Ebay now banning mods and excessaries

[Dan Az]

I just received this from ebay where I was selling mods and tanks, And I just wanted everyone to know that they are taking sides of the FDA ruling that was shut down by congress of trying to control the ecig market. I closed my account with them and I hope everyone else will do the same to send a message to them.I explained that the FDA was shut down on their attempt to control the market on false information by congress and that because of their apparent liberal decision to follow through with it anyway they have made a 3 million consumer mistake. Write them and tell them why you are shutting down your account and take a stand before it goes any further.We need to stand together on this one.
The following listing has been removed:

181431343545 - Innokin VTR, Stainless Steel with case


We noticed that item(s) offered for sale on this account weren’t listed in accordance with our Tobacco Products policy. We realize you may not have been aware of this policy, or that this may have been a simple oversight, so we're including some policy information to help you with your future listings and to make sure they don't run into any problems. We also had to take the following actions:
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[Garemlin]

Mods, tanks, clearos, RTA's, RDA's etc are not e-cigarette products. They contain no tobacco or nicotine. E-cigs do. You need to list your items as such with a disclaimer. That is what many people are doing.

And if they are banning listings like this why are there still plenty of listings for hookahs and bongs ( bongs listed as water pipes)??? They are bought for pretty obvious reasons.

What a complete hypocritical crock of shit.

 

[Garemlin]

My open letter to ebay posted and tagging them on FB and Google+. I encourage you to do the same:

Hey eBay. Why are you banning listing for e-cigarette products and accessories but you still allow listings for hookahs and bongs (bongs listed as water pipes). There are thousands of active and sold listings for both. You are actually banning e-cig listings that are not even e-cigs. Mods, batteries and tanks ARE NOT e-cig products. They contain no tobacco or nicotine. They actually do not contain anything that is consumable. They are electronic devices and empty tanks. You need to quit jumping on the FDA bandwagon and not be so hypocritical. If you are going to ban listings that could be used for vaporizing purposes you need to also ban anything that can and are used for tobacco and illicit drug consumption.

 

[allby]

They are banning ecigs and vaping equipment but send me 4 emails a day for Mech mods, clearomizers, nautulus, and batterys. I dont get it.

 

[JapaneseOrganicCotton]

Dan Az you should have not closed your account. It just shows we will lose the struggle in the end. You need to put a disclaimer up such as the one I use.
Also avoid using words like Vape or Clone . Use words like mechanical mod or style . As long as you can follow there guild lines you will be fine.


*This listing is a XXXXXX unit only. It does not contain nicotine, tobacco, or other regulated substances. Additionally, this product has legitimate uses that are not related to electronic cigarettes.Please do not purchase if you do not agree with this statement and are at least 18 yrs of age.We will not be responsible for any misuse of this product. Advanced Mechanical Mods, Not for Beginners. By purchasing this product, you have agreed with the above statement.

 

[MKPM]

Ebay banned these over a year ago. If you look closely at the categories that such things are posted in, and most descriptions of products...there is no mention of vaping, e-cigarettes...etc. You just have to be strategically vague in your descriptions. Again, this is not something they are just now doing.

 

[fq06]

Thats interesting that the ban everything tobacco but an unopened collectible with tobacco is ok? That's an odd thing to write into the rules immediately after you said absolutely everything tobacco is banned.

"You may sell collectible packaging that contains tobacco if the package is unopened."

 

[MKPM]

Thats interesting that the ban everything tobacco but an unopened collectible with tobacco is ok? That's an odd thing to write into the rules immediately after you said absolutely everything tobacco is banned.

"You may sell collectible packaging that contains tobacco if the package is unopened."

I have a vintage Victorian era bottle of laudinum....it still contains laudinum....but I abhor opiates and narcotics....but love the bottle.....catch where I'm going with this? I think the letter and spirit implies that one may not sell packets of cigarettes that are not available in a buyers locale. Or even more specifically....Cuban cigars to a country that has an intact embargo on such things. But a vintage Cuban cigar box that may have a few stray bits of wrapper stuck to the inside...or the oil residue, would be permissible.

 

[TheWestPole]

Ebay banned these over a year ago. If you look closely at the categories that such things are posted in, and most descriptions of products...there is no mention of vaping, e-cigarettes...etc. You just have to be strategically vague in your descriptions. Again, this is not something they are just now doing.

Right. I have had a couple of listings blocked, but careful editing got them through. We'll see how dedicated they become in their restrictions. But for now it's halfhearted and for corporate deniability only.

 

[5150sick]

This has been going on for years. It used to be soooo much worse back in early 2012. Someone would post a double ego-t kit for 24 hour auction or buy it now and it would be taken down in 4 hours or less if no one bought it.

What happens sometimes is your competition doesn't like your lower prices or faster shipping and then they report you.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Dunno... There are several listings that got closed after I bought. When I contact the seller, they claim ebay shut them down for the reasons above. Every one of them from a highly rated seller with disclaimers.

 

[Midniteoyl]

This has been going on for years. It used to be soooo much worse back in early 2012. Someone would post a double ego-t kit for 24 hour auction or buy it now and it would be taken down in 4 hours or less if no one bought it.

What happens sometimes is your competition doesn't like your lower prices or faster shipping and then they report you.

Agree... that is the most likely.. Most of the peeps I bought from that got shut down here and there DID have the best prices... Last one was the iStick full kit for $32 free shipping.. Got shut down 2 days after I bought it then the prices climbed on the selers still left selling it.