not about JH thread, its just a whine about whatever you want and stupid ass picts thread

[anavidfan]

Again, show me exactly where I policed you, especially you in particular. I posted that the thread needed less acrimony (and more cowbell).... I don't recall mentioning your name. Then I posted the Let It Go video (a low blow I admit, but still not aimed at any party in particular)...... so I'm really wondering why you're being so defensive.

My posts were clear, by design. No ulterior motives, favorites, or hidden agendas. Please don't attempt to read more into what I said than exactly what I said. Thanks.

Sorry if I offended you, not my intent. But there seem to be so many more threads where people are going for the jugular, saying all sorts of horrible things to each other and its goes on and on.

Just seems odd that I post a silly thread like this and people are coming out and saying I should let it go? Im trying, Ive made light of some of the insulting things Jai has been slinging around. Ive tried to engage in an adult way but he gets all riled up and starts with the name calling , not just here but all around.

People are coming on to call us stupid and childish, so be it.

Yes I called him mean, rude, crude and dim, but how does that compare to the horrible things he resorts to?

I just got a PM saying that I should give up cause hes a force to be reckoned with, I know that, I know I will never win. That no matter what I say, I come off as a stupid old bitch. So , Im childish, I seem to be dealing with a very childish person that cant convey anything other than school yard actions.

 

[anavidfan]

Again, show me exactly where I policed you, especially you in particular. I posted that the thread needed less acrimony (and more cowbell).... I don't recall mentioning your name. Then I posted the Let It Go video (a low blow I admit, but still not aimed at any party in particular)...... so I'm really wondering why you're being so defensive.

My posts were clear, by design. No ulterior motives, favorites, or hidden agendas. Please don't attempt to read more into what I said than exactly what I said. Thanks.

Youre kinda doing it right now, what are we , Jai or I, doing that is so BAD. We are bantering, throwing stupid words at each other, what is wrong with that? Like I said there are much more offensive things on this thread that are left to fester...

Im calling him a mean poop mouth and he , well he's Jai and he is who he is....

 

[anavidfan]

Tyger she is good at this, ill let you figure this one out. she either mentally handicapped or just dumb. I cant deal iwth her insinuations. And you GUYS always "protecting me" it has nothing to do with the shit people are doing. She needs to shut it down. Shut it DOWN old lady

Are you calling Tyger metally handicapped or me? I think her nor I are. Now you are resorting to calling us , or just me a retard? OOOOH thats a bad word these days.....

 

[TygerTyger]

Sorry if I offended you, not my intent. But there seem to be so many more threads where people are going for the jugular, saying all sorts of horrible things to each other and its goes on and on.

Just seems odd that I post a silly thread like this and people are coming out and saying I should let it go? Im trying, Ive made light of some of the insulting things Jai has been slinging around. Ive tried to engage in an adult way but he gets all riled up and starts with the name calling , not just here but all around.

People are coming on to call us stupid and childish, so be it.

Yes I called him mean, rude, crude and dim, but how does that compare to the horrible things he resorts to?

I just got a PM saying that I should give up cause hes a force to be reckoned with, I know that, I know I will never win. That no matter what I say, I come off as a stupid old bitch. So , Im childish, I seem to be dealing with a very childish person that cant convey anything other than school yard actions.

1. You didn't offend me.

2. I suggested EVERYONE should let it go, not you specifically.

3. There's this marvelous thing called the "ignore function" that makes members you find disagreeable simply disappear from your forum experience...... to invoke it, simply click on the member's name, and select "Ignore".....

 

[anavidfan]

Thank you, Ive been trying so hard to figure out the ignore function. Sorry , Im old dont get these new fangled computery things.

Its hard to figure out whos saying what to who , again, probably cause im and old bitch.

I think this is kinda fun and at least entertaining to such forum sophisticates.

IF this is offensive to everyone and no one visits or at least watches, I will let it go.

Like Jai said, this is doing him good, its getting him more famous and followers. So its is doing someone good.

If everyone ignores us, then so be it. It will be just he and I calling each other names.

 

[celticluvr]

1. You didn't offend me.

2. I suggested EVERYONE should let it go, not you specifically.

3. There's this marvelous thing called the "ignore function" that makes members you find disagreeable simply disappear from your forum experience...... to invoke it, simply click on the member's name, and select "Ignore".....

I tried to tell her that in a pm... I'm not eloquent enough to get my point across... Its something I have to work on.

And I did not say "he's a force to be reckoned with" I was stating that you should be the bigger person and walk away (ignore) him. He's of the type that you have to ignore or he will always try and have the last word... Sorry Jai but from what I've seen its true.

I was just trying to help.....




I'll go back to minding my own business now. For what its worth though... I don't exactly know everything that went on.... I was in Florida during all this.

 

[anavidfan]

I tried to tell her that in a pm... I'm not eloquent enough to get my point across... Its something I have to work on.

And I did not say "he's a force to be reckoned with" I was stating that you should be the bigger person and walk away (ignore) him. He's of the type that you have to ignore or he will always try and have the last word... Sorry Jai but from what I've seen its true.

I was just trying to help.....




I'll go back to minding my own business now. For what its worth though... I don't exactly know everything that went on.... I was in Florida during all this.

I know you were sweetie, You have always been great with me and every one else here .... I consider you a friend.

But what is puzzling me is why is this silliness between Jai and I become such an entity?

WHy has this thread cause so many to be so worrisome. Compared to the really rude and crude things being flung around this forum, this little show is really quite tame.

Really, I know Im being childish by coming here to avenge someone I considered a good buddy, and poke at the giant by my lonesome for shits and giggles.

Why is our dispute so threatening to others?

Sorry celtic, didnt particularly mean you said that, it seems to be the general attitude of everyone. If I dont mind being pushed around and insulted than why is it bothering everyone.?

 

[celticluvr]

I know you were sweetie, You have always been great with me and every one else here .... I consider you a friend.

But what is puzzling me is why is this silliness between Jai and I become such an entity?

WHy has this thread cause so many to be so worrisome. Compared to the really rude and crude things being flung around this forum, this little show is really quite tame.

Really, I know Im being childish by coming here to avenge someone I considered a good buddy, and poke at the giant by my lonesome for shits and giggles.

Why is our dispute so threatening to others?

Sorry celtic, didnt particularly mean you said that, it seems to be the general attitude of everyone. If I dont mind being pushed around and insulted than why is it bothering everyone.?

Well It wasn't such a big deal till him being "protected" by VU was brought up and I've seen it a few times thru the forum. I think that might be whats bothering somefolks... Personally I just didn't want you to get hurt or anything.

 

[anavidfan]

See now Im really hurt, and broken.. I really thought that like in all the stupid movies about underdogs being admired and supported would be entertaining in real life. I guess like all things in life its not true.....

I respect you ( Celtic) and your opinion. If you want me to let it go, so be it. I will go back to the shadows where Im more comfortable and keep things to myself.

I was wrong, I apologize to all the moderators that felt I was offending. I thought I was having fun entertaining some with this silliness, I was wrong.

What hurts more than anything is seeing a person I admired for being so strong and full of life and dedication be stomped down by many she thought were friends. No more needs to be said.

Jai, you are the KING , you won, you are the best of the best of the best ...... I hope you at least found some amusement in my pokes.

Fare thee well.....

 

[anavidfan]

oh btw, Jai, yes you.....

YOU are a big ole poopy mouthed , rude , crude and unimaginative bully.

Now we cant have any fun anymore..... I hope you still get all the "good press" and continue your FB and Ecig forum fame and glory as the man who would not be silenced.....

 

[Jai Haze]

he will always try and have the last word... Sorry Jai but from what I've seen its true.

no its fine. You have your opinion no need to say sorry. Thats not talking shit and calling me names. No issues. IM NOT ON ECIG forum, dont knowhow to tell you this. Why do you finish off with your king blah blah and then make another comment post below it. You truly do no know when to shut it down. I made it very clear and didnt post anything but then here it goes AGAIN, BOOM BOOM BOOM. The reason I am so protected.....well thats because I am hidden gem

 

[ej1024]

Damn did you all even sleep


VAPE ON

 

[Shark Vape]

This forum's speech policy has changed dramatically in the last few months.
It used to be 'free speech' here; now management will ban a member for "un-adult-like" posting.

In other words, there is no longer a limit or definition of a ban-able action.
The clear rule line has been removed, now it's management discretion.
That means you may not even know if your post violated the "Adult Rule" until after you've been banned.

With that said, you haze, have driven @roxynoodle off of VU.
From my point of view, VU members lost big in that trade.
I'd take one Roxy to 10 of you any day of the week, but that's jmo.

Sadly, I have no idea whether saying that is adult or not... or why the Mud Pit exists anymore.

Tagging @TygerTyger

 

[Jai Haze]

With that said, you haze, have driven @roxynoodle off of VU.

this is on her. Shes a grown woman. It was pointed out in there that FROM SMOKIE saying it was silly dont quote those words, for her to leave because one person doesnt like her tank. Period.

 

[anavidfan]

This forum's speech policy has changed dramatically in the last few months.
It used to be 'free speech' here; now management will ban a member for "un-adult-like" posting.

In other words, there is no longer a limit or definition of a ban-able action.
The clear rule line has been removed, now it's management discretion.
That means you may not even know if your post violated the "Adult Rule" until after you've been banned.

With that said, you haze, have driven @roxynoodle off of VU.
From my point of view, VU members lost big in that trade.
I'd take one Roxy to 10 of you any day of the week, but that's jmo.

Sadly, I have no idea whether saying that is adult or not... or why the Mud Pit exists anymore.

Tagging @TygerTyger

 

[John Q Public]

This forum's speech policy has changed dramatically in the last few months.
now management will ban a member for "un-adult-like" posting.



Tagging @TygerTyger

If that were true, John Q would have been insta-banned.

 

[Adam Paseman]

Seriously, the moment I saw this thread title I knew it would do nothing to make Jai look bad, but instead make anybody "playing along" look childish.

I don't get it. What's the big deal? He didn't believe the merlin tank was amazing? Ok.....i guess the designer of the tank is a forum member....but really? It's just his opinion of it based off his first experience with it. People then resorted to belittling him-and then when he defended himself-(perhaps inappropriate words were used)-suddenly he's the asshole?

Oh-and just to prove his point-it made me watch his video, and honestly, I liked his style and humor. I subscribed.


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[Jai Haze]

Seriously, the moment I saw this thread title I knew it would do nothing to make Jai look bad, but instead make anybody "playing along" look childish.

I don't get it. What's the big deal? He didn't believe the merlin tank was amazing? Ok.....i guess the designer of the tank is a forum member....but really? It's just his opinion of it based off his first experience with it. People then resorted to belittling him-and then when he defended himself-(perhaps inappropriate words were used)-suddenly he's the asshole?

Oh-and just to prove his point-it made me watch his video, and honestly, I liked his style and humor. I subscribed.


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See Adam, this is my point. Thanks for subscribing buddy, always good to see supporters. When you get a bad review as a business you look at it and then improve from what they had a bad experience with. Sometimes you cant do shit to make them happy. Thats how it goes. You cant please everyone. And you did in fact help me prove a point, like the guy on the first or 2nd page said OOOO Reviewers are leecher and whatever the hell else and bad publicity is not good publicity. Nope......not true. There is a reason why its a saying. Its not a big deal, just this chick Roxy has so many supporters because she tries to make people feel sorry for her. Go read her posts....youll see what I am saying.

I even said in the MERLIN thread that ill leave it alone... here check it out http://vapingunderground.com/threads/the-merlin-rta-by-augvape-and-roxy.234109/page-35#post-1185422 and yet again HERE COMES the fucken trolls. I clearly said ill leave it alone! CLEARLY. But they just kept on going and going and going and going and going...you get the point. Attacking my personal looks because I didnt like her tank...again I said it wasnt bad. Spotted for truth - go to 17:34 and beyond

notice the time and listen to what I say. Clearly say its not leaking and IT WAS my fault. Even talk about how I wicked it wrong, then they attack my builds saying i suck and im bad? Really? https://www.instagram.com/vape.l1fe/ not saying im the best but I am pretty damn good. Again my builds suck, my wicking sucks and I suck - QFT by them. It is what it is. Let her keep posting in this and bumping it. Give me subscribers all day long. Even if I gained JUST 1 from this thread, dont I win? Isnt that what life is; a game? We either win and become successful and good parents or good people or we lose and are pieces of shit.

Not saying judge me off of the things I give away, or the things I do for people. That does put some charachter in me. Some. Notice not all. I dont know how else to respond, she wants to be cordial but honestly she could post this and say it wasnt a deliberate attack on me; notice her first post? Trying to mock me. Yeah I am here and I aint going no where.

 

[Shark Vape]

Give me subscribers all day long. Even if I gained JUST 1 from this thread, dont I win?

Well umm no actually.
According to @VaporJoe, your subscriber list is completely devoid of internet value. Nobody cares.
Google's monetary evaluation metric (your 'value') is clicks.

 

[Jai Haze]

Well umm no actually.
According to @VaporJoe, your subscriber list is completely devoid of internet value. Nobody cares.
Google's monetary evaluation metric (your 'value') is clicks.

disagree, I do agree its all about the VIEWS of how long they watch a video vs just watch 2 seconds; this is viewable in the back end. A subscriber is going to "CLICK" a video hence why they subscribed, so ifso facto its a win. If people didnt care about subscribers, or it didnt mean anything then they wouldnt show it on YouTube. Sort of like how they devalued the Video Responses. No one used it and no one cared about it.

 

[Jai Haze]

https://youtube.com/creatoracademy/page/lesson/subscriber-advantage#yt-creators-strategies-2 (note the watch time bit) and then right on here (https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/3uur4r/which_is_more_important_for_a_successful_channel/) all about that watch time

 

[anavidfan]

Well umm no actually.
According to @VaporJoe, your subscriber list is completely devoid of internet value. Nobody cares.
Google's monetary evaluation metric (your 'value') is clicks.

 

[celticluvr]

In the interest of fair play... I will watch your entire video on the Merlin review and go back and read exactly what happened in the merlin thread to determine my exact opinion. @Jai Haze

 

[Jai Haze]

In the interest of fair play... I will watch your entire video on the Merlin review and go back and read exactly what happened in the merlin thread to determine my exact opinion. @Jai Haze

thank you! see that means something to me. People heard the whole first 5 minutes and passed judgement. I clear it all up on the end.

 

[TygerTyger]

The clear rule line has been removed, now it's management discretion.

What do you mean "now"?...... it always was management discretion. The scant rules are guidelines for expected conduct.... common sense fills out the rest of what we expect. Sadly, common sense ain't so common. Ready to let it go, or want to be banned? It's entirely up to you.

 

[celticluvr]

In the interest of fair play... I will watch your entire video on the Merlin review and go back and read exactly what happened in the merlin thread to determine my exact opinion. @Jai Haze

So apparently I saw a double post then double post was gone..... Internet is a little wonky today.

 

[ej1024]

Move on take a VAPE
Geeezzz


VAPE ON

 

[anavidfan]

 

[Shark Vape]

Ready to let it go, or want to be banned?

Why are you threatening me now? ...again?
Is the Mud Pit a forbidden place now too?
Was I "un-adult"? whatever that means...
Did I speak badly of you?... anywhere, ever?

Tyger, the rules have changed, at least the enforcement has.
You have never banned a member for "Be adult" that I am aware of.
Annnd you have changed. You're moderating the Mud Pit! And you keep moving the rules line!

It looks like you're just trying to provoke a response so you have an excuse to ban.
You won't get that from me. It's your house.
I'm just trying to understand the rules so i know what I am now permitted to say.

 

[AlbyKortoona]

make some bank? Are you kidding me? GO watch my videos (or since you dont like me let me help educate you), I BUY the products an I do not get paid to do reviews. They ask people for reviewers, so lemme get this right when someone critiques something from a company they are leeches? WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK are you talking about? So every reviewer of cameras, macbooks, tvs, food AND JUST about everything are leeches? Critiquing food in YOUR words "Critics/reviewers of what other people actually produce are just leeches" is leeching....right cause I didnt buy it or they didnt ask for their opinion. Im done with you...next

Wtf, you have stated several times that the haters just make money for you. You're done with me? Well you were good for a laugh anyways...

 

[SerenityM]

Actually he says haters make me famous... Not make me money.

 

[SerenityM]

Why are you threatening me now? ...again?
Is the Mud Pit a forbidden place now too?
Was I "un-adult"? whatever that means...
Did I speak badly of you?... anywhere, ever?

Tyger, the rules have changed, at least the enforcement has.
You have never banned a member for "Be adult" that I am aware of.
Annnd you have changed. You're moderating the Mud Pit! And you keep moving the rules line!

It looks like you're just trying to provoke a response so you have an excuse to ban.
You won't get that from me. It's your house.
I'm just trying to understand the rules so i know what I am now permitted to say.

I'm new to the forum although Ive read threads from here without an account. But, common sense tells me that mentioning how you don't agree with the people that run this forum over and over is probably not the best thing to do. I don't know you, but seems like your stirring poop. Just an opinion but sticking to the thread topic without throwing the moderators in the mix would help in not getting banned.

 

[anavidfan]

Why are you threatening me now? ...again?
Is the Mud Pit a forbidden place now too?
Was I "un-adult"? whatever that means...
Did I speak badly of you?... anywhere, ever?

Tyger, the rules have changed, at least the enforcement has.
You have never banned a member for "Be adult" that I am aware of.
Annnd you have changed. You're moderating the Mud Pit! And you keep moving the rules line!

It looks like you're just trying to provoke a response so you have an excuse to ban.
You won't get that from me. It's your house.
I'm just trying to understand the rules so i know what I am now permitted to say.

Have you read any of the previous posts in this thread?

For some reason this thread, EVEN IN the mud pit seems to be "special" .

This is a thread I made and it was made for my own silly reasons, but people told me to "let it go" so I kinda am. Im staying in the shadows watching it play out.
This thread was for a cause.

 

[Mythical_OD]

Still goin strong eh? Damn drama queens lol

Come on tho, Roxy left, get over it. Yea she was nice and knowledgeable, and she designed arguably the best RTA ever made with the Boreas, but come on, if youre gonna design something and have it put out on the public market you gotta be ready to have a few people completely trash it. It even happened with the Boreas (her white knight army took to that cause). And now it happened with the Merlin (and surprise, her white knight army took up the cause). Its gonna happen when you put something out there for the public. To let yourself be run off a forum because of one negative voice is kinda childish.

Personally I didnt much care for the Merlin all that much either. Not that it was a bad tank. It was designed well, built well, and was a quality piece of gear, but the airflow was just too tight to appeal to me. If the airflow was much greater then it would have been another winner imo. But it is what it is, its suppose to be a tight draw MTL tank, and because of that, I didnt much like it all that much.

 

[anavidfan]

Still goin strong eh? Damn drama queens lol

Come on tho, Roxy left, get over it. Yea she was nice and knowledgeable, and she designed arguably the best RTA ever made with the Boreas, but come on, if youre gonna design something and have it put out on the public market you gotta be ready to have a few people completely trash it. It even happened with the Boreas (her white knight army took to that cause). And now it happened with the Merlin (and surprise, her white knight army took up the cause). Its gonna happen when you put something out there for the public. To let yourself be run off a forum because of one negative voice is kinda childish.

Personally I didnt much care for the Merlin all that much either. Not that it was a bad tank. It was designed well, built well, and was a quality piece of gear, but the airflow was just too tight to appeal to me. If the airflow was much greater then it would have been another winner imo. But it is what it is, its suppose to be a tight draw MTL tank, and because of that, I didnt much like it all that much.

Yes, If Im a drama queen so be it.... After all Im the OP, the topic was mine to choose, childish or not its here.

What is really perplexing is "the Topic" has morphed into much more.

Is it freedom of speech?
A silly person that feel the need to avenge in some way?
People that are questioning the authorities in some way?
Rudeness? Whiners? Bullies, PC vs Mac ?
People calling someone a bigot? ( that came out of left field)

Again, WHY has this thread become the object of many to "WATCH"

 

[SerenityM]

Have you read any of the previous posts in this thread?

For some reason this thread, EVEN IN the mud pit seems to be "special" .

This is a thread I made and it was made for my own silly reasons, but people told me to "let it go" so I kinda am. Im staying in the shadows watching it play out.
This thread was for a cause.

 

[TygerTyger]

Why are you threatening me now? ...again?
Is the Mud Pit a forbidden place now too?
Was I "un-adult"? whatever that means...
Did I speak badly of you?... anywhere, ever?

Tyger, the rules have changed, at least the enforcement has.
You have never banned a member for "Be adult" that I am aware of.
Annnd you have changed. You're moderating the Mud Pit! And you keep moving the rules line!

It looks like you're just trying to provoke a response so you have an excuse to ban.
You won't get that from me. It's your house.
I'm just trying to understand the rules so i know what I am now permitted to say.

Neither the rules nor I have changed. From day one, if a member was so disruptive that it became a problem, we removed them. I simply asked you to agree to stop harassing staff. You have chosen not to reply, and that's your prerogative.

If you stop your long-standing crusade against certain staff members and go back to being a reasonable member, you and I have no issue...... and I don't believe that requires any further discussion.

 

[Shark Vape]

I'm new to the forum although Ive read threads from here without an account. But, common sense tells me that mentioning how you don't agree with the people that run this forum over and over is probably not the best thing to do. I don't know you, but seems like your stirring poop. Just an opinion but sticking to the thread topic without throwing the moderators in the mix would help in not getting banned.

I'll have a coffee, thx...

 

[pulsevape]

WOW, this thread needs a touch of levity..so in the spirit of levity.....

You all need to come together,to find common cause in a single common enemy let me be that enemy.
1) If you want to avoid rude people go back to ECF...if you start a thread in the mudpitt you are by definition inviting rude beahvior that is why it is here.most of us came here to escape the chicken shit iron fisted facisim masquerading as courtesy...if you want a safe space get the fuck outta here.
2) Why the fuck do the mods give a shit what goes on in the mud pitt? it is an obscure corner of the site which nobody bothers with and does not disrupt the board.what is the point of a mudpitt where you are forced to stay clean.
3)It's a fucking chinomizer for christsakes..they're all cheap ass chinese shit desgined for people with the pallete of a horse's ass, it's not like they are proper attys like a genny or a dripper.
4) jai haze is a chubby duouchebag that reviews crap gear,who cares what he thinks..let him blow nar nar clouds of captian crunch e-juice all day long, big deal.he has such small pathetic goals let him have them.

I sincerely hope this small note seves the common good of the community....there I think I have offended everyone now come together....and charge.

 

[ej1024]

Oh shit
Here we go!


VAPE ON

 

[Whiskey]

1) If you want to avoid rude people go back to ECF...if you start a thread in the mudpitt you are by definition inviting rude beahvior that is why it is here.most of us came here to escape the chicken shit iron fisted facisim masquerading as courtesy...if you want a safe space get the fuck outta here.
Good point, its been said before
2) Why the fuck do the mods give a shit what goes on in the mud pitt? it is an obscure corner of the site which nobody bothers with and does not disrupt the board.what is the point of a mudpitt where you are forced to stay clean.
Because we watch ALL parts of the forum, this section is not "Beyond" our forum rules
3)It's a fucking chinomizer for christsakes..they're all cheap ass chinese shit desgined for people with the pallete of a horse's ass, it's not like they are proper attys like a genny or a dripper.
Can't contribute here, don't use any of them
4) jai haze is a chubby duouchebag that reviews crap gear,who cares what he thinks..let him blow nar nar clouds of captian crunch e-juice all day long, big deal.he has such small pathetic goals let him have them.
And is a VU member and has the same posting privileges as any other member of VU
I sincerely hope this small note seves the common good of the community....there I think I have offended everyone now come together....and charge.

Not offended at all, takes a bit more than that to get me cranked up

 

[pulsevape]

Not offended at all, takes a bit more than that to get me cranked up

how bout...those jeans make you butt look fat.

 

[ej1024]

Hahahaha


VAPE ON

 

[Whiskey]

how bout...those jeans make you butt look fat.

Damned it, REPORTED

 

[John Q Public]

I want a thread devoted to me.

 

[jimbodaddy74]

how bout...those jeans make you butt look fat.

 

[Shark Vape]

2) Why the fuck do the mods give a shit what goes on in the mud pitt?
it is an obscure corner of the site which nobody bothers with and does not disrupt the board.
what is the point of a mudpitt where you are forced to stay clean.

POST OF THE YEAR.

Forum hasn't changed tho...
Consider your "adult-ness" under review by our panel of unbiased judges...

 

[xdragonx917]

Just delete entire post

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[ej1024]

I think all this Jay haze shit is stupid. I think all the people talking to him are stupid and I think he's stupid. You guys (and I mean you too haze) wrecked merlin thread with your garbage when I'm just trying to read about build specs and oring charts. Now pages and pages of middle school drama that I can get from my kids. Thanks for trashing up the place. Why don't you guys get over it and grow up.

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Do you really have to use the word GAY?
You grow up!


VAPE ON

 

[xdragonx917]

Who cares?

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