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That's quite a wide range of ohms! I think you'd probably be happy with it. The main problem with the istick 20W (for me) wasn't that it used PWM, but that it used the wrong calculations so ran too hot. It looks like the 50W uses the right calcs when it's using PWM - so setting and forgetting should be fine (and is, as far as I can tell from using it over a 0.5 to 2.2 ohm range). But it also looks like it uses PWM with low ohm coils (0.4 ohm was tested in that video tombaker posted) - I don't know at what ohms it starts doing that.
It's a big range because I circulate through a combination of RDAs, RTAs and clearos. I chain vape and go through approximately 300mls per month. In order to cut down on juice consumption I'll use a clearo but, meh, it mutes the flavor and the airflow. Today I filled my Kanger Subtank Mini at .5 ohms 3xs. That's 10-12 mls right there. And I'm going back and forth with my Nautilus. OK, I probably won't finish off the subtank tonight but still.
 

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iStick 50 Watt is now available on Longhorn Vapor for $74.99.

Let me know if anyone need 10% discount code for this product.
 
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So too everyone who has it.. Hows she fit in the hand. I find my istick 20watt to not be comfy in the hand.. And was thinking the 50watt would be perfecto. And perfect position on the fire button.
 

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So too everyone who has it.. Hows she fit in the hand. I find my istick 20watt to not be comfy in the hand.. And was thinking the 50watt would be perfecto. And perfect position on the fire button.
It's a great fit for my hand. I'm looking forward to some kind of rubberized skin though. With the 20w I could just rest it on top of my little finger to keep it from slipping out of my hand and the 50w is a bit too heavy for that. In theory I could just put it down between hits but that is difficult to do.
The button placement is awesome. Fire it with your index finger or the web of your thumb, your choice. The button is a little stiffer than my 20w was which is good. No pocket firings yet.
 

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A silicone skin would round it out nicely. The battery life, at least early on, is absurdly good.
 

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I dunno... on the 0.4 ohm, 40W, 4V trace it's still PWM, just with very little time at 0V:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DX_qdfTdNlU#t=982
Busardo interview is up on 50W. He has it at 3.86V and its doing PWM at 44hz, not 22K but very very little. Looks like at about 3.9 or 4V, it should be a flat line....a little wavvy, but flat. He talks about the rattlesnake sound often, but that has never been my issue, just the taste factor of PWM, when it fires too hot.

The next step up to a DNA 40 or SX Mini with with true step down buck boost is about 4 times the price. I hear some think specific clones have boost buck step down.....but would never be sure unless its benched.

I could live with a SVD 2.0 in a smaller than MVP 3 form factor
 

muth

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So too everyone who has it.. Hows she fit in the hand. I find my istick 20watt to not be comfy in the hand.. And was thinking the 50watt would be perfecto. And perfect position on the fire button.
Much better than the 20w. Plus you can turn the display 180 degrees. So if you have it in your left hand with index finger on the trigger you just have to look down to see the display without twisting your hand around. Or your heado_O
 

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Busardo interview is up on 50W. He has it at 3.86V and its doing PWM at 44hz, not 22K but very very little. Looks like at about 3.9 or 4V, it should be a flat line....a little wavvy, but flat. He talks about the rattlesnake sound often, but that has never been my issue, just the taste factor of PWM, when it fires too hot.

The next step up to a DNA 40 or SX Mini with with true step down buck boost is about 4 times the price. I hear some think specific clones have boost buck step down.....but would never be sure unless its benched.

I could live with a SVD 2.0 in a smaller than MVP 3 form factor
Thanks, I was waiting for that.
 

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What will temp control mean for my vape?

I noticed that on my other regulated devices at the same power, with the same tank and build I'll get the beginning of a dry hit at some point. But at the same setting on my 50W I don't. Why is that?
 

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Will they ever make isticks with dna40's? That will be the day...


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What do you mean early on? Have you had it that long enough?
A week now. Just that it was pretty damn slow to drop the battery meter and I wasn't sure if that would accelerate once it did start dropping. I got it Thursday afternoon and it still showed two bars when I plugged the charger in the following Wednesday morning. Works for me.
 

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The 50watt iStick is just great! Pair it with a Kanger Subtank Mini, and it's SubOhm vaping heaven.
I bought an Aspire CF SubOhm battery, too, and it can easily handle my Kanger Subtank Mini...great battery, too. ..
Someone said they paid $75 for the 50w iStick, and that is to much. I paid $55 for the full kit, which includes a wall charger, USB charger, and the 50watt iStick at www.Sweet-Vapes.com.
 

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Busardo interview is up on 50W. He has it at 3.86V and its doing PWM at 44hz, not 22K but very very little. Looks like at about 3.9 or 4V, it should be a flat line....a little wavvy, but flat. He talks about the rattlesnake sound often, but that has never been my issue, just the taste factor of PWM, when it fires too hot.

The next step up to a DNA 40 or SX Mini with with true step down buck boost is about 4 times the price. I hear some think specific clones have boost buck step down.....but would never be sure unless its benched.

I could live with a SVD 2.0 in a smaller than MVP 3 form factor

Must admit I'm not bothered by PWM - as long as it's set with RMS calcs. Since the istick 50W uses RMS, that's fine for me. Mostly though, I'm using it with coils I built for mechs, setting it around 4V, and enjoying the DC with no fade :)

The 22k I saw was the operating frequency of the DC-DC converter of the istick 30W, at 3V, with about 1.2 ohms. As I noted in a later post, when the 30W uses PWM it is low speed.

The interesting question is when the 50W switches from PWM to DC. Did pbusardo say what ohms he was using for those scope traces? I didn't catch it. (I know he was using various ohms for the voltage and power accuracy tests, but looks like only one when he showed the PWM and DC traces).

My theory is that the DC-DC converter they have can buck, but is only able to do it within a certain range of current outputs. When the current demand is lower, it seems it can do DC to a lower voltage. That explains the difference on the german video between 0.4 and 1.9 ohm coils (and also the ripply output I saw on the 30W, right at the edge of its DC area). So there isn't a single voltage where it changes from PWM to DC, possibly many, and it isn't quite as simple as boost=DC, buck=PWM.
 

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At ~4v it goes to a flat signal..
 

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I paid $70 in store


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A week now. Just that it was pretty damn slow to drop the battery meter and I wasn't sure if that would accelerate once it did start dropping. I got it Thursday afternoon and it still showed two bars when I plugged the charger in the following Wednesday morning. Works for me.
That's amazing. I used it pretty heavily before and after work and only got 2 days from the initial charge it came at. Started again this morning after charging all night. Maybe it will last longer. Hitting at 17 watts with a 1.3 ohm coil.

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That's amazing. I used it pretty heavily before and after work and only got 2 days from the initial charge it came at. Started again this morning after charging all night. Maybe it will last longer. Hitting at 17 watts with a 1.3 ohm coil.

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I topped the charge off as soon as I unboxed it. Didn't use it exclusively but quite a bit. Aside from one test at 50w and a little bit at 23w it was mostly tanks at 12-15w. I was mainly looking for the extra battery capacity so I'm pleased.
 

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What's the best rda for this beast?


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What's the best rda for this beast?


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Everything I've used on it has worked a treat. But my Marquis works and looks great.
 

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Waiting for my iStick 50w+Melo+Coils+Juice+Drip Tip...hopefully Sat or maybe sooner.
 

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I've beat mine up quite a bit with a .3 Ohm Dual Coil Lemo. Still works like a champ, get a full day of vaping at .3, 2 days at .8, almost 3 at 1.5. Charges fast from 0 bars.
 

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I've beat mine up quite a bit with a .3 Ohm Dual Coil Lemo. Still works like a champ, get a full day of vaping at .3, 2 days at .8, almost 3 at 1.5. Charges fast from 0 bars.

Great to hear!
 

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Since my iStick is black, I have a black Steamboat V2. One of the better flavor/cloud producers. The sweet spot seems to be 43 watts at .3 with the Steamboat IMHO.
 

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Anybody has a rda/ istick pic? Thinking about the magma or another plume veil


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Since my iStick is black, I have a black Steamboat V2. One of the better flavor/cloud producers. The sweet spot seems to be 43 watts at .3 with the Steamboat IMHO.
I've wondered why no one has made an atty in a matching blue or fuchsia.
 

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I've wondered why no one has made an atty in a matching blue or fuchsia.

I've seen rainbows of color of clones on eBay. I think I have seen a blue tugboat though.


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I like the Olive Green :)
 

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That blue tuggie might work. But not sure any match the fuchsia.
 

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Yea, I just got a big shipment of flavors and am set for a while. Mint Mocha Tiramisu - Next on the mixing list.
 

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Thanks everyone for all the great info on this mod. I'm thinking of getting one, just wondering how long it takes the battery to charge from empty or almost empty.
 

M5amhan

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Thanks everyone for all the great info on this mod. I'm thinking of getting one, just wondering how long it takes the battery to charge from empty or almost empty.
it takes 5 hours to charge from empty but depending on your ohms it can last around 3 days. i just leave it on the charger overnight when it gets empty, some dont like doing that but most everything has overcharge protection and ive never had a problem
 

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it takes 5 hours to charge from empty but depending on your ohms it can last around 3 days. i just leave it on the charger overnight when it gets empty, some dont like doing that but most everything has overcharge protection and ive never had a problem
You just sold me!

Due to the size of these batteries, I thought they would take like 8 or 10 hours to charge from empty and have been avoiding getting one since I figured they would never be charged by the time I took them off the charger in the morning since I usually only get about 5-6 hours of sleep each night M-F.
 

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You just sold me!

Due to the size of these batteries, I thought they would take like 8 or 10 hours to charge from empty and have been avoiding getting one since I figured they would never be charged by the time I took them off the charger in the morning since I usually only get about 5-6 hours of sleep each night M-F.
They would take almost 8 hrs if all the mah were used, but since we train down to about 40%, it only takes about 4 ;)
 

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Been using my iStick 50w since March 6, 2015 , 2:20 pm and I outta state that this device is amazingly awesome...

  • Weight...practical and reasonable
  • Balance...tested and it passed even with a Eleaf Melo Sub-Ohm Tank full of juice plus Bent Glass Drip-Tip
  • Quality Control...passed with clouds
  • Ease of use...simply way to easy
  • Longevity of batteries...came completely charged...almost 2 full days and not even at 70%
  • Buttons...Up/Down buttons have no issues...Trigger Button needs a firm press and the ever so slightest pressure release will make it cut out
  • Finish...meh, don't care since it's a disposable
  • Screen...only issue on mine at least is when I flip the screen, the battery icon is slightly covered but meh
  • Form Factor...IMHO, it's as natural as it gets for my hands...extremely comfortable
  • Self-Defense Purposes...headshot would hurt with this thing
  • Stealth Mode...meh, I don't venture outside much but when I do...no fucks are given other than complying with said businesses stated rules
  • Cost...got it for $50.95 from http://sweet-vapes.com/ ...50w's for $50.95 is robbery
  • Um, don't have to worry about swapping batteries and all that ish
  • Currently vaping at 36w's w/0.6ohm Eleaf Melo Sub Ohm Coils (O.C.) in a Eleaf Melo Sub Ohm Tank w/rotation of Monkey Shine/Real Cig/Blueberry Shisha at 12mg 50/50 from http://www.vaperstek.org/
  • Completely satisfying vaping pleasure with absolutely no buyers remorse

Highly recommended...

Off-topic...The Eleaf Melo Sub Ohm Tank magically disappears juice while not vaping like there is a blackhole in it.

EDIT: I haven't shut off the device yet either...just locked on the settings I enjoy atm.
 
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These batteries are rather bitchin, the battery icon level still hasn't moved from roughly 70% and I've been steadily vaping for 48+ hours now in which my iStick 20w would've been dead by now...I am seriously in love!
 

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72 hours of runtime is what I got from factory full charge and it has been on the charger now for awhile now (forgot when I put it on...lol), impressive.
 

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