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Isn't an adjustable pin potentially a more solid connection than a spring loaded pin? Seems imperative if using temp control. Might be why they use it, and might be one of the reasons it may work better.Thanks for the video, A bit pricey for a clone, I'm not a fan of the screw adjustable 510 connection on any device. I agree they shouldn't have used the Vapor Flask logo. Looks like they nailed it with the DNA40 clone chip.
Isn't an adjustable pin potentially a more solid connection than a spring loaded pin? Seems imperative if using temp control. Might be why they use it, and might be one of the reasons it may work better.
I'm afraid I'm ordering one today too lolShit !
I swore I wasn't buying anything this month.
Bought one anyway. About $68 on focalecig. Oh yah if you look there don't get fooled by the v3 50watt model it doesn't have the temp control.
Now its a waiting game again to see which get here first. The mod or the NI200 wire from fleabay. LOL
Depends if the positive wire is connected directly to the bottom of the pin, or the spring itself is used as a conductor.Isn't an adjustable pin potentially a more solid connection than a spring loaded pin? .
Mike is an honest guy; I believe his review.Having said that, I would not be surprised if the Chinese version really did turn out to be better.
Mike is an honest guy; I believe his review.
A spring loaded pin has constant contact with the power because the pin is soldered directly to the power source. Adjustable pins can throw off the ohm load. Here is a video on how to solider a spring loaded 510. Not the way I do them but you'll get the just on how they work.Isn't an adjustable pin potentially a more solid connection than a spring loaded pin? Seems imperative if using temp control. Might be why they use it, and might be one of the reasons it may work better.
honesty and truth are not synonymousNot saying he ain't honest. What I'm saying is, it's easy to get carried away.
I've never understood how serial video reviewers - Busardo, Trippers or any of them - can seriously claim to be in a position to review any product simply by unboxing it, popping batteries in it and vaping it for 30 minutes. Case in point, Busardo was so eager to put out a video of the authentic DNA40 Vaporflask that he totally missed the flaky USB socket. Had he waited 24 hours and used it as a real vaper would, he'd have had to charge it, and he'd have noticed.
Obviously, comparing wick colors require a lot more usage than what's required to notice simple flaws like a flaky USB socket - and that already requires a few hours of real-world usage.
I'm fairly sure the guy's honest, but I'm also quite certain he can't claim the Chinese DNA40 performs better without living with it for at least a couple of weeks. Certain problems and idiosyncracies of a product only appear after getting used to it, and using it for a good long while.
Thanks for the video, A bit pricey for a clone, I'm not a fan of the screw adjustable 510 connection on any device. I agree they shouldn't have used the Vapor Flask logo. Looks like they nailed it with the DNA40 clone chip.
He's a friend of mine; he's spent some time with the device.Not saying he ain't honest. What I'm saying is, it's easy to get carried away.
I've never understood how serial video reviewers - Busardo, Trippers or any of them - can seriously claim to be in a position to review any product simply by unboxing it, popping batteries in it and vaping it for 30 minutes. Case in point, Busardo was so eager to put out a video of the authentic DNA40 Vaporflask that he totally missed the flaky USB socket. Had he waited 24 hours and used it as a real vaper would, he'd have had to charge it, and he'd have noticed.
Obviously, comparing wick colors require a lot more usage than what's required to notice simple flaws like a flaky USB socket - and that already requires a few hours of real-world usage.
I'm fairly sure the guy's honest, but I'm also quite certain he can't claim the Chinese DNA40 performs better without living with it for at least a couple of weeks. Certain problems and idiosyncracies of a product only appear after getting used to it, and using it for a good long while.
I like clones. But... Copper 510 socket = deal breaker for me. And no spring-loaded center pin = HUGE deal breaker for me. Maybe a Chinese DNA40 board in an authentic VaporShark enclosure? Mind you, I have zero complaints about the authentic DNA40 board - unlike many people, I understand.
The whole wick color thing in the video? Well OP, vape the exact same juice in the exact same conditions in the authentic and in the clone for a week or two, and come back to talk about it. But right now, it's definitely too early to state with absolute certainty that the Chinese board regulates better. That's just flamebaiting. Having said that, I would not be surprised if the Chinese version really did turn out to be better.
great review best I have seen in a while to the point no bullshit
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A spring loaded pin has constant contact with the power because the pin is soldered directly to the power source. Adjustable pins can throw off the ohm load. Here is a video on how to solider a spring loaded 510. Not the way I do them but you'll get the just on how they work.
On the 510, it isn`t copper, it IS brass with a very heavy copper
There are a lot of resistance reading errors on the web with the spring loaded ones, not a big amount, maybe 0.005ohms but these things need an accurate reading or they wont calibrate the temperature control properly when changing coils/atties.
I`m starting to think the TC/TP thing is highly overhyped. Yes, it works, but it`s only going to come in when your wick is drying out. For the rest of the time it isn`t doing anything but checking the temperature until it can go to work. That`s how I read the device anyway
For $225 you can not beat the BAP....DNA40 (second generation) and your choice of normal or large display (same price).I want temp control soooo bad but I'm still holding out for yihi w/ big ass display. To bad it will probably never come out
I've managed to build where I can thrown the full 40 watts @ 470° and it won't begin to throttle back until it's drying out. I've done the same build with nichrome 80 and can keep my wick fairly white if I just keep it wet. Temp mode is nice but I dont think it's all that exciting. If your one to not let your wicks dry out its not even being used once you master a build and wicking.Copper, brass... same thing: it's not steel, and the threads are softer and more delicate. But it's cheaper to make of course...
I've never had any problem with any of my spring-loaded center pin mods. Adjustable center pins on the other hand, while they work, are a pain in the neck. Manufacturers cleverly managed to market them as low-resistance connections when in reality they're just a cheap to make, cheesy alternative to a proper spring-loaded connector.
As for the accuracy of the resistance, the DNA40 isn't nearly as finicky as you think: when I change coils, they can be 0.02 ohms off compared to the previous one, and the DNA40 doesn't seem to mind and reuses the previous recorded value without any issue whatsoever. Eventually it re-learns the new coil's exact resistance (after waking up from deep sleep, or after I change the batteries) but there is no difference in performance as far as TC is concerned.
Actually, the DNA40 throttles the power all the time. It doesn't wait for the coil to hit the temperature limit. The only time it leaves the power setting you've dialed alone is when the wick is too wet and that the temperature doesn't come close to the limit you've set. In normal use though, the chip constantly adjusts the power throughout a toke. It only hits temperature protection proper when it really can't cope and has to shut down the power completely to prevent overheating.
Whatever it's doing, it sure isn't hype to me. There's something magical about never getting dry hits, and knowing you never will no matter what you do, believe me!
For $225 you can not beat the BAP....DNA40 (second generation) and your choice of normal or large display (same price).
Not everyone's style choice, but with his new coatings, it is not fragile.Ugly and fragile.
I've managed to build where I can thrown the full 40 watts @ 470° and it won't begin to throttle back until it's drying out. I've done the same build with nichrome 80 and can keep my wick fairly white if I just keep it wet. Temp mode is nice but I dont think it's all that exciting. If your one to not let your wicks dry out its not even being used once you master a build and wicking.
Ugly and fragile.
The coffin look did not make me moist.....the authentic DNA40 large screen @ $225 DIDFragile? I don't know. But ugly, for me that's for sure: I wouldn't own that thing even if you paid me to. But hey, to each his own
Copper, brass... same thing: it's not steel, and the threads are softer and more delicate. But it's cheaper to make of course...
I've never had any problem with any of my spring-loaded center pin mods. Adjustable center pins on the other hand, while they work, are a pain in the neck. Manufacturers cleverly managed to market them as low-resistance connections when in reality they're just a cheap to make, cheesy alternative to a proper spring-loaded connector.
As for the accuracy of the resistance, the DNA40 isn't nearly as finicky as you think: when I change coils, they can be 0.02 ohms off compared to the previous one, and the DNA40 doesn't seem to mind and reuses the previous recorded value without any issue whatsoever. Eventually it re-learns the new coil's exact resistance (after waking up from deep sleep, or after I change the batteries) but there is no difference in performance as far as TC is concerned.
Actually, the DNA40 throttles the power all the time. It doesn't wait for the coil to hit the temperature limit. The only time it leaves the power setting you've dialed alone is when the wick is too wet and that the temperature doesn't come close to the limit you've set. In normal use though, the chip constantly adjusts the power throughout a toke. It only hits temperature protection proper when it really can't cope and has to shut down the power completely to prevent overheating.
Whatever it's doing, it sure isn't hype to me. There's something magical about never getting dry hits, and knowing you never will no matter what you do, believe me!