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  1. returnity

    returnity Member For 4 Years Member For 3 Years Member For 2 Years Member For 1 Year

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    Cinapple Fritter [DIYorDIE: returnity] -- Please rate on ELR
    • CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl - 5.00%
    • FLV Rich Cinnamon - 0.33%
    • FA Fuji - 4.00%
    • TFA Dragonfruit - 0.67%
    • TFA Bavarian Cream- 3.00%
    • FA Joy - 0.50%
    • FA Almond - 0.50%
    MaxVG4lyfe, 86% VG / 14% PG.

    Recipe Notes:

    This is the recipe I bought FA Joy to make: a legit apple fritter. Granted, it's had a long and tortured birth process, when Joy was not what I expected, but I adapted and reworked things, and after 2 complete-restarts & 7-8 versions, I've got something really close to amazing. Here's how it all comes together:

    CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl's doughy pastry notes get drawn out to the forefront brilliantly by FA Joy & FA Almond together, and the TFA Bavarian Cream adds a moist, textured mouthfeel and decadence to it.

    FA Fuji delivers perfectly on the Apple notes, as expected. I've considered several ways to enhance the apple component, including TFA/FA Apple Pie, TFA Pear, and TFA Dragonfruit (components list). I ended up going with TFA Dragonfruit for two reasons.

    One, it has a high % of triethyl citrate, which has emulsifying properties that are particularly useful in a mix like this, which has natural cinnamon flavors in it (ever notice how CAP Cinnamon Danish tends to separate in its bottle?). The second reason is basic Deeper DIY -- ethyl butyrate & isoamyl acetate, both found in TFA Dragonfruit, are complementary to FA Fuji, as both compounds are often used in apple and similar flavors themselves. Therefore, a touch of TFA Dragonfruit not only adds some extra juicy tartness to the apple filling flavor, it helps the cinnamon blend into the apple flavor, creating "Cinnamon Apples" instead of "Cinnamon + Apples", so to speak. FA MTS Vape Wizard can also help with this -- My DIYorDIE partner @wayne.walkerr once likened MTS to 'putting your ingredients in the blender' in his Boardwalk milkshake recipe, and I think that's fairly accurate.

    Speaking of cinnamon, Flavorah's Rich Cinnamon is unmatched by any other cinnamon flavors, and it really shines best in a bakery mix like this one. There's no substitute, so if you don't have it, get it -- but you can make this recipe without it. I feel that dropping it works better than trying to substitute FA Cinnamon Ceylon, which is painfully lackluster beside the FLV. My only regret? I can't use more Rich Cinnamon without overwhelming the balance of the recipe...

    Modifications & Tweaks:
    • No FLV Rich Cinnamon? Increase CAP CDS by 1-2% and leave it out, or substitute FA Cinnamon Ceylon at same %.
    • Too many ingredients? TFA Dragonfruit & FA Almond are highly-recommended but not strictly required.
    • Want even more doughy pastry? Add 1% FA Apple Pie or 2-3% TFA Apple Pie.
    • Swap CAP Cinnamon Danish for TFA Cinnamon Danish or FW Cinnamon Roll to get a different character of cinnamon-pastry.
    • Swap TFA Bavarian Cream for CAP Vanilla Custard - 2% or FLV Vanilla Custard - 1% to experiment with an eggier, fluffier type of pastry dough, instead of the gooey rich type.
    • Diketone-free version: This will clear the recipe of any unwanted baddies, but I haven't mixed it myself, so I can't promise it will be equally delicious, but it should still be good.
      • Swap CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl for CDS V2, same %.
      • Swap TFA Bavarian Cream for new CAP Bavarian Cream (no A/P or DA) or TFA's Bavarian Cream DX, same %. FLV Vanilla Custard at 1% might be an interesting sub too.
    If you do mix it up, with or without variations, please let us know! I hope you all enjoy this recipe as much as I enjoy this community.

    I've been compiling a bunch of my best recipes to post on DIYorDIE, along with a series of articles about DeeperDIY flavoring science & some other cool material I've put together over the years mixing. I promised to do this a while back when @wayne.walkerr and I started our DIY project together, but I've been lagging, but I'm not gonna let some NJ punk who goes by "YungLungz" outmix me!
     
  2. skeene

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    been checking out the diyordie site, I like it! thanks for sharing
     
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    KGuardian Silver Contributor Member For 4 Years

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    This looks like a well balanced, excellent recipe that I will have to try. And I love your break down and explanation of what went into your creating it.

    BTW... What do you recommend for steeping?
     
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    Wow! Very nice. Perfect descriptions of interactions of flavors and reasons why. All I can say is thank you. I love learning from others.
     
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    Good question, forgot to add that -- for this mix, I feel like it's best to give it a week to let the cinnamon sharpness settle a bit & blend with the other flavors, but it's very vapeable a day or two after mixing. I don't shake-and-vape anything right away any more, I give everything 24 hours to homogenize before I try it for the flavor molecules to reach a thermodynamic equilibrium in solution.

    Thanks! I can't take credit for that, it's @wayne.walkerr's project. He and I just collaborate a lot & we're working on a major DIY-related project together, so I figured why not start to share my recipes & resources on his platform?

    Thanks, I'm sure you know how many hours and hours go into all of this.
     
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  6. Mr Mixer

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    This recipe looks excelent, as soon as my fa joy gets here I will try it out, I also enjoy your great description of the flavor interactions.

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    I mixed this up last night. Going to let it sit for a week. I opened it up a little while ago to smell it and I wanted to lick the glass dropper, but resisted :D
     
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    All I can say is WOW! Thank you so much for sharing your recipes. And not only recipes but such excellent explanations on every aspect of the flavorings and why they are used. I just sat there and read thru all of them.
     
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    Excellent!!!!


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    Mixed this 6 days ago and gave it a try today. Mixed at 60vg/40pg. Very nice! The cinnamon is perfect for me and the apple is very well balanced with a nice juicy flavor. FA Joy doesn't work well for me as I get a 'flat beer' taste, but in this recipe I'm not getting that beer at all. I think the Cinnamon Danish Swirl and Fuji are masking the Joy in a good way. Well done @returnity !

    Edit: BTW...I mixed it using the exact ingredients that you posted. No subs...
     
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    Sorry to bump this old thread, but I finally got Fuji and gave this a shot. Its delicious. I already killed my 15 mL. I made your Rhodonite too. It also great. Thanks a lot.
     
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    Hi.. I see that you have talent for mixing.
    Maybe I could be so blessed to receive a quick tips from you guys?

    I am trying to mix up a apple pie RY4. Very simple..
    My recipe now is:

    10% TFA RY4 Double
    5% TFA Apple pie

    So war I like the flavor combination of this very much. Just one thing missing. A destinct pastry flavor note.. I am not sure how to get this pastry/bakery note.. Like one would get from a apple pie..
    Tried TFA Pie crust.. But it did not work for me. Now I did not steep it with the pie crust.
    But does the TFA pie crust change that much with steeping really? And could this be my answer?
    Or is there some better trick to achieve this?

    All help is appreciated!


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  13. bobnat

    bobnat VU Donator Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    This is by far my favorite juice. I have an Ijoy Combo that has not had anything but this in it for the last 5 months. I can vape this for 3-4 days, along with one or two other juices, then take 1-2 days off, then right back to it.

    Fantastic job on this.
     
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    This is a very good recipe, remember trying this months ago on ELR, one of the few highest rated recipes that I actually liked and thought worthy of the praise.
     
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    Agreed, very good recipe and I like to mix a batch of this to have on hand.
     
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    Is it possible to mute the cinnamon flavor, in cinnamon Danish swirl aroma?
    Asking because I need that flavor, without the darn cinnamon

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    Change that from apple pie TFA, to "Dutch Apple pie - Flavor West"

    So much better!

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