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Cases tie e-cigarettes to lung injuries, pneumonia
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Same here.
At least one, the woman, had recently quit smoking and switched to vaping. The other, though they don't say, likely did too. 60 year olds don't generally start vaping out of the blue. Sounds to me like the flavors they were vaping irritated their healing and sensitive lungs.
I used to have terrible sinus and would lose my voice a couple times a year. My sinus is good now and I have not lost my voice once since vaping.
At any rate, these two cases are subjective. The docs say they "suspect" the flavors. That means they don't know and it's their best guess.
I used to have terrible sinus and would lose my voice a couple times a year. My sinus is good now and I have not lost my voice once since vaping.
At any rate, these two cases are subjective. The docs say they "suspect" the flavors. That means they don't know and it's their best guess.
Wouldn't it be easier just to *not* sub-ohm? Or am I missing something here?
Actually, I had the same experience as Shark Vape. But over the months everything cleared up, and I was even for the first time able to tolerate max VG. I do think it takes lungs a long time to heal after smoking, and subohm vaping seems to really tax misused lungs! I think the issue is more what keeps you interested enough not to smoke, and for some subohm seems to be the answer.Wouldn't it be easier just to *not* sub-ohm? Or am I missing something here?
I totally agree, which is why I'm always uneasy when nonsmokers take up vaping (although it's better than them taking up smoking if that's a risk).
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I haven't had so much as a cold since I started vaping a year ago, let alone the annual dose of walking pneumonia. As aforementioned, if the lungs are already damaged or in the process of healing, vaping can be a bit detrimental but it certainly isn't the main cause of lung issues.
I agree , I smoked Marlboro reds for 20+ years and always had a weezing/bronchial infection , I have vape for a couple of years and completely stopped smoking over a year ago after a cervical fusion . After 2 months passed my lungs cleared up and , no weezing or bronchitis since then , I am still hocking up some phlegm but my lung capacity increased by a factor of 20 and this I know because of a fit test I have to pass every year for hazmat certification . Where there are going to still be issues and no way to say it is 100% safe it is way better for me personally than the analog .
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Thanks, and wow Williams liquid. You know some cinnamon liquids can take off car paint.
Before subohming became popular, irritating stuff could just be puffed like a pipe or cigar, limiting any lung issues for the most part. I can't recommend that to someone doing lung inhales, so they may have to step back to a lower wattage puff to keep off the smokes.
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Seems the liquid in question Hawaiian blast. It is watermelon coconut cream and banana, so it would have nothing to do with the liquid then. Doctors can not find a cause so they just speculate.
Yep, they found oil or fatty substances in her lungs, so there's something other than that eliquid involved for sure.
I have a pretty bad sensitivity to certain flavorings, so I don't vape them. Vapers need a little common sense, as it's really not that hard to find flavors that work for you or unflavored. Too bad each incident involving ecigs is blasted in the press as if it's common. There are certainly issues for some of us and some flavors, but among millions of vapers they are pretty damn scarce.
Ditto.
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Glycerol is an alcohol with three carbons, five hydrogens, and three hydroxyl (OH) groups. Fatty acids have a long chain of hydrocarbons with a carboxyl group attached and may have 4-36 carbons; however, most of them have 12-18.
Yep I have Bronchitis now and the Doctor told me that vaping VG like I do and a bit of PG is no prob my problem was inflammation from other things.
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A triglyceride is a fat, no?
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Mabye you could mention this to maddcatt since this is determination and/or slander and will hurt his business? Maybe his lawyers can get his eliquid brand "maddcatt" name removed from the article.
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A poster mentioned there were fatty substances in her lungs...
Fatty substances for Lipid Pneumonia are oils, actual fats, et cetera. People who work near deep fryers are at enhanced risk of getting Lipid Pneumonia, that's why the restaurants have such powerful extraction hoods at the deep fryers.
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There's no telling what some vapers are being sold or inhaling...
Look any slander like that to maddcatt vapors pisses me off
they are the best store in this town and I would hate to see anything bad happen to them over bullshit like this. Maybe this woman is friends with the other vapor store in town.
But gee with so many people using maddcat juice including myself from time to time, I find it amazing that only this woman got sick off it.
they are the best store in this town and I would hate to see anything bad happen to them over bullshit like this. Maybe this woman is friends with the other vapor store in town.
But gee with so many people using maddcat juice including myself from time to time, I find it amazing that only this woman got sick off it.
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I have been saying this all day in the VU moderator Skype chat.
I also hope someone has contacted Maddcatt about these slanderous claims because this will hurt their business.
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HOLY fucking retarded picking and choosing horse shit that passes as reporting.
SO much fucking stupid, it fucking BURNS!
ok so all former smokers... one of the most toxic lung damaging things in this world.
Vaping juices in unknown devices.
Farmers lung could be from him being a nasty motherfucker living hoader's wet dream. VG and PG and both fungicides. More like he scorched the living hell out of his gear and sucked down burnt silica and or cotton.
those whining about allergic reactions... keep fucking vaping without narrowing shit down and carte blanch blame maddcatts. For fucks sake it reminds me of that scene where the bloated pig was in full anaphylactic shock while noming crab legs... when asked why she was doing it... her reply was she could help herself they tasted good.
Please Darwin step up your game, start with these retarded reporters, then the retards blaming their lung damage on vaping instead of tobacco.
SO much fucking stupid, it fucking BURNS!
ok so all former smokers... one of the most toxic lung damaging things in this world.
Vaping juices in unknown devices.
Farmers lung could be from him being a nasty motherfucker living hoader's wet dream. VG and PG and both fungicides. More like he scorched the living hell out of his gear and sucked down burnt silica and or cotton.
those whining about allergic reactions... keep fucking vaping without narrowing shit down and carte blanch blame maddcatts. For fucks sake it reminds me of that scene where the bloated pig was in full anaphylactic shock while noming crab legs... when asked why she was doing it... her reply was she could help herself they tasted good.
Please Darwin step up your game, start with these retarded reporters, then the retards blaming their lung damage on vaping instead of tobacco.
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More like they trust in others, and their own lies... repeat it till it is true.
I emailed them last night. I didn't get a reply, but I'm not expecting one, necessarily.
im form dundalk
used to have friends in overlea/rosedale. went to golden ring mall all the time and went to calvert hall and Towson university
now i live in cumberland
I'd either quit vaping or step back to... supra (?) ohm, before I'd resort to inhaling something to counteract inhaling something else.I absolutely believe it.
After 6 years of vaping cartos with clear lungs, I began wheezing (again) when I made the jump to sub-ohm vaping.
Had to go back on Advair too.
I think that, like smoking, it depends on a variety of factors. But, yes: For many (most?) people, in many (most?) cases: No, it's not (entirely) harmless.
Not entirely, for all people and all juices, it's not. Just greatly (something like 10:1, from what I've read) reduced.
I've got a touch of COPD from smoking for over 40 years, and I do sometimes notice a bit of lung congestion, the next morning, if I vape much the prior evening. I haven't gone sub ohm, yet. I'm wondering if I want to? I might even drop it entirely. Or at least cut way back. Thing is: I'm kind of enjoying playing with it
Yeah... there's a lot of things people should not do
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I lived off of Chesaco Ave and used to ride my bike to Golden Ring mall all the time back in the late 80's early 90's.
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