HiLIQ miss lables and sells products that are not what they advertise

Discussion in 'The Bad' started by tonka, Apr 17, 2017.

  1. tonka

    tonka Member For 2 Years

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    First, I will say that HiLIQ's nicotine is the best, cleanest and I really like and would continue buying it if not for the following problems that are a BIG deal.

    One: The last bottles of nicotine that arrived did NOT have the words "nicotine" on them. Here in America you HAVE to put what is in the bottle ON the label. I understand (I don't approve of) that you avoid using the word nicotine on the shipping invoice and label because some shipping companies will not ship dangers products and nicotine is on that list of items. But if there is a spillage, there needs to be a record of what is in the package so it can be handled in a safe manor. If you say it's PG or VG and someone gets it spilled on them they could get very sick if they don't wash it off quickly.
    Here are pictures of those bottles.
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    Problem two:
    You say you are selling non-tobacco nicotine aka NTN. The test result and by your own admission your nicotine is made from tobacco. I understand you have trouble with English and misunderstood what "NON" meant, but now you know the truth , yet you are still trying to sell it on your web site.

    https://globenewswire.com/news-rele...inds-HiLIQ-s-NTN-is-Derived-From-Tobacco.html

    http://www.nextgenerationlabs.com/ntn-from-hiliq-proved-not-to-be-synthetic-nicotine/

    http://www.vapercafeaustralia.com/threads/claims-hiliqs-ntn-is-derived-from-tobacco.4710/

    http://www.satprnews.com/2017/02/22...abs-finds-hiliqs-ntn-is-derived-from-tobacco/


    Problem three: I didn't earlier but now that I don't trust you I tested your nicotine and found that the 100mg/ml nicotine varies from 60mg/ml to 120mg/ml. I had three other people also test it with the same results.

    The reason I started DIY is I didn't trust local vape shops going behind curtains and mixing something I was going to put in my body. Now I can't trust you either.

    I apologize to all the friends and fellow vaper that I recommended this company's product to.
    I now recommend that everyone STOP using HiLIQ for anything.
     
  2. The Cromwell

    The Cromwell The Frugal Vapist VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    Deceit in the Vape industry hurts us all.

    this is the type of thing that anti vape advocates would run with.
     
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  3. tonka

    tonka Member For 2 Years

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    I know a lot of people complain and worry about the FDA taking too much control with the vaping industry. But ,truth be known, we need someone to protect us.
    Not over tax or make unreasonable requirements on juice companies and vape shops. But some agency to write simple rules, spot test and check to make sure we are vaping what we think we are. Charging a fair amount of tax to cover this cost.

    I know most juice companies are testing their nicotine and juices to assure that when you order 6mg/ml or what ever nicotine level the bottle says it is ,that it test at that level.

    I'm just a small time mixer, friends, family, friends of friends. and I rely on the nicotine that I'm buying being what the label says it is.
    I took the gamble on HiLIQ because of the reviews and the times that they had free and quick shipping. I'm going back to my local supplier Heartlandvapes because I trust and know they test each batch. But not everyone can visit suppliers , meet the owners and have to trust without every meeting or visiting the business.

    Until something is done about this, all we have is each other , helping ,reporting to each other about our experiences.
    That is why I'm posting this, as a warning about using HiLIQ and I'm not going to use any Chinese companies anymore for my liquid needs.

    The long arm of the law doesn't seam to be long enough to reach China and they seam to know it, and do whatever the fuck they want to make money.
     
  4. Whiskey

    Whiskey Diamond Contributor Member For 4 Years

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    I have to agree we do need some type of regulations put in place for this reason, I'm afraid also that opens the door for over regulation. I feel we need to have good checks and balances, not greedy ones.
     
  5. tonka

    tonka Member For 2 Years

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    I see HiLIQ removed NTN from their website
    That's a good start
     
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