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They were all US citizens. They would live in trailers at the prison and go home on weekends the average salary was 32 k . Being in NYC it was not a good life for anyone but they had a community and were happy, I guess life in Russia was much much worse .


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so as long as it is worse somewhere else?

and if they are US citizens then they are not Russians.
 

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And yes most countries are worse then ours . Why do you think everyone wants in ?!!!


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And yes most countries are worse then ours . Why do you think everyone wants in ?!!!


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Most country's, yes.
So just because their country is worse we should let them in?
or we should let them in because they will work shit jobs for shit pay?
 

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Most country's, yes.
So just because their country is worse we should let them in?
or we should let them in because they will work shit jobs for shit pay?

No they should be let in because they are hard working and want to be American. Because they appreciate the gift of America, because they contribute because they are working even if it sucks to provide a better life for their children . They came legally, and work like dogs instead of abuse a system that they don’t contribute too .
It is about the content of their character not the color of their skin .

That’s why !!


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No they should be let in because they are hard working and want to be American. Because they appreciate the gift of America, because they contribute because they are working even if it sucks to provide a better life for their children . They came legally, and work like dogs instead of abuse a system that they don’t contribute too .
It is about the content of their character not the color of their skin .

That’s why !!


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Agree.
As long as they become Americans and do not remain Russians.

WE do not need part of Russia being here, this is Merica!

ps. The skintone does matter to many....
 

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Agree.
As long as they become Americans and do not remain Russians.

WE do not need part of Russia being here, this is Merica!

It doesn’t matter where you come from or what color you are or god you worship as long as your here to be American follow the law and contribute. People bust on people from India owning 7/11s . It’s fuckin hard work running a 24/7 store these people live the store .


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It doesn’t matter where you come from or what color you are or god you worship as long as your here to be American follow the law and contribute. People bust on people from India owning 7/11s . It’s fuckin hard work running a 24/7 store these people live the store .


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No disagreement from me.
But many have issues with darker skin tones.
That IS a fact.
And some have issues with lighter skin tones.

Ahh the caste system in India seems to be based on skintones....
And there is the you are not black enough ones too....

My point is that anyone coming here should work to blend in here not just bring their country/culture with them.
 

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No they should be let in because they are hard working and want to be American. Because they appreciate the gift of America, because they contribute because they are working even if it sucks to provide a better life for their children . They came legally, and work like dogs instead of abuse a system that they don’t contribute too .
It is about the content of their character not the color of their skin .

That’s why !!


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Strange. I grew up in and spent most of my life in N.Virginia, less that 30 min outside of DC. Many people do not know this, but n. va has a very large south american population; mainly from el salvador and honduras. We also had quite a sizable amount of MS13. In fact, the famous case of the where a member had their arm hacked off happened right behind the condo my family and I moved from just a couple of years ago (that occured years before we lived there). And aside from the very small number of bad apples, the south americans were hard working, family oriented people who were an important part of the community. They ran businesses, bought homes, cars and basically became an integral part of the economy. They worked like dogs, the appreciated the country just as anyone else and wanted to be Americans. If that's the standard, they should be able to stay as well.
 

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Strange. I grew up in and spent most of my life in N.Virginia, less that 30 min outside of DC. Many people do not know this, but n. va has a very large south american population; mainly from el salvador and honduras. We also had quite a sizable amount of MS13. In fact, the famous case of the where a member had their arm hacked off happened right behind the condo my family and I moved from just a couple of years ago (that occured years before we lived there). And aside from the very small number of bad apples, the south americans were hard working, family oriented people who were an important part of the community. They ran businesses, bought homes, cars and basically became an integral part of the economy. They worked like dogs, the appreciated the country just as anyone else and wanted to be Americans. If that's the standard, they should be able to stay as well.

Ahh you said what I was trying to say much better than I could.
 

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Ahh you said what I was trying to say much better than I could.
I'm sure I will get flamed for it and called every name in the book but that's my experience, can't speak for other places. I just know that most of them were like my family that came here. They were not part of some globalist plot to destroy the fabric of American culture or identity, they were just good, hard working people who wanted a better life for their children. I'm yet to experience the throngs of bloodthirsty, rape happy illegals who scam the system despite a big fat check from George Soros. I agree we should have a strong immigration policy and people should come here legally. I also know that corrupt politicians have used this issue to cause divisions and pass blame since the beginning of time.
 

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No disagreement from me.
But many have issues with darker skin tones.
That IS a fact.
And some have issues with lighter skin tones.

Ahh the caste system in India seems to be based on skintones....
And there is the you are not black enough ones too....

My point is that anyone coming here should work to blend in here not just bring their country/culture with them.

I think I know one person


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Just watched a very insecure Oprah Winfrey, who at one point I knew very well, interview a panel of people on 60 Minutes. The questions were biased and slanted, the facts incorrect. Hope Oprah runs so she can be exposed and defeated just like all of the others!



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Never was impressed with Oprah.

From a news headline clip I read Trump apparently watched her thing :)

Or perhaps he was just parroting a Fox news commentary?
 

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Strange. I grew up in and spent most of my life in N.Virginia, less that 30 min outside of DC. Many people do not know this, but n. va has a very large south american population; mainly from el salvador and honduras. We also had quite a sizable amount of MS13. In fact, the famous case of the where a member had their arm hacked off happened right behind the condo my family and I moved from just a couple of years ago (that occured years before we lived there). And aside from the very small number of bad apples, the south americans were hard working, family oriented people who were an important part of the community. They ran businesses, bought homes, cars and basically became an integral part of the economy. They worked like dogs, the appreciated the country just as anyone else and wanted to be Americans. If that's the standard, they should be able to stay as well.

I agree if they came legally, and are citizens. the ones killing people have to be removed from society like anyone else that does that .


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I'm sure I will get flamed for it and called every name in the book but that's my experience, can't speak for other places. I just know that most of them were like my family that came here. They were not part of some globalist plot to destroy the fabric of American culture or identity, they were just good, hard working people who wanted a better life for their children. I'm yet to experience the throngs of bloodthirsty, rape happy illegals who scam the system despite a big fat check from George Soros. I agree we should have a strong immigration policy and people should come here legally. I also know that corrupt politicians have used this issue to cause divisions and pass blame since the beginning of time.

Ahh but finding a group to hate is a tool used for control as old as humans themselves.
Humans....
 

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I agree if they came legally, and are citizens. the ones killing people have to be removed from society like anyone else that does that .


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Ahh but only punishing the guilty is a more complex thing, much easier to just lump all the Hispanics, Blacks, Whites, Indians, Muslims, Christians, Jews, etc together.

Really understanding the problem and correcting the root of it's issues is beyond the comprehension level of most it seems.
 

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Ahh but only punishing the guilty is a more complex thing, much easier to just lump all the Hispanics, Blacks, Whites, Indians, Muslims, Christians, Jews, etc together.

Really understanding the problem and correcting the root of it's issues is beyond the comprehension level of most it seems.

I don’t think so you commit a crime you get punished very simple .

So your going with every Italian is in the mafia ? Every Irish is in the Westies ? Every Jew is a money lender ? Every white is in Aryan brotherhood?


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I'm sure I will get flamed for it and called every name in the book but that's my experience, can't speak for other places. I just know that most of them were like my family that came here. They were not part of some globalist plot to destroy the fabric of American culture or identity, they were just good, hard working people who wanted a better life for their children. I'm yet to experience the throngs of bloodthirsty, rape happy illegals who scam the system despite a big fat check from George Soros. I agree we should have a strong immigration policy and people should come here legally. I also know that corrupt politicians have used this issue to cause divisions and pass blame since the beginning of time.

So they were not legal ? Is that what your saying ?


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I don’t think so you commit a crime you get punished very simple .

So your going with every Italian is in the mafia ? Every Irish is in the Westies ? Every Jew is a money lender ? Every white is in Aryan brotherhood?


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Sorry you inverted what I actually said.
 

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Strange. I grew up in and spent most of my life in N.Virginia, less that 30 min outside of DC. Many people do not know this, but n. va has a very large south american population; mainly from el salvador and honduras. We also had quite a sizable amount of MS13. In fact, the famous case of the where a member had their arm hacked off happened right behind the condo my family and I moved from just a couple of years ago (that occured years before we lived there). And aside from the very small number of bad apples, the south americans were hard working, family oriented people who were an important part of the community. They ran businesses, bought homes, cars and basically became an integral part of the economy. They worked like dogs, the appreciated the country just as anyone else and wanted to be Americans. If that's the standard, they should be able to stay as well.

That is the standard for a legal immigrant. Nobody has issues with legal immigrants, from anywhere.

By definition, an illegal immigrant does not meet the standard. They have broken many laws. And it doesn't matter what country they came from. They should NOT be allowed to break the law and stay.

I'm not sure why some people can't make the distinction between legal and illegal. It's a significant piece of fact. ;)
 

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No they should be let in because they are hard working and want to be American. Because they appreciate the gift of America, because they contribute because they are working even if it sucks to provide a better life for their children . They came legally, and work like dogs instead of abuse a system that they don’t contribute too .
It is about the content of their character not the color of their skin .

That’s why !!


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, If they broke the laws a free people voted on..they are scum absolute scum..the people of this nation have reserved the right to self determination not to have their voice stolen by illegal scum,the Chamber of Commerce, the DNC, or globalist new world order overlords who want to destroy the nation state....anyone here illegally should be kicked out and their petition to be a citizen permenatly ignored...there are thousands and thousands of good people who have respectfully obeyed our laws and respectfully petitioned us for the privledge of being an Americans these people should not be penalized for respecting our people and nation.these are exactlly the kinds of people who should IF the citizens think it wise, to allow to emigrate not the scum who blow across the border illegally.they are criminals and should be treated as such....the only time libtards like Crummie give a damn about brown people is when they can exploit them...for cheap labor or votes....no person on this planet has a right to emmigrate here ...that decision is reserved for the citizens of America to make in their own best interests..not the interests of forgien nationals.their opinions of our immigration policy is irrelevant.
 
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, If they broke the laws a free people voted on..they are scum absolute scum..the people of this nation have reserved the right to self determination not to have their voice stolen by illegal scum,the Chamber of Commerce, the DNC, or globalist new world order overlords who want to destroy the nation state....anyone here illegally should be kicked out and their petition to be a citizen permenatly ignored...there are thousands and thousands of good people who have respectfully obeyed our laws and respectfully petitioned us for the privledge of being an Americans these people should not be penalized for respecting our people and nation.these are exactlly the kinds of people who should IF the citizens think it wise, to allow to emigrate not the scum who blow across the border illegally.they are criminals and should be treated as such....the only time libtards like Crummie give a damn about brown people is when they can exploit them...for cheap labor or votes....no person on this planet has a right to emmigrate here ...that decision is reserved for the citizens of America to make in their own best interests..not the interests of forgien nationals.their opinions of our immigration policy is irrelevant.

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go fuck yourself.

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@HillaryClinton had a $1.2 billion campaign, #FakePolls, @TheJusticeDept & @FBI in her pocket and 24/7 sycophantic #Media coverage, yet she still lost to a $2 million campaign by trolls that post funny memes about her on Facebook and Twitter?

This is called ‘desperation”.


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@HillaryClinton had a $1.2 billion campaign, #FakePolls, @TheJusticeDept & @FBI in her pocket and 24/7 sycophantic #Media coverage, yet she still lost to a $2 million campaign by trolls that post funny memes about her on Facebook and Twitter?

This is called ‘desperation”.


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and you voted for her .....
 

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@HillaryClinton had a $1.2 billion campaign, #FakePolls, @TheJusticeDept & @FBI in her pocket and 24/7 sycophantic #Media coverage, yet she still lost to a $2 million campaign by trolls that post funny memes about her on Facebook and Twitter?

This is called ‘desperation”.


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Only 2 million spent on Trumps campaign?
Heck he loaned himself more than that I think.
And he is still campaigning raising money.
 

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Heck I voted for an even bigger idiot, Johnson. However it was a protest vote no way he would win.
A green party candidate would win before Johnson :)
That would be fun to watch if one did win.
 

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WASHINGTON/NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. President-elect Donald Trump pumped a total of $66 million of his own money into his campaign - far from the $100 million he frequently boasted he was going to spend, according to campaign finance disclosures filed on Thursday night.

In total, Trump raised $339 million and spent $322 million - a far cry from the $565 million spent by Clinton, according to the latest Federal Election Commission disclosure reports. Trump spent $94 million in the final days of the campaign, compared with the $132 million spent by Clinton.
 

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WASHINGTON/NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. President-elect Donald Trump pumped a total of $66 million of his own money into his campaign - far from the $100 million he frequently boasted he was going to spend, according to campaign finance disclosures filed on Thursday night.

In total, Trump raised $339 million and spent $322 million - a far cry from the $565 million spent by Clinton, according to the latest Federal Election Commission disclosure reports. Trump spent $94 million in the final days of the campaign, compared with the $132 million spent by Clinton.

Oh really?!


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WASHINGTON/NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. President-elect Donald Trump pumped a total of $66 million of his own money into his campaign - far from the $100 million he frequently boasted he was going to spend, according to campaign finance disclosures filed on Thursday night.

In total, Trump raised $339 million and spent $322 million - a far cry from the $565 million spent by Clinton, according to the latest Federal Election Commission disclosure reports. Trump spent $94 million in the final days of the campaign, compared with the $132 million spent by Clinton.

But Clinton was spending Russian money not hers . Or maybe the money they raised for Hati .


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But Clinton was spending Russian money not hers . Or maybe the money they raised for Hati .


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Proof?
Or fake news?

And that does nothing to diminish trumps lies.
Even if true.
 

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Proof?
Or fake news?

And that does nothing to diminish trumps lies.
Even if true.

Trump expands on the truth like every president ever . Even the president of the company I work for lies constantly. Once he says no layoffs there are layoffs .


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Trump expands on the truth like every president ever . Even the president of the company I work for lies constantly. Once he says no layoffs there are layoffs .


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But everyone does it mom!
 

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Trump expands on the truth like every president ever . Even the president of the company I work for lies constantly. Once he says no layoffs there are layoffs .


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And that’s why he’s getting fuck


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I have no respect at all for habitual liars.

Trump has brought presidential lying to highest ever levels for a US president.

something like 2+ per day.
And most of them just to boost his fragile ego.
 
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