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Any thoughts on Snow Wolf 200w mod w/temp
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Just got an email about this box. It's tempting, wanna here more about it thought before I pull the trigger.
What concerns me is the batteries in that picture. I may be wrong but they sure look like the 10 amp batteries that came in my 15 watt evic. If the manufacture is picturing these in a 200 watt mod. I don't think I have much faith in the safety of the device
Since the batteries are unlikely to actually come with the mod and are usually sold seperately... the pic was just for show
The chip is supposed to be made in USA. However, I'll wait for some reviews, before pulling the trigger.
Model：Snow Wolf 200W
Size：100*52*25mm
Weight：250g
Input voltage：6.0-8.4V
Output voltage：0.6V-7V
Output wattage：5W-200W
Temperature range：100℃-300℃
Atomizer resistance：0.04Ω-2.5Ω
Heating coil material：common coil and pure nickel coil
Quiescent current：less than 200uA
Maximum current：35A
Protection function：
- Low voltage protection: when the battery current is lower than 6.0V, low voltage protection. It shows "Checking battery"
- High voltage protection: when the battery current is higher than 9.0V, high voltage protection. It shows"high voltage"
- High temperature protection:when the temperature of PCBA is too high, temperature protection. It shows"Temperature is too high"
- Short circuit protection:when the atomizer is short circuit, it shows"short circuit"
- Smoking time: when the smoking time is over 10 seconds, it turns off automatically, and stops working.
Model：Snow Wolf 200W
Size：100*52*25mm
Weight：250g
Input voltage：6.0-8.4V
Output voltage：0.6V-7V
Output wattage：5W-200W
Temperature range：100℃-300℃
Atomizer resistance：0.04Ω-2.5Ω
Heating coil material：common coil and pure nickel coil
Quiescent current：less than 200uA
Maximum current：35A
Protection function：
- Low voltage protection: when the battery current is lower than 6.0V, low voltage protection. It shows "Checking battery"
- High voltage protection: when the battery current is higher than 9.0V, high voltage protection. It shows"high voltage"
- High temperature protection:when the temperature of PCBA is too high, temperature protection. It shows"Temperature is too high"
- Short circuit protection:when the atomizer is short circuit, it shows"short circuit"
- Smoking time: when the smoking time is over 10 seconds, it turns off automatically, and stops working.
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Looks sweet
Let us know, what you think. TIA.
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100 bucks
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Well that's not bad at all.
If it does what it says that would be a sweet deal.
I wonder how cheap they are if you buy 5 direct.
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Curious as to how this turns out.
me too let me know.. I want to play too!
let me know.. I want to play too!
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They have it listed at 150$... Off someone knows where a 100$ deal is ill preorder it right now.
http://www.asmodus.com/SnowWolf-200W-Variable-Box-Mod-Temperature-Control-p/snowwolf-200w.htm
http://www.asmodus.com/SnowWolf-200W-Variable-Box-Mod-Temperature-Control-p/snowwolf-200w.htm
hmmmm I found a place in china that says they have them for $76 and change..I no nothing of this site but if you want to try here it is
http://www.hkdaworld.com/product/detail/211
http://www.hkdaworld.com/product/detail/211
oh and word is that its a Sigelei stab at temp mod but sold under greenleaf logo in case theres some problems Sigelei doesnt hurt their image..
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Thank you!
Just a heads-up, this box appears to be a buck-only, so while it may be able to hit 200W, you will likely have to build it down to the very lowest resistance to get that power, much like the IPV3/Sig 150W. Still, I've been following this mod too. Looks interesting.
Or electronics to boost the power.
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This is a good thing for the temp limitation.
Ni200 (the nickel wire that works with temp limitation) coils come out to super low in ohms per feet because ni200 is considered a non resistance wire.
Doesn't it have a way bigger temperature range as well?
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Hello guis. I'm going to introduce slowwolf. 200 werts, my new friend.
Got to be fair. In the video you posted, this fool was using Kanthal wire for temp control. Although his English is still bad. I wish they'd show a dry cotton test.
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Agreed It doesn't look like any YiHi chip I have seen before, but if the tc works as decribed it would be a good buy.
Agreed It doesn't look like any YiHi chip I have seen before, but if the tc works as decribed it would be a good buy.
As mentioned in post #9, the chip is supposed to be made in the USA.
Chip being made in USA does not mean it is a better chip. That's just a marketing plan to make it more appealing to the USA market. Not saying the chip is bad just don't get sucked in just because chip is made here. rDNA 40 anyone.
I hear you! That's why I'm waiting on some reviews (as already mentioned).
You can only get so much power out of a battery before it becomes dangerous. Circuitry cant magically manufacture power.
my clone dna v3 works great
It's called a step-up or boost converter.
This looks really interesting, if for no other reason than it seems like it's going to be the third TC chip on the market? The whole "USA made" thing when it's clearly not a DNA 40(which could be marketing yeah), but much more than that the completely different screen layout.
It'd be really interesting to hear if anyone has any clue where this chip is coming from.
It'd be really interesting to hear if anyone has any clue where this chip is coming from.
It now appears that whatever this mystery chip is, the upcoming Sigelei 75W may also use it.
Source is the screenshot of the mod on this site: http://www.smogdistribution.com/group-buys/sigelei-75w-temperature-control-box-mod-sigelei/
Courtesy of @Vapinaces in the Sigelei 75W thread.
Definitely the same screen design as the Snow Wolf:
Source is the screenshot of the mod on this site: http://www.smogdistribution.com/group-buys/sigelei-75w-temperature-control-box-mod-sigelei/
Courtesy of @Vapinaces in the Sigelei 75W thread.
Definitely the same screen design as the Snow Wolf:
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Wow that's interesting that would mean sigelei is going with a different vendor for it's chips instead of yihi ( trouble in paradise? ) I thought the two companies were pretty vested with eachother since they both own half of P4U, I wonder if the Slow Wolf is a new iteration of sigelei branching away from YiHi and now they are taking a stab at their own chipsets. this will be interesting to see, I wonder how it will turn out.It now appears that whatever this mystery chip is, the upcoming Sigelei 75W may also use it.
Source is the screenshot of the mod on this site: http://www.smogdistribution.com/group-buys/sigelei-75w-temperature-control-box-mod-sigelei/
Courtesy of @Vapinaces in the Sigelei 75W thread.
Definitely the same screen design as the Snow Wolf:
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Wait a sec I just rewatched the video I know this guy can't speak english worth a lick ,but I swear @ around 2:05 into this video he says the chip is from Yeehi company,,,, maybe YiHi ???
I know, I have an electronics degree. You step up voltage at the expense of current, and vise versa. You can raise voltage through the roof, given the proper circuit. But it would come at the expense of current. P=Voltage times Current.
Example: .2 ohm load. I want 200 watts.
Assumptions:
Circuit losses = 5 watts.
Battery can maintain 3.5 volts per cell at this level.
Load is 0.20 ohms
Calculations on the battery side are average!
That gives me 7 volts in to the buck/boost controller. OK, so I need 205 watts from the battery to output 200 watts to the load. That equals ~29 amps from 2 batteries in series. This is pushing pair of vtc4s to the limits. On the load side of the regulator we would have to have ~6.3 volts at around 32 amps to get 200 watts. So in this example, we are trading a little voltage for more current at the load.
If I change the load to 0.50 ohms (still at 200 watts), we would need to output 10 volts @ 20 amps. (not sure if the device can do this) Here we would be taking some current to gain voltage at the output. Also circuit looses would differ slightly.
I am being a bit generous in my rough calculations. Reality would be less kind.
Video preview is out - it looks pretty interesting!
Some points I noted:
Overall it looks pretty good. They've clearly taken the DNA 40 as their inspiration, and copied most aspects of that. Then they've massively increased the overall watts, also increased the TC watts, allowed single-digit temp modifications (for what that's worth), and made it simpler to adjust temperature.
Some points I noted:
- Dual 18650, 30A batteries recommended, magnetic door.
- He calls the chip a "GX200 Smart Chip" - anyone ever heard of a GX range of chips?
- Max 200W in power mode, max 70W in TC - meaning it's currently the highest wattage of any TC device we know of (by 10W versus Yihi chips and some new Chinese DNA 40 clones.)
- Temp setting from 100-350°C / 212 - 662° F
- But I hope no-one is going to be regularly firing Ni200 above 600° F where it's known to change its properties quite significantly..
- Above 150W (Power mode only) it goes into Pulse Width Modulation, and it indicates this on screen with a P - a nice touch.
- Auto detects Kanthal/Nickel, and this is indicated by the temp number disappearing when firing on Kanthal - so this is only visible while firing, not at rest.
- It asks New Coil Up / Same Down, exactly like the DNA 40; no Set Resistance presumably.
- In TC mode it displays the live temperature (down to 1 degree, not 10) and the live wattage - again like the DNA 40.
- No TEMP PROTECTED or DRY COIL message was visible, but then he might not have vaped it dry enough to see that (and he kept blowing on the coil.)
- Quite nice method of changing temp/wattage - hold down + and - to change between changing watts and temp, when changing watts the W will flash, when changing the temp the F (or C) will flash.
- Much nicer than the five-click-lock-then-hold-up-and-down-then-go-up-or-down-then-five-click-unlock of the DNA 40
- But makes me wonder if there's any Settings Lock (which is normally hold +/-)
- Much nicer than the five-click-lock-then-hold-up-and-down-then-go-up-or-down-then-five-click-unlock of the DNA 40
- Simultaneous display of ohms, volts, temp and watts - like the big screen DNA 40s.
- The Asmodus guy claims it's "the only mod that shows all variables at all times" - but I thought the large screen DNA 40 also showed them all? Or maybe it doesn't update the volts when firing in TC? Not sure on that.
- No menu system was shown, and given how much of a DNA 40-a-like it is, I doubt there is one - so there's probably lots of "lock the device with five clicks then hold button X and Y for three seconds while turning around, not once, not twice, but thrice, and then double tap Y"
- Three clicks to turn on, five clicks to lock/unlock. Not sure how you turn it off (can't be three clicks surely, unless it's three clicks then a delay turns it off, but five quick clicks locks it - that'd be a bit weird.)
- It's auto-locked after turning it on, so it's eight taps on fire to start vaping when it's off! (Three clicks on; five clicks unlock.)
- Hopefully it never turns itself off automatically, and has a proper sleep mode
- Hopefully it never turns itself off automatically, and has a proper sleep mode
- But the fact that you can turn it off is perhaps an improvement over the DNA 40s and their clones.
- The battery bar really jumped around while he was vaping at 150W - going from ~50% down to empty at several points. Common for high wattage mods? I've never used one above 100W.
Overall it looks pretty good. They've clearly taken the DNA 40 as their inspiration, and copied most aspects of that. Then they've massively increased the overall watts, also increased the TC watts, allowed single-digit temp modifications (for what that's worth), and made it simpler to adjust temperature.
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