myself, as I can be butter fingered- I got a Gemini / RX combo for my birthday, and went to show my Mum the setup, and dropped just the tank onto the kitchen carpet. The glass broke immediately, luckily it come with a spare or I would of had to wait for a replacement to arrive.

This does make me fancy a VT133 too though-I only hear good things about it, and knowing it is also tough is a good thing.
If you look at that picture it's the authentic Aromamizer Supreme Blue Glass. It's been used so much it's hard to see any of the Blue anymore but it works great.

I won't change anything on that combo even though I have ~20 different spare glass pieces (Red, Blue, Black and extra clear). I also have extra battery covers. Until something breaks, I'm not changing it. :D

Cheers,
Steve
 

MannyScoot

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If you look at that picture it's the authentic Aromamizer Supreme Blue Glass. It's been used so much it's hard to see any of the Blue anymore but it works great.

I won't change anything on that combo even though I have ~20 different spare glass pieces (Red, Blue, Black and extra clear). I also have extra battery covers. Until something breaks, I'm not changing it. :D

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Steve
As long as it works.... Ham it....

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I honestly had reason to think it was originally different. If I was wrong is it like any harm was done? I do not take kindly to the monkey. However I am guessing you did not mean that as racist or have knowledge of my being an African American. That is still stupid dude. Try to be a little more mature.

Anyways all of that is moot. I had rewired the mod and used the Varitube V2 pin. Yes, it fits and manny can back me up on that. It is now a completely custom mod. Both inside and out. I really like it so that is all that matters to me. I did not mean to distribute misinformation but what I said was to the best of my knowledge. If I made a mistake I admit i am not perfect. There is no reason to attack me personally. Either of you. Of course it is not going to break my heart so go knock yourselves out. To be honest I sort of asked for retaliation. By coming in here and alienating folks. So go for it. You can even call me the N-word. This is the internet and I hardly give a shit. I would kindly ask however that I made a mistake and let's put the subject to rest.

I have been vaping over 7 years. I have owned over 100 mods in my time. Some of them were in fact ten grand customs. So I think i can judge quality. Overall I maintain the Wismec holds up better than the LV. Of course YMMV. It could easily be the other way around. It is not the products Per Se. It boils down to crap Chinese QC.

As for anodizing. Type II on those mods will wear through. That is why the Military Specs HAIII or "hard anodizing" unfortunately it only comes in a very ugly brownish black and has a Rough texture. It is in fact that texture that protects it. By not having the entire surface exposed at any given angle. The best is Ceracoat. You are only going to get that stuff on bespoke mods that cost $$$. Overall the Type II is a better choice than powder or ion coatings.

I enjoy my wismec I have customized. That is my prerogative. I really did not mean to come in here and talk shit or outright lie. I thought my statements to be true. I may very well be mistaken. How about if we just move on..

Manny, I want to order the VT because I prefer DNA but the Hohm G2 is built much better. It does not allow as much customization. Preheat is a big deal to me. I really don't know. Even though you cannot adjust the preheat it is said to be the hardest fitting mod. There is also the Yihi G+ coming. I do not wish to keep buying crap mods. I just want to buy good ones. It is not a financial issue but I hate wasting money. That is exactly why the over $200 Triade I purchased thoroughly pissed me off. I got mad in public and that too was immature. I apologize. Just so mad personally because it looks so nice.
I doubt 25MM fits on the VT LOL. Surely you are joking?

I am just going to throw out a question here even though it is OT. What is bar none the best mod that can actually be obtained? I hate waiting on Facebook for a year while a guy builds them. Rather get production but is there any one that really stands out?

Guys, I mean no hard feelings. I made a mistake. I was a dick about it too just because I was upset. That was wrong of me to do and I admit it.
 

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My favorite rtas are 30mm that's why I bought the Triade....... They fit nice.... So my Triade is going on week #5 at the repair center and they won't even answer my emails...... I do enjoy the DNA200 it Vapes good on Temperature Control...... So I'm using my custom RX but would love a new DNA200 because the Triade broke my heart and I hear good things about the VT133......

The ohm wrecker g2 seems good but I don't want a box..... I can't handle a mod that's a square box...... That's why I went for the Triade and at $160 I expected a top mod.....

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Don't take offense at comments here, if I'm called a spik, or a Mexican or a wetback, this doesn't bother me..... I'm here just to talk about Vaping and my experiences......

I'm a 52 year old adult and not here to deal with children, so don't take it personal, and make offensive comments because some individuals here that's what they wish for..... Insulting and calling names and talking shit, so I just call it water under the bridge and move on..... Cool Gorgon.....

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The best dna I have heard about from many people who own it is the vaporized nomads boss 3000. It's a custom built dna200 but usually only takes under 2 weeks to get shipped to you. It's ceracoat and can have any image laser etched on it. Check them out at vaporizednomads.com. I'm planning on ordering one soon. Just trying to figure out what to get put on it.
 

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Boss is Lipo and anodized. Similar boxes are less money. Unless the art is a big deal to you. I guess the VT13 might be the closest thing. I would hope for better and do not mind to spend the money.

Manny, so a few days shipping it was 5+ weeks. Complete bullshit if you ask me.
 

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The boss has a 1850mah lipo and anodized. We're can I get a custom box with a lifetime warranty for cheaper? ??
 

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Boss is Lipo and anodized. Similar boxes are less money. Unless the art is a big deal to you. I guess the VT13 might be the closest thing. I would hope for better and do not mind to spend the money.

Manny, so a few days shipping it was 5+ weeks. Complete bullshit if you ask me.
I will have it by next Friday so Like thay said .... 4 to 6 weeks, they know how bad they suck. ......

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The boss has a 1850mah lipo and anodized. We're can I get a custom box with a lifetime warranty for cheaper? ??
If you want a bad ass Lipo...... Sorry you have to go Mad Modder maxamps 2800 mah DNA250 Lipo..... That's a Lipo box......

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The 2800mah is the one I could afford one day.....
 
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Dude mad modder makes. 4500 mah lipos and a 6s Lipo with 22 volts...... They are the place..... Buy the mod and wait till is finished .... Check them out.... They don't Fuck around.....

http://www.madmodderstudios.com/store/p19/4500mah_DNA250.html

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Damn that thing is a monster. I know mad moder and vaporized nomads did a colaberation on a brass ceracoated mod for advocacy. Mad moder has some insane boxes..
 

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Damn that thing is a monster. I know mad moder and vaporized nomads did a colaberation on a brass ceracoated mod for advocacy. Mad moder has some insane boxes..
I have gone to a couple of big events .... You know with $1,500 top cloud chasers..... And the winners were using Mad MODDER boxes...... I thought it was unfair to the tube guys........

I think now they have several classes..... Those boxes are made not for show offs, but serious mother fuckers....... A 6s Lipo from charging to using..... It's a dangerous piece of equipment......

The question is are you ready for it ?

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I have gone to a couple of big events .... You know with $1,500 top cloud chasers..... And the winners were using Mad MODDER boxes...... I thought it was unfair to the tube guys........

I think now they have several classes..... Those boxes are made not for show offs, but serious mothers fuckers....... A 6s Lipo from charging to using..... It's a dangerous piece of equipment......

The question is ate you ready for it ?

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That's a little too much for me..lol I am looking at getting a custom dna200 or dna250 made. Probably just a 1850mah 3s or around there.
 

MannyScoot

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That's a little too much for me..lol I am looking at getting a custom dna200 or dna250 made. Probably just a 1850mah 3s or around there.
Its amazing how some of us Vape...... And others are at a crazy level..... Everyone is looking for better and best and even better.....

All I know is stay away from 4 things......

#1 A guy directing traffic wearing a hospital gown.
#2 A hairy girlfriend whose arm hair covers her wrist watch.
#3 A pimp who drives a Toyota Corolla....
#4 *Cigarettes...........
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