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Iran is going to blow up the world? Are you going by thier track record of invading other countries and starting wars? Oh wait...

No I'm going by them being the largest sponsor of terror in the world and their hatred of western culture . Oh and the usual rallies when they shout death to America and death to Israel..... you twit go tell your clever little remarks to a vet with no legs thanks to Iranian ordnance.


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But the smartest president ever drew a line in the sand and did nothing ?


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And just who would be the smartest president ever?


It sure as hell was not the last one or the few before that.
 

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The smartest man in the world Obama


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And obviously judged by his enemies to be the most powerful president ever. He was responsible for everything bad.

Obama sucked, however he is smarter than the one we have now.
Who also sucks.

but Obama as the smartest president ever? Naah.
 

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And obviously judged by his enemies to be the most powerful president ever. He was responsible for everything bad.

Obama sucked, however he is smarter than the one we have now.
Who also sucks.

but Obama as the smartest president ever? Naah.

OBAMA is what you call a
"PIMP"... he pimp his way up to 2nd term...
smartest? NOPE!
Manipulator? HELL YEAH!


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I remember the unfounded and unbridled enthusiasm and optimism here in the Gulf when Obama was elected. There are people, literally, from the entire world living here. From Gulf and non-Gulf Arabs, Europeans, East, Southeast and Southwestern Asians, Africans, Americans (all of the Americas) and everyone else, he was the messiah. I guess most figured he had to be better than Bush. But it was the belief that Obama would usher in, basically, a new world order. That things in the Middle East and Afghanistan would be addressed and fixed. That the world would have their faith in the US restored by a more peaceful and respectful approach to the world by the US. I tried to explain to people that the US system just didn't work that way, but no one listened, including many Americans I know.

After Obama's "line in the sand" failure, most of the Arabs realized that he was useless to them. After his approach and concessions to the Iranians, the Arabs began to fear for their future. Whatever any Westerners believe, the Arabs see the rise of Iranian influence in the region as an existential threat, and rightly so. Just like most Americans are decent people who only want to live in peace and prosperity, so goes the Arab world, as well as the rest. Eventually, most of the people here came to realize that, in line with their expectations in 2008, Obama was a failure.

As Americans should know, there are 3 groups of presidents that fit a bell curve. The upper group are the small handful that had a long-term and positive effect on their times and the future. The lower group were just useless and perhaps even harmful, but certainly useless to the future, other than as cautionary warnings. The vast majority are in the middle and they were adequate caretakers of the nation, which is just fine. I believe that in 50 years from now Obama will be seen in the small grouping of "bad" presidents, one who left things in worse shape than when he began, one who didn't take advantage of events, one who was ineffectual in virtually every aspect during his terms and in some cases, even harmful.

It was with deja vu, a certain amount of bemusement and exasperated resignation, that I watched the unfounded and unbridled dismay, concern and even fear that the people here expressed with the election of Trump. Many felt that it was the worst thing to happen in the US since they don't know when. However, most of the Arabs felt that he had to be better than Obama and from their perspective he very well might be. Time will tell. One thing for certain is that people aren't going to change very much. We like division and distinctions among ourselves, even in the smallest of groupings. We don't like other's opinions and we basically fear change and each other. If we truly were a rational and logical, we would not be repeating the same behavior and mistakes time and time again.

We have met the enemy and he is us.
 

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I remember the unfounded and unbridled enthusiasm and optimism here in the Gulf when Obama was elected. There are people, literally, from the entire world living here. From Gulf and non-Gulf Arabs, Europeans, East, Southeast and Southwestern Asians, Africans, Americans (all of the Americas) and everyone else, he was the messiah. I guess most figured he had to be better than Bush. But it was the belief that Obama would usher in, basically, a new world order. That things in the Middle East and Afghanistan would be addressed and fixed. That the world would have their faith in the US restored by a more peaceful and respectful approach to the world by the US. I tried to explain to people that the US system just didn't work that way, but no one listened, including many Americans I know.

After Obama's "line in the sand" failure, most of the Arabs realized that he was useless to them. After his approach and concessions to the Iranians, the Arabs began to fear for their future. Whatever any Westerners believe, the Arabs see the rise of Iranian influence in the region as an existential threat, and rightly so. Just like most Americans are decent people who only want to live in peace and prosperity, so goes the Arab world, as well as the rest. Eventually, most of the people here came to realize that, in line with their expectations in 2008, Obama was a failure.

As Americans should know, there are 3 groups of presidents that fit a bell curve. The upper group are the small handful that had a long-term and positive effect on their times and the future. The lower group were just useless and perhaps even harmful, but certainly useless to the future, other than as cautionary warnings. The vast majority are in the middle and they were adequate caretakers of the nation, which is just fine. I believe that in 50 years from now Obama will be seen in the small grouping of "bad" presidents, one who left things in worse shape than when he began, one who didn't take advantage of events, one who was ineffectual in virtually every aspect during his terms and in some cases, even harmful.

It was with deja vu, a certain amount of bemusement and exasperated resignation, that I watched the unfounded and unbridled dismay, concern and even fear that the people here expressed with the election of Trump. Many felt that it was the worst thing to happen in the US since they don't know when. However, most of the Arabs felt that he had to be better than Obama and from their perspective he very well might be. Time will tell. One thing for certain is that people aren't going to change very much. We like division and distinctions among ourselves, even in the smallest of groupings. We don't like other's opinions and we basically fear change and each other. If we truly were a rational and logical, we would not be repeating the same behavior and mistakes time and time again.

We have met the enemy and he is us.





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Apparently anything negative that is happening to trump or to the world is HRC fault... that bitch never stops!!


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Considering she is essentially the Public face of the Bush Crime Family & the Rothchild's - Yes. She is responsible for much of the MSM bull and coordination of inter-agency rebellion in government while her attack dog Mueller does his dirty work.

She aint alone though. Dick Cheney is still the one in charge of MJ12 that is the real power pulling the strings behind the curtain & we all know he is the one with unfettered access to the weather weapons, lasers & DEW from the sky, & the SSP fleet. He was 9-11. He thinks nothing of attacking Americans with the very weapons we developed & paid for to defend America.
 
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Considering she is essentially the Public face of the Bush Crime Family & the Rothchild's - Yes.

She aint alone though. Dick Cheney is still the one in charge of MJ12 that is the real power pulling the strings behind the curtain & we all know he is the one with unfettered access to the weather weapons, lasers & DEW from the sky, & the SSP fleet. He was 9-11.
MJ12 ? As in the majesty 12? I'm pretty sure that's one of the top secret documents that bill cooper conveniently saw in the navy. He later claimed it was a hoax after it was debunked.
 

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MJ12 ? As in the majesty 12? I'm pretty sure that's one of the top secret documents that bill cooper conveniently saw in the navy. He later claimed it was a hoax after it was debunked.
And you believe that huh?
 

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And our presidents spokesperson calls for a woman to be fired from her job for calling the president a white supremacist.

What happened to American principles?
Why are we now so much more of a totalitarian state?

I know!
It's Obama's fault!
Or Hillarys....

And the same official spokesperson for our president said that with Trumps one deal with the Democrats he has shown more bi-partisanship than Obama did in 8 years....
I think she is a partisan idiot that would fit right in on Fox.
 

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Easier to believe than a secret government that negotiates with aliens. I'd love to get that ambassadorship to the planet zeptar. How do I get line for that?

Btw - majesty 12 came out after BC claimed to have seen it in the navy.
 

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Easier to believe than a secret government that negotiates with aliens. I'd love to get that ambassadorship to the planet zeptar. How do I get line for that?

Btw - majesty 12 came out after BC claimed to have seen it in the navy.
No intelligent life in the universe that is capable of interstellar travel wants to have any association with humans.
Too primitive and barbaric of a culture.

Humans are just lucky that no other species interested in humans as a food source have found Earth.
 

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Easier to believe than a secret government that negotiates with aliens. I'd love to get that ambassadorship to the planet zeptar. How do I get line for that?

Btw - majesty 12 came out after BC claimed to have seen it in the navy.
The space shuttle is the pinnacle of human space flight, TR3Bs don't exist, & we are the only intelligent life in the universe huh?

Satellite photos of Harvey with DEW pinholes appearing just before a massive eruption of moisture & power in the storm were just a coincidence.

Sounds like you blew the interview for the job already.
 

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I believe In aliens or some other life form for sure. However, any being that could reach earth has nothing to learn or gain from coming here. Do you stop and look and every ant hill you pass?
 

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I believe In aliens or some other life form for sure. However, any being that could reach earth has nothing to learn or gain from coming here. Do you stop and look and every ant hill you pass?
No I don't but I know a few that take perverse pleasure stomping on them when they see them. Far as I'm concerned unless they are stomping through my living room uninvited - live & let live.

Everything has a certain value or can be exploited in some way. Our own 1% have proven that time & again. Humans must have some value, even if it is only as farm animals or forced labor. Why should Aliens think altogether differently from those in charge on earth? At the very least when a species develops ICBMs & Nuclear warheads others would be prudent to monitor & intervene if necessary - just like we do with the NorKs.

Plenty of photographic evidence of more advanced things flying around our skies to totally dismiss the concept out of hand.
 
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No I don't but I know a few that take perverse pleasure stomping on them when they see them. Far as I'm concerned unless they are stomping through my living room uninvited - live & let live.

Everything has a certain value or can be exploited in some way. Our own 1% have proven that time & again. Humans must have some value, even if it is only as farm animals. Why should Aliens think altogether differently from those in charge on earth? At the very least when a species develops ICBMs & Nuclear warheads others would be prudent to monitor & intervene if necessary - just like we do with the NorKs.

Plenty of photographic evidence of more advanced things flying around our skies to totally dismiss the concept out of hand.

You could be right. I can't know for sure. I'm not trying to call you out, it just seems a bit sensational for me to believe. to be honest, I'm fascinated by space and the other planets, I'd love to experience that on some level one day. Whether it's a glimpse at an actual life form (not a microorganism) or a visit from one.
 

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I am the only being authorized to study the human culture.
There are no others here.
 

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You could be right. I can't know for sure. I'm not trying to call you out, it just seems a bit sensational for me to believe. to be honest, I'm fascinated by space and the other planets, I'd love to experience that on some level one day. Whether it's a glimpse at an actual life form (not a microorganism) or a visit from one.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7zc2G4knipcdy16c29ZNzZtbWs

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7zc2G4knipca0RaMENJYzVzT3M

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7zc2G4knipcRHFzQzFnVEQ3aWc
 
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or Republicans like our VP.
both parties want more money the only difference is what to spend it on.
And neither side can balance the books.
 

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FUCKING DEMOCRATS!!


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And getting approved by the republican Senate. New York just added e cigarettes to the clean air act bill that passed in 03.

In 2016 86% of all tobacco super pac contributions went to the Republican party. You dont think they have a dog in this fight? What about the southern states where it's grown?
 

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And getting approved by the republican Senate. New York just added e cigarettes to the clean air act bill that passed in 03.

In 2016 86% of all tobacco super pac contributions went to the Republican party. You dont think they have a dog in this fight? What about the southern states where it's grown?
Actually that is not true the Conneticut Senate is split evenly between Republicans and Democrats...the war on vaping has been overwhelmingly pushed by democrats and their nanny state utopian bullshit shell game, vapings few defenders have been overwhelmingly Republican...just saying.
 

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Actually that is not true the Conneticut Senate is split evenly between Republicans and Democrats...the war on vaping has been overwhelmingly pushed by democrats and their nanny state utopian bullshit shell game, vapings few defenders have been overwhelmingly Republican...just saying.
New York has a majority Republican senate. Like I said, they added it to the clean air act bill. The money grab is on both sides.
 

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New York has a majority Republican senate. Like I said, they added it to the clean air act bill. The money grab is on both sides.
lame....across America the war on vaping as been led by Democrats and the few defenders have all been republicans... now that may not suit your party loyalties but it is just the way it is.... if you have a problem with that you may want address that to the DNC instead of expecting the world to ignore the facts......hey while you're at it could you ask them where the buried Seth Rich's body.


The E-Cig Industry's Favorite Congressman Doesn't Even Vape
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...-doesnt-even-vape-politics-ecigarettes-vaping

E-cigarette restrictions to be eased under bill by San Diego's 'Vaping Congressman'
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/biotech/sd-me-hunter-vaping-20170427-story.html
 
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