found this on my FB feed:
https://www.staysafebattery.com/en/...therArea_37s&dclid=CPq75fO7rOcCFcVGNwodriwBJg
https://www.staysafebattery.com/en/...therArea_37s&dclid=CPq75fO7rOcCFcVGNwodriwBJg
Lg sent out cease and desist letters to vape shops last year or so. now that they have ended up in my newsfeed I am happy not to purchase LG products...It is their business they if they dont want mine I am happy with that.Yea the major battery makers have had this stance for awhile now. Keeps them safe from lawsuits.
Samsung and Sony is all i purchase also.I've been using Samsung batteries since I started vaping just ordered some sony vtc6s just to change it up and try something different. I will not be purchasing LG batteries.
True but LG goes out of their way to be a dick about it. lol. Maybe less concern over how people will use their products and a little more concern in the shit products they seem to be producing in abundance.None of the major good li cell makers promote their batteries for vape use.
Never have.
I think Panasonic may promote some individual cell use in flashlights and such but not Sony, LG, Samsung...
Lg sent out cease and desist letters to vape shops last year or so. now that they have ended up in my newsfeed I am happy not to purchase LG products...It is their business they if they dont want mine I am happy with that.
Yea the major battery makers have had this stance for awhile now. Keeps them safe from lawsuits.
Yep and it's the smart thing to do on their part.Yea the major battery makers have had this stance for awhile now. Keeps them safe from lawsuits.
Yep and it's the smart thing to do on their part.
Really nothing to see here, old news that these companies don't want their batteries suggested for use in vape hardware.
There is one exception, E-One Moli Energy Corp. (Moli), and, although they're not among the "Big 4" (Sony/Murata, Samsung, LG, Panasonic/Sanyo) they are a major cell manufacturer in the particular sense that, same as the Big 4, the cells they make are using the same reliable safety and quality standards throughout their entire manufacturing process, and, they feel confident enough about their being so reliable that they do in fact market their cells towards vapers, i.e. they have a distrubution company that specifically targets (among others) the vaping market, N-Power Energy Limited (NPE).Yea the major battery makers have had this stance for awhile now. Keeps them safe from lawsuits.
These types of bare cells are not designed to be used outside a fully protected battery pack with a protection circuit. So it is only normal the fact the manufacturers of these cells don't want to be liable for any damages that might occur as a result from consumers mishandling/misusing their bare cells... similarly, LG want to sell a TV, but they don't want to pay for your broken foot after you put your TV up on your wall yourself because, instead, they tell consumers that Life's Good if consumers buy more LG TVs to be able to watch videos of your broken foot on YouTube. Sony, Samsung, and Panasonic are thinking exactly the same. They also think Life's Good. They just don't very often say that out loud...If I'm not supposed to handle bare cells, does that mean I cannot rub my hand over my face? Does it mean I cannot use DD cell flashlights, AA cell ones? I think while it might be "smart" for manufactures to suggest this way to consumers, it is also rather stupid on its face.
Are the battery manufactures then going to quit advertising directly to consumers on television? I bet they don't because consumers drive their profit.
How else do they expect consumers to use and consume their "bare cells" if they don't put them into devices for use? Ah, guess we need to pay product makers to train professional bare cell installers, bare cell technicians. Consumers get store personal certified to deal with bare cells to put batteries in. Do I see that happening? No. It would eat up profits.
This is the same reason consumers are directly advertised to by big pharmaceutical companies. It is also why big drug companies will not stop advertising directly to consumers and instead advertise to doctors only. The bottom line is keeping in the black, ... profits.
Also, if a company doesn't want my business that's fine. I'm sure other companies exist that do. After all greed seems to indicate most everyone wants a profit, hark my prophetic words.
, But i do know their TV's suck ass.
I have had two and the circuit boards on both shit the bed within two years.
Somebody has got to start somewhere...I boycott Nestle. Like that's going to make a difference. I dont like their principles though and refuse to spend my money on their products.
in the me me generation it probably will not mean shit to a tree.
That is the way I see it.... too late for me to grow up kiddo.If anything represents the "me me generation" it's your post about this. You're offended by their stance and you have to get on social media and make a fuss about it. Grow up.
If you really want to boycott them because of this, then I suppose you could. At least you wouln't have to sacrifice your own vaping needs for that, as I already previously explained about Molicel batteries, albeit in the end you'd still achieve exactly bupkis with this boycott... and nobody would give a shit.I do not think I was clear about the point I was trying to make. A large corporation has said I should not buy their product, I fully understand that they would like to avoid liability and lawsuits. We are, of course a litigious society. If the vape industry survives, expect some time in the not so distant future, vape products will be required to be internal battery only and LG will be happy to make non removable batteries for that.
The point I was trying to make as a consumer when a notice is targeted to me that a company does not want my business, as a consumer I choose not to purchase anything that that company sells. Whether it be batteries, TVs , Kitchen appliances etc. The only way to stand up to large conpanies is to not support them at any level. My personal boycott will do nothing, and in the me me generation it probably will not mean shit to a tree.
Do not know why anyone is upset about my comment, because I wont buy LG is no reason for people to be scratching their silica filled pussies. I am not asking anyone or telling anyone to do anything.If you really want to boycott them because of this, then I suppose you could. At least you wouln't have to sacrifice your own vaping needs for that, as I already previously explained about Molicel batteries, albeit in the end you'd still achieve exactly bupkis with this boycott... and nobody would give a shit.
It's how the world works. It actually surprises me the fact potato knife manufacturers aren't legally forced to put up a warning sign stating they're sharp... that way you would be in a position to go all sandy vagina on sand-filled potato warts, and we might have a few good laughs about that stuff so, it knocks me unconscious why on the sand-like earth can't you just take a deep breath, vape a couple times, and relax?
What makes you think I am upset about your comment? To the contrary I feel very joyful for my having had the nice privilege to be so eloquently entertained by it, I was watching depressing TV news debates about Brejoin and about murdering autists by poison so thanks a million for cheering me up like this... now I definitely want to read more from you.Do not know why anyone is upset about my comment, because I wont buy LG is no reason for people to be scratching their silica filled pussies. I am not asking anyone or telling anyone to do anything.
You would be fine using cells salvaged form laptop battery packs if worst came to worst. Most of them are rated at about 4-5 amps CDR.If they really wanted to stop consumer usage, they could tighten their distribution chain. But they don't because they really don't care. It's just about liability...CYA.
What does bother me a bit is that the imagery used was only geared toward one consumer use of the batteries (vaping) and not any other consumers, like flashlight users (I'm sure there are many others. I think drone/quadcopter enthusiasts use them too). Yet the underlying message is pertinent to all consumer users.
So I think it goes show that they are just jumping on the "demonize vape bandwagon" and conducting a CYA campaign more than they are actually concerned about safety.
Boycott LG? Go for it. I'm in. It's easy for me. I never used them anyhow.
I never vape at more than 2.7 amps maximum. My mix includes some Efests, some Sammies, some Trustfires and some Ultrafires. Never had a problem with any of them as a low amperage vaper.
You would be fine using cells salvaged form laptop battery packs if worst came to worst.
And the cells were certainly not designed for using one end of the battery as a switch contact.
As most tube mechs tend to do.
The cell casing is very thin and could be arced thru, which would likely cause bad things to happen. Or the heat from the arcing or poor contact could cause damage inside the cell causing bad things.Can you elaborate why it's not a good idea to use the negative end as a switch contact? I've never heard anyone mention this to be a bad thing before.
Admittedly, I'm not a huge user of mechs, only casual. But all of them are older tube mechs so this interests me.
Its about time for them to put these cells in a protective case and market and sell to vapers, flashlight enthusiasts, RC folks, etc. The world would be a better place and our batteries would be safer. It’s a win-win.
Every battery purchaser would sign a legal waiver at time of purchase?A simple use at your own risk should cover that
Its about time for them to put these cells in a protective case and market and sell to vapers, flashlight enthusiasts, RC folks, etc. The world would be a better place and our batteries would be safer. It’s a win-win.
Same here I will not cut off my nose to spite their face.In the end, all this is about is words. I don’t care enough about it to change the way shop. I find the best product I can get for the amount of money I’m willing to spend. If that happens to be an LG product then so be it.
Its about time for them to put these cells in a protective case and market and sell to vapers, flashlight enthusiasts, RC folks, etc. The world would be a better place and our batteries would be safer. It’s a win-win.
There is one exception, E-One Moli Energy Corp. (Moli), and, although they're not among the "Big 4" (Sony/Murata, Samsung, LG, Panasonic/Sanyo) they are a major cell manufacturer in the particular sense that, same as the Big 4, the cells they make are using the same reliable safety and quality standards throughout their entire manufacturing process, and, they feel confident enough about their being so reliable that they do in fact market their cells towards vapers, i.e. they have a distrubution company that specifically targets (among others) the vaping market, N-Power Energy Limited (NPE).
The MoliCel cells that Moli makes include some of the best performing ones available to us right now, and these cells also are widely available to us so I guess that also counts as "major". It does for me.
I boycott Nestle. Like that's going to make a difference. I dont like their principles though and refuse to spend my money on their products.
What makes you think I am upset about your comment? To the contrary I feel very joyful for my having had the nice privilege to be so eloquently entertained by it, I was watching depressing TV news debates about Brejoin and about murdering autists by poison so thanks a million for cheering me up like this... now I definitely want to read more from you.
They are known to use products made, gathered by child labour. But reality is most big brands do that too. Nike, Adidas, Apple, Gap and the list goes on. Its easy to find the info on it all. World consumers though turn a blind eye to it all. Sports stars being ambassadors and promoting gear they use made by children under appalling conditions.What did Nestle do? I don’t knowingly use their products, since I don’t use their cocoa or eat mass produced chocolate.
That sounds snotty, but it’s not meant to be!