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OK my original point was NOT about what SOME consider collectible. I dont get the whole collectible mod/atty thing period. But i completely acknowledge and accept that some add intrinsic value to certain rare, unusual, hand made items regardless of the industry. SO people selling that stuff I dont even look at those posts because that is not what I care about. To use the car analogy, thats like looking to buy a car that gets you to and from work and shopping the vintage/collectible car dealer. And to me thats a whole different world. And really has nothing to do with what I was ranting on about. SO if an apology is needed to anyone who is having a thread disrupted over my price rant, then I apologize whole heartedly and sincerely.
Now as to my own opinion on if someone should publicly post in someones WTS thread you can get shit cheaper. ALot of us including myself on rare occasion have done so. IT usually leads no where. Sometimes it does. Since everyone keeps bringing up free market.... this is where it bites one in the ass. TRUE FREE MARKET would allow people to make such posts even if they were links back to themselves or an affiliated business.
I personally think the vendor rules covers when some asshat goes in to WTS threads and posts hey I can sell it to you cheaper. The rules SAY DONT DO IT.
If your not a vendor, and you want to do it, i think its a case by case basis. Lets say for example @Vash, and yes I specifying vash cuz most already know he is the person I was bitching about earlier and I want to clear the air about something. He sells and buys a ton of stuff here. I would actually pay him a tiny bit more then just any joe schmoe. BECAUSE HE HAS a GOOD REPUTATION. And yea i think selling a used 3li for the same as a new one is BULLSHIT. But he listed a bunch of other stuff in the same thread and all the other stuff was a good price. SO if you want to go and be the price nazi on him a PM would be very appropriate.
Now one could argue with this thread I practically called him out publicly on it. And maybe that was a bit of a dick move. But his WTS thread was the latest in a long line of threads I have seen where the item I want is priced about the same as new, and it pissed me off and I vented So I apologize to vash for being a dick in here
Now lets say you see the same person repeatedly selling shit way to high and ripping new members off over and over....then publicly calling them out might be appropriate in my mind
most members on this forum are good people and we all get pissy some days. ANd most shit blows over QUITE quickly and we are all adults so we all aint gonna get along all the times, and its why I like it here.
Cuz I can vent in this post and not worry about being banned or restricted etc.
Now back to @Shark Vape. Its a lost cause in my mind to argue with @TygerTyger ,@Whiskey, @UncleRJ or any of the other mods, notcie most of the other mods have been quite quiet on it.
Any who this is my final bit on SV and this situation.
Let go look at this thread its short and takes 2 minutes to read
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/do-this-when-you-see-spam.201995/
heres the quick version of it OF HOW I READ IT and HOW IT APPEARS TO ME (granted pms or other threads may be go0ing on I am unaware of)
PAGE 1
Huck tells everyone ages ago to not post in spam threads..
a few weeks ago she bumps the thread and reminds people
i ask who got spam banned
SV says its him
SV is pissed and starts to vent
tyger trys to placate him and calm him
whickeyt makes a comment
SV thinks its about him
huck tells him its not about him
all is well
SV rants one more times to TYGER
end of page 1
PAGE 2
starts with whiskey antagonizing SV and poking the proverbial bear with a stick
tyger responds to SV's rant
SV replies to whiskeys provacation
tyger tells SV to knock t off
sv says something about the spam question in his opinion mightbe part of teh issue
unclerj calls SV an ass about 4 times in 1 post
SV doesnt even respond
then the thread continue son quite civilly
Was SV a bit over the top and being a bit of an ass? yes
but he was talking to tyger who is quite capable of dealing with him herself and 2 mods start shit with SV
So the mods who know the SV situation better then anyone get to provoke him and he gets punished
You all want SV to knock his shit off? you want to not have to worry about SV?
2 choices
ban him
or have the mods who dont get along with him leave him the hell alone.
Because until he starts fucking with mods there never seems to be an issue with his rantings imho
its when certain mods get involved shit hits the fan
ANd this thread is not the only example of mods provoking him..its like they are trying to piss him off enough for him to fuck up and give tyger a reason to finally ban him once and for all
Now the only reason Im still going on about this is this...this type of shit is 1 step short of ECF
We all can be asses at times, so what happens when the next person doesnt get along with a couple mods, we going to have this shit all over again with them.
Its time for everyone to realize that their is plenty of blame to go around for the current SV situation, and move on and stop treating him like this
Now Im done with SV. mods/staff you want to reply feel free, or completely ignore what I posted. I know nothing I said will change the situation.
I may be 100% off base with the way I see things in this situation, but appearance is everything at times, and Im not the only one noticing the 1 sided way this situation was handled
Rant over
HAVE A NICE DAY
OK my original point was NOT about what SOME consider collectible. I dont get the whole collectible mod/atty thing period. But i completely acknowledge and accept that some add intrinsic value to certain rare, unusual, hand made items regardless of the industry. SO people selling that stuff I dont even look at those posts because that is not what I care about. To use the car analogy, thats like looking to buy a car that gets you to and from work and shopping the vintage/collectible car dealer. And to me thats a whole different world. And really has nothing to do with what I was ranting on about. SO if an apology is needed to anyone who is having a thread disrupted over my price rant, then I apologize whole heartedly and sincerely.
Now as to my own opinion on if someone should publicly post in someones WTS thread you can get shit cheaper. ALot of us including myself on rare occasion have done so. IT usually leads no where. Sometimes it does. Since everyone keeps bringing up free market.... this is where it bites one in the ass. TRUE FREE MARKET would allow people to make such posts even if they were links back to themselves or an affiliated business.
I personally think the vendor rules covers when some asshat goes in to WTS threads and posts hey I can sell it to you cheaper. The rules SAY DONT DO IT.
If your not a vendor, and you want to do it, i think its a case by case basis. Lets say for example @Vash, and yes I specifying vash cuz most already know he is the person I was bitching about earlier and I want to clear the air about something. He sells and buys a ton of stuff here. I would actually pay him a tiny bit more then just any joe schmoe. BECAUSE HE HAS a GOOD REPUTATION. And yea i think selling a used 3li for the same as a new one is BULLSHIT. But he listed a bunch of other stuff in the same thread and all the other stuff was a good price. SO if you want to go and be the price nazi on him a PM would be very appropriate.
Now one could argue with this thread I practically called him out publicly on it. And maybe that was a bit of a dick move. But his WTS thread was the latest in a long line of threads I have seen where the item I want is priced about the same as new, and it pissed me off and I vented So I apologize to vash for being a dick in here
Now lets say you see the same person repeatedly selling shit way to high and ripping new members off over and over....then publicly calling them out might be appropriate in my mind
most members on this forum are good people and we all get pissy some days. ANd most shit blows over QUITE quickly and we are all adults so we all aint gonna get along all the times, and its why I like it here.
Cuz I can vent in this post and not worry about being banned or restricted etc.
Now back to @Shark Vape. Its a lost cause in my mind to argue with @TygerTyger ,@Whiskey, @UncleRJ or any of the other mods, notcie most of the other mods have been quite quiet on it.
Any who this is my final bit on SV and this situation.
Let go look at this thread its short and takes 2 minutes to read
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/do-this-when-you-see-spam.201995/
heres the quick version of it OF HOW I READ IT and HOW IT APPEARS TO ME (granted pms or other threads may be go0ing on I am unaware of)
PAGE 1
Huck tells everyone ages ago to not post in spam threads..
a few weeks ago she bumps the thread and reminds people
i ask who got spam banned
SV says its him
SV is pissed and starts to vent
tyger trys to placate him and calm him
whickeyt makes a comment
SV thinks its about him
huck tells him its not about him
all is well
SV rants one more times to TYGER
end of page 1
PAGE 2
starts with whiskey antagonizing SV and poking the proverbial bear with a stick
tyger responds to SV's rant
SV replies to whiskeys provacation
tyger tells SV to knock t off
sv says something about the spam question in his opinion mightbe part of teh issue
unclerj calls SV an ass about 4 times in 1 post
SV doesnt even respond
then the thread continue son quite civilly
Was SV a bit over the top and being a bit of an ass? yes
but he was talking to tyger who is quite capable of dealing with him herself and 2 mods start shit with SV
So the mods who know the SV situation better then anyone get to provoke him and he gets punished
You all want SV to knock his shit off? you want to not have to worry about SV?
2 choices
ban him
or have the mods who dont get along with him leave him the hell alone.
Because until he starts fucking with mods there never seems to be an issue with his rantings imho
its when certain mods get involved shit hits the fan
ANd this thread is not the only example of mods provoking him..its like they are trying to piss him off enough for him to fuck up and give tyger a reason to finally ban him once and for all
Now the only reason Im still going on about this is this...this type of shit is 1 step short of ECF
We all can be asses at times, so what happens when the next person doesnt get along with a couple mods, we going to have this shit all over again with them.
Its time for everyone to realize that their is plenty of blame to go around for the current SV situation, and move on and stop treating him like this
Now Im done with SV. mods/staff you want to reply feel free, or completely ignore what I posted. I know nothing I said will change the situation.
I may be 100% off base with the way I see things in this situation, but appearance is everything at times, and Im not the only one noticing the 1 sided way this situation was handled
Rant over
HAVE A NICE DAY