Video works - wow...what a piece of work!
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If I click on the video it takes me to some weird Facebookish type help page that is not too helpful, lol
Works on my end too
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Video works - wow...what a piece of work!
View attachment 52226
If I click on the video it takes me to some weird Facebookish type help page that is not too helpful, lol
Works on my end too
Only one instance was George Carlin...
WOW and WTF!
What a piece GUTTER-TRASH!
Her parents must be so very proud of her.
Seems to me that CLASSWIFE has a new competitor!
Im thinking maybe you have to be part of the Mod Envy group on facebook?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ModEnvy/
yeah they didnt want click thur playing you have to go to YT directly
yeah they didnt want click thur playing you have to go to YT directly
I know it's been three years, and mistakes were made. I've more or less left the whole thing alone until someone did a stream on my site recently calling me out.
So, I responded:
If I haven't had the chance to apologize to you for the incident, then please accept my apology now. You don't have to and I don't expect you to. If you got hate and insults to throw at me, I can take it. I just want to move on.
Mark
yes and no most vapers moved on and Mark is what brought it back.Yeah and on Boob Tube you can't even post a comment so I guess it is just 3 year old Drama??
yes and no most vapers moved on and Mark is what brought it back.
my only issue was with his lack of actions back then if trail trash what ever was on and he didn't know yet it was his site he could have shut them down that moment but he didn't.
to the channels he claims of blackmail,threatening or whatever else he could have updated his TOS and did the same but he didn't.
he walked away and did what he did.
it is his site and he could have addressed every issue he claims where is reasons for walking away
and he was dating someone at that time and that person was walking all over others with protection.
i have no issue with anyone being a bitch to others and what not that was not Mark's fault but what is was his lack of actions and ultimately his whole "i was innocent claim" i won't debate but all it takes for evil to win is for good men to do nothing and that's what he did with all those issues he claims where not his fault yet it was his site and he had the power to do something and walked away and allowed the environment to become toxic so we the bigger people went elsewhere
would i go back if things were better who knows with YT the way it is and the other alternatives but i suspect the issues i had and have with his site won't change. most would have left it with i was younger i made mistakes but his video is more of a "it was not my fault dont blame me type of thing."
i will close this to Mark if you are reading it. it was / is your site you are the person with the power to have changed it and didn't so it was your fault so im glad to have at least seen your ready to move on but i think we did 3 years ago. in fact i bet some people didnt even know about it until you came here to bring it back up.
Apologies, I forgot embedding was disabled. I fixed that.
lordmage, I understand others may have already moved on, and you're right. I should have handled it differently. I handled it the polar opposite way it should have been handled. I figured since the person in the video called me out on it that I should finally lay out my side of the story. I wasn't blameless in how I handled the aftermath, but I was accused of setting up the scenario beforehand. I can be really oblivious and that was a really oblivious moment for me. GG, the woman smoking on that stream, legitimately wanted to quit smoking. She knew about Vapers.tv and, apparently, her and a few others decided to do a stream over there. Cancer sticks and all. Why she decided it a good idea to smoke on camera? I don't know. Looking back at the situation I cringe really hard.
Yeah, I seriously screwed up handling that incident. But as I said in the video, I was already angry about what was happening on Vapers.tv as it was so I just basically said F it and did all the wrong things.
Again, I'm not looking for anything out of this other than to get my side out there and have some personal closure with it. I said some things to and about Joe that I do regret and I do apologize for. Even though I'm not a vaper and I have never smoked, I still feel vaping is a healthier alternative to cancer sticks. The issues surrounding vaping most recently has bothered me because in all the years I've been a part of the vaping community, even as a non vaper, the sudden attack and smear campaign on vaping sincerely pisses me off.
TL;DR: I handled things badly, someone called me out on a live stream about it recently despite it being 3 year old drama