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slayer420-x

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Ive heard propylene glycol can have side effects of rash, and ive had red itchy bumps on arms chest n legs for week or two, im thinkin pg may be the cause. Unfortunately my vape shop only offers 70 pg 30 vg. There prices are for 30 ml, 1- $20, 2-$30, 3-$40. Ive also wanted more vg because id rather more vapor, i like bigger clouds n this juice even with my nautilus on max airflow isnt as much as id like. Im in ont, canada & seen online store in b.c called crave ejuice. They offer 100% vg or 80% vg 20% pg. they say its organic vg, is that normal/ ok? There juice is cheaper to, 30 ml for $14, 120 ml for $38, or 240 ml for $57 . Should this company be trustable? They say there juice or vg is organic which juice i have now isnt, whats that mean? And should i get 80 % vg not 100? I know most vapers use high vg so it must be better then the 70 % pg i have. Also i have a nautilus with bvc, how much vg can it handle. Will performace change if its to thick
 

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I try to stay at 60% VG or below for use in BVC coils. Some juices can go up to 70% but that depends on the viscosity which will vary depending on the type flavor carrier and amount of flavor used. For example, water and alcohol flavor carriers will thin VG more than PG carrier.
 

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This crave ejuice apparently uses all organic vg, pg & natural flavors. Is that good for juice? And i seen a video review and even there 100 vg looked pretty thin, that kinda has me weary. Anyone try juice like that, all natural n organic and thin vg. Would it produce as much vapor as thick vg? I was hoping it was thick but maybe its ok?
 

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It will be up to you whether organic is important. I have never seen a thin VG, so I don't know what they are doing to get that. People are doing all sorts of things to set themselves apart in the ejuice market. It is really up to you to decide if it is good or bad.
 

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I have not tried their juices yet, but I know someone who wont vape anything but their juice, he has given them very high praises.
 

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Has anyone tried organic vg with organic & natural flavors? Ive never tried a high vg juice, only my 70 pg 30 vg. Im curious how it vapes compared to non organic? Is it just safer? Should organic vg produce as much vapor as non organic? IT looked thin compared to most high vg ive seen.
 

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Can't say I know anything about the vendor in question since I'm in the US and so far all the places I've bought from are US based.

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I normally use 80% or higher VG juice in my Nautilus tanks and I've rarely had issues with the BDC coils and have been using it with BVC since last Thursday. Put at least 30ml threw it so far. The only issues I've had with dry hits are when I don't stop before running the tank dry.

Also, yesterday I did order some supposedly organic max VG juice to try out. When it gets here later in the week I can comment on how it compares to the same non-organic flavors I have from other vendors.
 

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Thanks id appreciate that. Im just hoping organic vg with all natural flavors will be good. Taste & vapor production. Id hate to get a huge 240 ml bottle & not like it. Ive never tried high vg, juice i have is high pg, 70 pg.i think id like high vg as i want alot of thick dense vapor, hope organic vg does that. I think im allergic to pg as im super itchy on my legs , chest & arms & i read pg allergy can do that. I dont wanna quit vaping so i think vg is the way to go. I could get high vg from diffrent canadian online store but this crave e juice is cheapest ive seen, & love how they sell big 120 & 240 ml bottle . They only offer 80 organic vg 20 pg or 100 organic vg. Kinda wondering why it looks thin compared to most vg i seen, have you seen thinner high vg? Is it ok
 

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VG is naturally thick. The only thinner VG I've seen was due to thinning, usually with distilled water.
 

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Thinned with water, most juice doesnt have water does it. Thined vg juice probably wouldnt give as much vapor ?
 

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Most don't. Some people try to avoid PG entirely (or near as possible, most flavoring is PG based) due to allergies but if their equipment can't handle straight VG then it needs to be thinned somehow. Most usually that's with distilled water up to 30%. Johnsons Creek's entire Red Oak VG line used it though I hear that's changed. You can order VG/DW 70/30 at Mt. Baker and some other vendors as well. I would guess the vapor is less than straight VG and it will crackle more as that water vaporizes. Of course if you are just getting dry hits with straight VG it would actually be more. :)
 

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Thinner vg would still produce alot more vapor then what im gettin off this 70 pg right? It doesnt say water in ingredients on crave ejuice site, just says organic vg, organic or natural flavor and seasonings. maybe organic vg is just thin? Im just hoping it would be good being organic vg & flavor, no one here try that type of juice? Its cheapest juice i can find in canada for large amount, its just the organic that has me hesitant. And natural or organic flavor
 

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Found a vendor called maple leaf vapes. There juice isnt organic, its 50/50 but apparently you can suggest higher vg. I think im going to try them. Im not that interested in organic and all natural organic flavor, i may not like it, and how its thin. Atleast with this non organic place i know illl like it, same as i have just more vg, more vapor. & thicker juice i think i need as this thin pg im thinking is why i get flooding n gurgling somtimes. Should 50 50 be fine or should i get more vg, if im having allergy to pg idk if i need 100 vg or just alot less pg, maybe like 70 vg, 80 vg
 

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Should i stick with 50 50 , thats what there juice is, or i can customise it, how much vg can i go up to on nautilus bvc coil, 60 vg ?70 vg? 80 vg?
 

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So im goona order some vanilla custard from maple leaf vapes, hope i like that flavor, i love vanilla & french vanilla so i should like it & its there # 2 seller. I was talking to guy from maple leaf and he said 70 would be the max vg i can get in vanilla custard. So if i get 70 vg 30 pg, will that work fine in my nautilus bvc? not to thick? Theres no added water to there juice. He said if i let it steep for week or so it will get pretty thick, so whats steeping?
 

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Can someone let me know if 70 vg 30 pg is ok for nautilus bvc. Not to thick where itll burn
 

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I don't use the Nautilus myself but zaroba has already said that he uses 80% without issues. I do use sometimes the non nautilus BVC heads. My own mixes tend to be 65% VG and it handles it just fine.
Steeping is nothing more than letting the juice age. As it does the flavors on some juices mix better and it can dramatically alter the flavor of a juice. Not all flavors require much steeping. Many fruit flavors come to mind. The more complex the flavorings the better chance it might require some steeping to achieve the intended results. Most custards benefit from steeping. Steeping will not affect vapor production, just taste. If the taste seems off then give it a week and test it again, two weeks will work for most juices. Of course some are ones you don't care for no matter how much it steeps.
 
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