I'm retarded and just almost blew my self up (maybe?)

[topkek]

These were two good condition HE4's that were fully charged on a Nitecore UM20 charger that didn't throw any damage messages when they were sitting in there. I went to put them in my new Bigfoot unregulated mechanical box mod and some shit happened. I put the first one in without incident but I put the second one in negative side first when you're supposed to do it positive side first. I think it tore the wrap a bit and shorted to the casing because it started smoking and sizzling like it was going to vent. I don't know if it actually vented since I tore it out and ran out of the room at the first whisp of smoke and cowered in my living room for an hour waiting to hear a pop. After I worked up the courage to inspect it, I saw that the wrap on the positive edge was melted but the cell wasn't bulging and it wasn't warm to the touch.

Was the smoke just from the wrap melting or did it actually vent? I'm definitely ditching both of these little shits because I'm scurred of them now but did this do any real damage to the battery beyond cosmetic?

Melted Battery


Other battery showing torn wrap because I stuck it in wrong too like a dipshit


There's some wrap melted to the positive contact on the mod. That's going to be a bitch to get off.

 

[Zamazam]

Both batteries are shot. You directly shorted them and started one venting. The shorting has caused a large internal resistance via chemical reaction build up in the cells rendering them unusable. Recycle them. Never use them again.

 

[Whiskey]

Voted yes

 

[topkek]

Both batteries are shot. You directly shorted them and started one venting. The shorting has caused a large internal resistance via chemical reaction build up in the cells rendering them unusable. Recycle them. Never use them again.

That's what I suspected. Thanks for confirming. That scared the living shit out of me. I think I've learned my lesson to pay attention to the fuck huge warning labels and pamphlets.

 

[Teresa P]

Very glad you weren't hurt.

 

[Whiskey]

Yes Teresa is right, glad you were not harmed

 

[pulsevape]

been there done that can I join the club.

 

[ObxChef]

I did that with Samsung batteries and I still use them. Test them on your charger or a regulated mod first of course. I three mine outside and wait for for the pop. Got them the nxt day and still worked. Worth a shot.

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[topkek]

I did that with Samsung batteries and I still use them. Test them on your charger or a regulated mod first of course. I three mine outside and wait for for the pop. Got them the nxt day and still worked. Worth a shot.

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I'd rather not risk it. $15 for a new pair of batteries is a cheap price to pay for the assurance that my face won't explode unexpectedly.

 

[ObxChef]

30 bucks was to much for me. I THINK some batteries are protected in some way. Some other guys would have more insite then me

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[MorpheusPA]

Definitely ditch the batteries instantly like everybody else said above, but I still would have voted No on the poll if both options weren't showing Yes to me. So I chose the second Yes to signify No.

Hey, accidents happen. When distracted, I occasionally put my battery in backwards (in a single battery, reverse polarity protected mod) and then wonder why it won't turn on. 18650 batts are great, but regrettably, they don't really have a definite positive and negative side if they're a flat top!

 

[snake94115]

Welcome to the "Oh Shit" club.
And super glad you are alright.
Just toss the batteries,better safe than sorry.

Oh by the way no you ain't stupid everybody who's ever used an unregulated box mod has at least 1 scary moment.
I know I had at least 1...Don't ask.

 

[Masher59]

Glad you are ok and ditch the batteries. Batteries are cheap.

 

[James]

I am glad you dident burn down your place......Panic Kills .... please please please ..... never leave like that and run and hide . Observe from a safe distance , but never leave like that .

 

[topkek]

I am glad you dident burn down your place......Panic Kills .... please please please ..... never leave like that and run and hide . Observe from a safe distance , but never leave like that .

You're absolutely right. Everything about this entire situation was dumb as hell. After looking up the spec sheets for the HE4 it says it isn't protected but it did survive an hour long hard short without explosion in testing so I flipped out over nothing.

 

[ObxChef]

I had a dream last night that I did that same thing and dropped the battery by my foot and blew my foot off. Ha

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[dr_rox]

Was the smoke just from the wrap melting or did it actually vent? I'm definitely ditching both of these little shits because I'm scurred of them now but did this do any real damage to the battery beyond cosmetic?

My 4 cents.

Only one battery was shorted.
The other battery was the conductor thru the outer jacket.
The one most visibly damaged was the conductor, and is probably OK via a rewrap.
Just have to look at seals at contact point.

The other battery does not look bad at all. The shrinkwrap would have continued to shrink and would have torn had the heat gotten very high.
The OP got them out of circuit fast.

What you do with the batteries is up to you.
I inow what I would do.
People vape close to the load put on that cell - just that current goes thru a circuit that can handle it.

That battery tray is a POS.
They could have used a more facile fastener.
Not like there is only one type out there.
But follow the instructions next time!
Or make an insulating doughnut to protect or remind you of proper insertion ( or replace them).

Just another thought of where a 'scent' could be generated..
Here's where the smoke could have also come from since you also got the circuit hot that couples the batteries.
Circuit boards will smoke, insulation, and a possibly some solder melted.
For perspective, those 'cold heat' soldering irons use only 2 puny AA batteries in a direct short at joint to melt lead.
No shit.

q;P

venting.

 

[Masher59]

The video music was on time lmao.

 

[Jon@LiionWholesale]

Honestly you dealt with the situation well. Get new batteries though. If it was sizzling it vented. It's possible the other one is OK but like others have said it's not worth risking it and you would have to rewrap it anyway even if it is good. It is possible (although unlikely) that it works ok but some of the internal safety measures are shot.

Luckily these IMR batteries when they vent it usually goes like what happened for you...sizzles some and that's it. But you did good by preparing for the unlikely but possible more violent reaction.

 

[Lost]

Lesson learned here is...
Admit to being stupid right off the bat and you get much less grief later.

(Love the poll.)

 

[MrScaryZ]

These were two good condition HE4's that were fully charged on a Nitecore UM20 charger that didn't throw any damage messages when they were sitting in there. I went to put them in my new Bigfoot unregulated mechanical box mod and some shit happened. I put the first one in without incident but I put the second one in negative side first when you're supposed to do it positive side first. I think it tore the wrap a bit and shorted to the casing because it started smoking and sizzling like it was going to vent. I don't know if it actually vented since I tore it out and ran out of the room at the first whisp of smoke and cowered in my living room for an hour waiting to hear a pop. After I worked up the courage to inspect it, I saw that the wrap on the positive edge was melted but the cell wasn't bulging and it wasn't warm to the touch.

Was the smoke just from the wrap melting or did it actually vent? I'm definitely ditching both of these little shits because I'm scurred of them now but did this do any real damage to the battery beyond cosmetic?

Melted Battery
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Other battery showing torn wrap because I stuck it in wrong too like a dipshit
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There's some wrap melted to the positive contact on the mod. That's going to be a bitch to get off.
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dont feel bad I shorted out a HE2 yesterday it happens

 

[Angrygod50]

There's two kind of vapers the ones that put a battery in backwards and the ones that will someday put a battery in backwards. It's called a brain fart.

 

[PuffPuffPass]

There's two kind of vapers the ones that put a battery in backwards and the ones that will someday put a battery in backwards. It's called a brain fart.

Thank God for circuit protection on the chargers. I left 2 in backwards overnight. I was way too tired to be doing anything that required thought it seems.

 

[Number3124]

I burnt a mood mech down one time. It was a wood and copper mechanical box. Put a battery in, put the second one in upside down thinking it was my Sig150 and immediate fire, a dead box, and two vented VTC3s.

 

[snake94115]

I burnt a mood mech down one time. It was a wood and copper mechanical box. Put a battery in, put the second one in upside down thinking it was my Sig150 and immediate fire, a dead box, and two vented VTC3s.

Ouchies.

 

[Cackalacky]

Oh by the way no you ain't stupid everybody who's ever used an unregulated box mod has at least 1 scary moment.
I know I had at least 1...Don't ask.

I had one when I nearly put a new dual coil build up to my mouth without the cap on. Friggin force of habit - and distraction from the telephone. What on earth stopped me from doing it I will never know, but I'm so glad I don't have a mouth that looks like a hamburger fresh off the grill!