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mjag

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Well like I said I had the original. I hated the bottom fill and the deck was tiny and really hard to work with. I'm sure a lot of that has been fixed but normally when I have a bad experience with a companies product I rarely go back. I'm not trying to be a jerk about it but I figure why try something from a company that disappointed me already when there are a ton of new products coming out that look great from companies that have never let me down.

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I am not a big fan of the Goblin Mini as well but that is probably because of my vape style, I want to take such a big lung hit that I fart vape rings....lol.
I like the direction they are going with the Goblin V3, if it is like the Wotofo Serpent mini and Sapor RTA rolled into one then they might have something.
 

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I am not a big fan of the Goblin Mini as well but that is probably because of my vape style, I want to take such a big lung hit that I fart vape rings....lol.
I like the direction they are going with the Goblin V3, if it is like the Wotofo Serpent mini and Sapor RTA rolled into one then they might have something.
Oh, I see, you are a big fan of Wotofo, which kind of other products do you like now?
 

mjag

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Oh, I see, you are a big fan of Wotofo, which kind of other products do you like now?

I am a flavor chaser but like the draw to be more open for deep lung hits, a lot of times these don't go hand in hand though. My favorite tanks right now in no particular order would be the CoilArt Mage, Cthulhu V3 in dual coil mode, Herakles Mini RTA, Wotofo Conqueror and Limitless Plus. For tanks I use while driving to provide great flavor but a little bit more of a restrictive draw to not blind me I am liking the Wotofo Sapor RTA and Serpent Mini, Vaporesso Guardian and Tobecco Super tank in either the pre made coil or RTA version. For just smoking out a room the TFV8, Boreas and Aromamizer Supreme in that order are hard to beat. I have a lot more tanks than that and a few more on the way but those are my go to's at the moment. I will say the Cloudnus RDTA I just got on Saturday has been real good so far, time will tell.

I do like the direction your headed with the Goblin V3, not sure if the airflow will satisfy the DL vapers like me but won't know until it is available to try. With your Goblin V3 I am going to wait until reviews come out to see if it will be a good fit for me.

Good to see you on here though listening to your customers, feedback is always important.
 

ShowerHead

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Aromamizer Supreme.
Great flavor, easy fill, 7ml tank, wicking couldn't be easier.
I have had many tanks and all leaked, some more some less but all too much.
This one is the best vape and has not leaked a drop. Great build quality on all 4 I have bought.
The pins for the JFC that some complain about, I've had no trouble with them.
Here's how I wick it, almost wicks itself. Brilliant!
 

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Did you say Griffin 25+?


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skt239

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I'm liking the looks of the Griffin nano. Anyone have one?
 

ej1024

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Also agree with the RTA-2. I probably only spent 5-10 minutes between deciding to use it the first time and pouring juice into the top because I was good to go. Taste is really good with it too. Not the best but I'd rate it pretty high in taste. But bar none the easiest and idiot resistant tank I have used.
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For absolute flavor and very nice clouds too, my go to, is my Boreas. For ease of build and not so finicky, I love my Avocado 24, but it does not have the flavor the Boreas does. Both work well. I hate that I have to refill the Avocado so often, wish it had 7ml or 8ml capacity. I wish the fill procedure on the Boreas was simpler.
 

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For absolute flavor and very nice clouds too, my go to, is my Boreas. For ease of build and not so finicky, I love my Avocado 24, but it does not have the flavor the Boreas does. Both work well. I hate that I have to refill the Avocado so often, wish it had 7ml or 8ml capacity. I wish the fill procedure on the Boreas was simpler.
Love my Boreas. Going to pick up another 2 SS.

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SHOUTCAST

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I knew staring this thread was a bad idea, now there like 5 things I want :)

How's the airflow on the Boreas and conqueror ?

Btw, can you call my wife and explain to her why I need all this stuff? Apparently my arguments are not very effective..

The Boreas has leaking problems.. So it isn't the easiest to build on.. For if the wicking isn't perfect and I mean perfect it will leak.. Hell even if it is perfect it will leak here and there.. But it has an incredible vape.
 

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My Boreas never leaks but my Merlin has the dreaded seepage issue every once in a while.

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My Boreas never leaks but my Merlin has the dreaded seepage issue every once in a while.

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I just don't believe your boreas has never leaked.. I love my boraes and have gotten the wicking down.. Even with my perfect wicking I still get leaking sometimes when filling as well as a short life of heavy leaking during temp changes until is settles in.., I just don't believe the people that say their boraes has never leaked.. There are more people saying they are having leaking problems with the boaras then there are poeple saying it has never leaked.. Even when my boares is running perfect I still get some slight seepage out of the air holes..
 

mjag

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There isn't a RTA made that won't suffer occasional seepage besides the top airflow variety. You have to factor in condensation from the chimney as well eventually working it's way down over time and finding a way out of a bottom airflow tank. For me with black tanks it is much more noticeable as you can see if more clearly than with SS tanks. With the Aromamizer supreme I think it is less noticeable than the Boreas because the airflow seems to be a little higher so the deck acts as a sort of catch cup. Even so I wiped off my black Aromamizer Supreme the other day before installing it on a mod because of the condensation around the airholes.
 

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Ok you caught me, I'm a liar. Condensation is not the same as leaking. If your wicking was so perfect then why does she leak?

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SHOUTCAST

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There isn't a RTA made that won't suffer occasional seepage besides the top airflow variety. You have to factor in condensation from the chimney as well eventually working it's way down over time and finding a way out of a bottom airflow tank. For me with black tanks it is much more noticeable as you can see if more clearly than with SS tanks. With the Aromamizer supreme I think it is less noticeable than the Boreas because the airflow seems to be a little higher so the deck acts as a sort of catch cup. Even so I wiped off my black Aromamizer Supreme the other day before installing it on a mod because of the condensation around the airholes.

Yes this is true.. But some are worse then others.. I feel the boraes is worse then others.. Based on the topic of the thread I do not believe the boraes should be considered an easy wick for it is not because if you don't wick it perfect it will leak like a race horse.. But I do want to point out that even though I am saying all this the boraes is still my most used atty I own for the vape on it is just so good and it holds alot of liquid.. my two favoirte attys is the boraes and the Limitless Plus.
 

Wingsfan0310

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The best flavor, lots of vapor, and easiest to build RTA I have is an Aromamizer Supreme. It's also built really well. Knurling in all the right places, smooth threads, separate AFC and JFC. Just a really good RDTA.

As you can see RTA's are more about personal opinion/taste. Ask 10 people you will probably get 10 different answers. I guess in the end there are a lot of nice RTA's out now.

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I just don't believe your boreas has never leaked.. I love my boraes and have gotten the wicking down.. Even with my perfect wicking I still get leaking sometimes when filling as well as a short life of heavy leaking during temp changes until is settles in.., I just don't believe the people that say their boraes has never leaked.. There are more people saying they are having leaking problems with the boaras then there are poeple saying it has never leaked.. Even when my boares is running perfect I still get some slight seepage out of the air holes..


NEVER LEAKED....Sorry, but this is the first new equipment I have purchased in over 2 years....I outgrew the Kayfun Lite V2 and bought both the Boreas and Avocado.Both of these atomizers are exactly what I wanted and perform flawlessly. This is the first purchase I've made since 2011 I am completely happy with.


Never a single leak.


The Avocado 24 rocks but even in single coil at 35 watts I have to fill it constantly.
 

Deucesjack

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Just because you don't find it easy doesn't mean others won't. The Boreas is one of my first RTAS and I have never, ever had it leak.

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SHOUTCAST

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Ok you caught me, I'm a liar. Condensation is not the same as leaking. If your wicking was so perfect then why does she leak?

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My point is that even with perfect wicking it will still leak sometimes.. That is why I don't believe people that say their boraes never has leaked..
 

SHOUTCAST

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Just because you don't find it easy doesn't mean others won't. The Boreas is one of my first RTAS and I have never, ever had it leak.

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If someone is looking for a a easy wicking system the boraes is just not the right atty. it requires the perfect amount of cotton to avoid leaking. Even then it will leak sometime when filling or temp change.. there are entire threads on the boaras leaking.. It isn't imaginary.. if it was such a easy wicking system there wouldn't be so many people having problems.. I get it you love your boraes.. I love it too.. it is my most used atty I own.. thing rocks.. but it still will leak here and there..
 
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SHOUTCAST

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NEVER LEAKED....Sorry, but this is the first new equipment I have purchased in over 2 years....I outgrew the Kayfun Lite V2 and bought both the Boreas and Avocado.Both of these atomizers are exactly what I wanted and perform flawlessly. This is the first purchase I've made since 2011 I am completely happy with.


Never a single leak.


The Avocado 24 rocks but even in single coil at 35 watts I have to fill it constantly.

In regards to your avocado you should try the Limitless Plus.. it is 25mm and holds alot more liquid and it can do single coil and 510 drip tip now.. You may find it to your liking.. my two favorite attys are the boraes and the limitless plus..
 

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Dude, you should really take care with what you say about different tanks and mods. This isn't the first time I have seen you spread mis information. Ease of wicking just like the taste of juices is subjective. Now if you want to say YOU have a hard time wicking it, we'll that's perfectly fine but to shit on a perfectly good Rta is just not right. I own many, many other RTA's that are way harder to wick than the Boreas. In fact most people refer to it as a poor man's Aromamizer Supreme. I have a Bellus that's tougher to wick as well as a Goblin Mini just to name a few off the top of my head. First of all the deck on the Boreas is nice and big which helps with wicking. I just don't understand what could be so hard about laying cotton over the juice holes. When you refill just make sure you close the jfc, fill, tighten the top cap halfway, turn upside down, open the jfc, tighten the top cap while it's still upside down, close the jfc, return to its upright position, and finally open the jfc. Walllaaah no leaking.

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ej1024

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I don't have any BOREAS anymore but men oh men, that tank was a BEAST... I can't continue VAPING 120 watts constantly lol


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SHOUTCAST

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Dude, you should really take care with what you say about different tanks and mods. This isn't the first time I have seen you spread mis information. Ease of wicking just like the taste of juices is subjective. Now if you want to say YOU have a hard time wicking it, we'll that's perfectly fine but to shit on a perfectly good Rta is just not right. I own many, many other RTA's that are way harder to wick than the Boreas. In fact most people refer to it as a poor man's Aromamizer Supreme. I have a Bellus that's tougher to wick as well as a Goblin Mini just to name a few off the top of my head. First of all the deck on the Boreas is nice and big which helps with wicking. I just don't understand what could be so hard about laying cotton over the juice holes. When you refill just make sure you close the jfc, fill, tighten the top cap halfway, turn upside down, open the jfc, tighten the top cap while it's still upside down, close the jfc, return to its upright position, and finally open the jfc. Walllaaah no leaking.

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Fine I will say I personally find it harder to wick then most attys. But hey I just call it like I see it.. But it isn't just laying down cotton.. you have to have the right amount of cotton.. too little and it will leak and too much and it will dry up. I am not shitting on the atty.. I am pointing out issues I am seeing with it. I don't own the Aromamizer Supreme and I have been thinking about buying it for I can't find anyone complaining about it in any way.. If you search boraes leaking you will get a ton of hits about the subject. Roxy even had to go over the best way to wick it to avoid leaking.. So while you say I am spreading misinformation I believe I am just making people aware about the issue and you are giving a false perfection about the atty. As for your trick to avoid it from leaking when filling yes I know that trick and I do it everytime I fill it.. But in the end it is still a trick.. It isn't in the manual.. It is something you have to go online to figure out from others.. So most likely You were having leaking issues as well and had to go online to find a solution or you figured it out on your own.. either way at some point yoru boraes was leaking which forced you to figure out a trick to stop it.. I really believe issues like these are things people should be aware of before they buy things.
 

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Fine I will say I personally find it harder to wick then most attys. But hey I just call it like I see it.. But it isn't just laying down cotton.. you have to have the right amount of cotton.. too little and it will leak and too much and it will dry up. I am not shitting on the atty.. I am pointing out issues I am seeing with it. I don't own the Aromamizer Supreme and I have been thinking about buying it for I can't find anyone complaining about it in any way.. If you search boraes leaking you will get a ton of hits about the subject. Roxy even had to go over the best way to wick it to avoid leaking.. So while you say I am spreading misinformation I believe I am just making people aware about the issue and you are giving a false perfection about the atty. As for your trick to avoid it from leaking when filling yes I know that trick and I do it everytime I fill it.. But in the end it is still a trick.. It isn't in the manual.. It is something you have to go online to figure out from others.. So most likely You were having leaking issues as well and had to go online to find a solution or you figured it out on your own.. either way at some point yoru boraes was leaking which forced you to figure out a trick to stop it.. I really believe issues like these are things people should be aware of before they buy things.
That "trick" is something that should be highlighted...not just with the Boreas which I don't own btw, but with most atties. This is a "old school" practice that had to be applied to every tank I woild say 1-2 years old.

I will say that as tanks evolved, we find ourselves not "needing" to do it as much but I personally apply that technique to all atties because I have been vaping for damn near 5 years and it is programmed in my flow. I actually get worried when I forget :) lol. Anyhow, I guess if we are judging modern tanks, I guess the absence of the half fill, close jfc (if possible) technique could be seen as a plus... It's also a matter of physics. Shove juice,water,air does not matter into a container...that element will always take the path of least resistance...air holes.

My 2 cents

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I don't have any BOREAS anymore but men oh men, that tank was a BEAST... I can't continue VAPING 120 watts constantly lol


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Were you able to wick it?

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Griffin 25MM mini is as easy as wicking a rda
only draw back I can see are the small post holes, but 2mm is good enough for round wire and standard claptons
 

Topweasel

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Griffin 25MM mini is as easy as wicking a rda
only draw back I can see are the small post holes, but 2mm is good enough for round wire and standard claptons
I would say the Griffen while I can't say how it's tastes would be very similar but is inferior to the RTA-2 in wicking. The Griffen while have a larger area than the 22 is still pretty much the same with having a raised deck and a hole for each tail. The RTA-2 takes absolutely no effort.
 

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That "trick" is something that should be highlighted...not just with the Boreas which I don't own btw, but with most atties. This is a "old school" practice that had to be applied to every tank I woild say 1-2 years old.

I will say that as tanks evolved, we find ourselves not "needing" to do it as much but I personally apply that technique to all atties because I have been vaping for damn near 5 years and it is programmed in my flow. I actually get worried when I forget :) lol. Anyhow, I guess if we are judging modern tanks, I guess the absence of the half fill, close jfc (if possible) technique could be seen as a plus... It's also a matter of physics. Shove juice,water,air does not matter into a container...that element will always take the path of least resistance...air holes.

My 2 cents

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Yep, I just burp 'em as a matter of habit lol...
 

Infinite1

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Yep, I just burp 'em as a matter of habit lol...
Ahhh, the infamous burping like a baby thing. I don't miss those days, but the experience gained with gear of afore is priceless, eh? Lol

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I would say the Griffen while I can't say how it's tastes would be very similar but is inferior to the RTA-2 in wicking. The Griffen while have a larger area than the 22 is still pretty much the same with having a raised deck and a hole for each tail. The RTA-2 takes absolutely no effort.
I don't worry about getting the tails in the holes, just getting cotton over them seems to work.
 

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Herakles RTA-2, if you can't build on that beast, you can't build.
I have to agree.
Been vaping since 2011, have over 50 tanks and all but 2 are regular coiled tanks.
I have a Samurai and the Herakles RTA2.
The Herakles RTA2 has been sitting on the shelf giving me the stink eye for quite some time now.
When I ordered it, I honestly had no intent or using it, I simply got it because it was on sale and I thought I'd save it for a rainy day.
Well, today is that rainy day.
I tried twice on the Samurai a long time ago and wasn't impressed so I left it alone and stuck with tanks like the Crown, Herakles (original and plus), Cleito/Cerakoat, ArcticV8, TFV4, TFV4 Micro, TFV8, TFV8 baby, Original Super Tank, Rafale, Starre Pro, Triforce 30mm, and so on.
I picked up the Smok Micro One kit that came with the Minos.
Once the coil that was in it burnt and I was waiting on replacements to show up at my door I decided to try the deck on that to see how it went simply because it was there.
Turns out it was pre-loaded with coils and all I needed to do was grab some cotton bacon.
I thought what the hell.
To my surprise it went rather well.
I though if I could pull that off maybe I'd go ahead and try the Herakles RTA2 and see how that'd go over.
Grabbed some 24 gauge Clapton wire, gave it 5 wraps on a .3mm and ended up with a pair that gave me .21 ohms.
Seemed ok, cotton went in ok and didn't look much different than most of the reviews I've watched.
Dropped a few on it and threaded it all together.
On my second hit, while I was kind of impressed that I didn't break something or throw something, I thought to myself, damnit was I supposed to fire those coils before putting cotton in it?
Decided it was too late and vaped on.
End result is that it not only tasted great but it actually worked.
Considering the fact I never wrapped a coil before and it actually worked, it MUST not be too difficult to use this particular RTA.

Yes, I said ALL that just to agree with your comment.
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PaulS

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So we tested the Limitless XL.

Cons:
Lmited juice capacity (4ml isn't much in 120w -160w range)
Screw off to fill and no juice flow control. If you aren't careful refilling, the bottom air holes will dump juice out like a sieve and it drains straight out the bottom

Pros:
Amazing airflow.
Massive build decks
Easy wicking
Comes with a lovely quad coil with a gimmick - it lights up but discreetly and vapes at 125+ to 200 with ease.
Two excellent build decks - single coil and dual coil posts with enormous post holes and generous wicking channels
Cosmetically it looks beautiful especially in black
It's machining is phenomenal.

If you build your own coils - highly recommended. It has a small chuff cap - you would think it would get hot - it does not and I vape it at 115 - 145 watts. It is tricky to adjust the airflow. It's on th bottom loke the Goblin but when the tank gets hot it is very hot to touch. You need a tool to move the airflow shut and then to open it when you refill - it will leak if you do not.

This is a relatively big tank - 25mm. So it looks silly on small mods. It was clearly designed for their dual 26650 mod. The Lux. Would I buy one if this broke or got stolen? Maybe. I think it's better than the TFV8 beast tank or the Gemini 25 or the Supreme. I prefer my VCMT 30 mm though.
 

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FWIW, The TFV-RTA G2 and the TFV4 with the Single Clapton RBA are the two easiest RTAs I have encountered. Massive juice channels, make placing the tails dirt simple. I re-wick often, and ease and speed of re-wicking are important to me.

Both of these RTAs make it so simple, one could almost do it in the dark.
 

kargurin

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How do you choose the child you love the most???? :) Billow V3 Plus, Crius Plus, Mage, Merlin. Maybe Merlin more finicky to wick but it ain't bad. Billow and Crius have such big juice chambers they don't care much how I wick them or chain vaping. And I love sucking on the Mage.

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MannyScoot

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I have gone through:
The Moonshot
The Diablo
The TFV4
The BFT
The Griffin
The VCMT
The Maganus
The Aromamizer Supreme
The Boreas


My favorite is: The Modfather
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My second is: The Tank by Scottua
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The Aromamizer Supreme is nice, but the Modfather is a similar product that functions better. If you need juice flow control or the smaller size, go with the Aromamizer. If you want more airflow and a chuff cap style mouthpiece, go with the Modfather. Can't go wrong with either of those.
 

PaulS

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Lol the Moonshot that tank is a challenge to build and wick.

It might be BUT it vapes so damn nice and mine never leaks. I have the Mage. The flavor and vape on the Moonshot is better.Of the tanks listed by @MannyScoot, the Boreas, the VCMT and Moonshot are still in my rotation.
 

OhmzRaw

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It might be BUT it vapes so damn nice and mine never leaks. I have the Mage. The flavor and vape on the Moonshot is better.
Thanks for that. I wan interested in the Mage but not anymore. I agree with you on the flavor on the Moonshot, absolutely fantastic. By the way, what build you have in yours ?
 

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