The Official Alien Coil Thread

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  1. KingPin!

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    Definitely gonna try this next time I build meg thank you :hug:
     
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    Ive got a few more tricks, maybe some day Ill have a quiet house and can actually make a youtube video worth watching....

    Great job Meg!
     
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  3. mojo21

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    Here I go on my fralien . I might just have a chance this time . Fingers crossed. [​IMG][​IMG]

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  4. gopher_byrd

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    Thanks for the vid Meg! And thanks to @raymo2u for the procedure that inspired this!
     
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    Skimmed though and didn't see an answer. I'm looking for the ratio/stretch tension for the funky flip-flop alien wrap. Tried a number of times and can't seem to make it work.
     
  6. sparkuk

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    Trial and error I'm afraid. I wasted quite a bit getting it right. It depends on the gauge/number of cores, and gauge of wrap, though I found a rough guide was to stretch the decore (wrap) so that the "zig-zag" as you look down on it is just under 90 degrees apart, but even then you have to keep a steady tension on it as you're doing the alien wrap. (I believe I used 3x28 core and 36 wrap)
    To be honest I personally don't see much of a difference in flavour over a simple fused clapton to warrant all the extra p1ssing about, so I tend to just do those mainly now. Though I am going to have a go at a staggered fused clapton at some point to see what that's like, which does look somewhat easier to achieve than aliens.
     
  7. CrazyChef v2.0

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    As a rule of thumb, the space between the "zig-zags" should be roughly the same as the width of your cores. There are exceptions to this, but it's a good starting point for reference.
     
  8. WPMac

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    Thank You!! I am assuming the ratios remain the same as a standard alien? On second thought probably not. If you have to stretch that far it must be a bigger decore?
     
  9. CrazyChef v2.0

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    Yup. Your decore needs to be roughly 1/3 the size of your cores.
     
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    Thank you! I typically like a slightly bigger decore to get a more pronounced "s".

    And here's a second question for the masses. Anyone have any success doing aliens on inconsistently sized wire ... i.e. 4 ply .3 ribbon. I kinda figured if I decored for the .4 and then understretched a smidge it would kind of work itself out. But that is NOT the case :cry:
     
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  11. Pegleg Meg

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    Mohawk speed challenge!

     
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    Sweet!! :D I'll try to sit down today and put a set together. But I'm a slow poke. Don't don't expect to much from me
     
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    Damn it takes me long to fuse a clapton. Need to up my game.

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  14. Pegleg Meg

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    I don't know why I even did it, I don't think Anyone else is even going to try. I did have fun, though, that's the main thing right

    Also got better at mohawks lmao (se the accidental aliens in there?)

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  15. KingPin!

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    Just got home and watched the vid meg very impressive!!!

    Not one swear word too :vino: I’d have to allow 5 minutes of swearing at it at least
     
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    Mohawk Speed Challenge!! - 9:45 on 2nd attempt. First one I overstretched the decore and ended up with some plain old aliens. If you just want to see the end result you can pick up at about 10 mins when I put the macro lens on.
    That was faster than I thought. I figured at least 15 min. Especially considering I made to much decore and had to fiddle quite a bit a number of times. I'm actually a little impressed with myself. I could probably get it down pretty quick with some practice ... Though I will still probably be a snail on the drill most of the time. I enjoy taking my time.
    Oh ... side note ... 2nd set of mohawks I've ever made :teehee: Made the first set pretty intricate (posted somewhere in my IG). Was super excited about the artistic result. Well wasn't super impressed with the vape. So Never really had the urge to make more.

    "This video is still processing ... this video is still processing ..." It's been processing for like 2 hours. It's a 10 min video ... wtf ... whatever. Y'all can watch it when youtube decides to finish their crap.
     
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  17. Pegleg Meg

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    I'm quite impressed - mine was about 5 or 6 attempts - from forgetting where my macro lens was the first time, to accidental (clean!) Aliens, the garage door opening and grumbling off-camera by my dad, the entire time I was coiling, to your basic "oh shit these arent clean at All" to almost finishing when the wrap slides off the second coil...lol

    Edit: then the one time my decore wouldn't slide off no matter what and I just wadded up all the wire in disgust lmao
     
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  18. VAPEROXX

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    I can do Mohawks pretty quickly (they are my specialty), but I don't do videos lol. So I'll have to bow out or you'll hafta take my word for it. I do them full speed on a 3/8 12v drill. Start to finish in under 5 minutes. Stitched mohawks were a little slower (around 8 minutes-ish)[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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  19. Pegleg Meg

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    Coiling was my slowest part; do you coil with pliers? I was having to push the wraps together as I coiled because I was using my bare fingers (bad me)

    And of course I'll take your word! Just means I gotta try again to beat your time :D
     
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  20. VAPEROXX

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    I coil around a 3mm screwdriver with bare hands. There's a scientific method for wrapping Mohawks though.

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    Yah my son, who was working on school, came by for a sec in my video. And the last 2 wraps on the last coil were pretty gross. But, It's hard for me to sit for more than 10 mins or so at a time during the day. I'm a stay at home day with 2 young kids and we home school. So, after 2 attempts it was either postpone the video for an undetermined amount of time, or just call it as good as it was going to get for a speed challenge ;)

    And OMFG ... it's still processing?!?!? I uploaded that thing not long after you posted yours.
     
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  22. Spudeye

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    How much stretch to give your decor to stop 5 core alien collapsing
     
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    Outside of trial and error ... I'm not sure there's a good way to put it into words. Typical collapse comes from either under stretching the decore, or not having good even tension, between the chuck and the swivels, on all of your cores. If you find your collapsing your cores often I would check those two things first.
    Your other options is to go slow and use some nylon pliers (or at the very least some toothless pliers) and pinch the cores flat as soon as you see a collapse starting to happen.



    AND WTF! My damn video still isn't loading. screw youtube man ...

    Tried again and it worked. FINALLY
     
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    You will like my next one anti clockwise or clockwise dose one make it easier than the other
     
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    That is completely subjective. I personally like doing my decore clockwise and my aliens counter (anti). But, I've seen a number of people who like it the other way.
     
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    Cracked it was holding the decore to tight
     
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    SWEET! Congratulations!!!
     
  28. Spudeye

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    Tanks man cant believe how well I'm wrapping these coils now doing a set in less than 10 mins and with no wire holds
     
  29. VAPEROXX

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    Congratulations!

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  30. jasonandsarah

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    Not gonna post a pic because its not an alien but I haven't built a coil for half a year, until yesterday. Got a little nervous thinking maybe I was out of practice but it was almost easier. I did a set of framed staples with 2X26 Kanthal 6x .4ribbon Kanthal outer wrap 36gni80 and they came out good. Only took me like 10 mins as well.

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