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I think it's great some think DA, AP are benign, as we need lab rats, so we know one way or another...
There's assloads more DA in cigarettes. Wouldn't it be a more effective use of your time to go tilt that windmill at Altria's door? Their products are 95% more dangerous, AND have the aforementioned assloads more DA in them than e-liquid? Talk about a misappropriation of resources.
Precisely!!!So nothing can be said... speculation it is...
Now you're making MY point.Different temperatures, volumes, particulate size. Thee's no way to compare DA/AP in cigarettes to vaping... Does a filter in cigarettes trap DA/AP?
I just don't want to unknowingly inhale it myself, which is why I believe 3rd party testing should be mandatory...
So... Wouldn't the best for everyone involved if you simply took a couple of minutes to look online to find one of the many vendors that test and publish the results? So many do now. Just buy from them, and avoid the rest... Everyone that 'cares' should.
I've been vaping for 2 1/4 years now, and I have only bought about 15 bottles of vendor e liquid, and they were all 10 or 15ml bottles. I know exactly what I have been vaping. Others don't, but you can't fix stupid.
I didn't realize we were supposed to check in and out with you... Sorry.He's on vacation at the moment. Check back in 28 days.
you don't but I didn't want you to wonder why he didn't respond.I didn't realize we were supposed to check in and out with you... Sorry.
lol... I was only fooling around.
Vanilla custard v1 is my favorite vanilla and my favorite custard flavor.... nothing quite like it (for me) and one of the few flavors i order the large bottle of and need to have a backup of.
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I search far and wide for FA Sweet Cream (non DX) to use because the DX (diketone free) version is shit and it ruins my mixes.
FA only has only Fresh Cream ( No Sweet ) and while it is diketone free, I'm guessing you maybe meant TFA?
Yes, Sorry The TFA Sweet Cream is the one that I dislike in DX.
I was mistaken about the FA part.
I am not sure what it is.
It almost has a stale milk / rotten cheese smell that turns me off.
I really can not use it because of this foul odor that I notice.
I am sure other (maybe even most) people find it to be an acceptable replacement.
I would love to find a diketone free sweet cream that doesn't have this foul (to me) odor but I haven't yet.
I am open for suggestions though if you know of any please let me know.
A small sample size flavor vial is only a few bucks so it would be worth a try.
Thanks
It might be Butyric Acid that is having that effect on you ... it is sometimes used in absence of Acetoin and Acetyl Propionyl and some people have mentioned it smelling exactly as you have. It does appear that TFA is now using it in their Sweet Cream ( they only list one version ).
FA Fresh Cream is pretty good but it doesn't really add much sweetness. CAP Sweet Cream is diketone free but I don't know for sure if uses Butyric Acid or not since they don't disclose to that level. It might be worth trying either or both of those if you haven't already since it doesn't appear that TFA is offering both versions of Sweet Cream any longer, at least not from what I could see.
There are probably other versions out there too but I haven't tried any of them. Anybody else know of any good ones?
I also had heard from other vapers that it smells kind of like sweaty feet but some vapers don't even notice it.
So it may be possible that when I do find the non DX version of TFA Sweet Cream it could just be old stock?