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MrScaryZ

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Voltage is very important in subohm, for instance

4.2v on a .2ohm coil is 21 amps
but on a 3.7v charge its only 18.5 amps

if you are trying to figure a coil build for 30 amps and you use 3.7v then a .12ohm coil is what you get , but in all actuality when you put in a fresh battery you are pulling over 34amps
I know this ohms law is not difficult you are preaching to the choir
 

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Why don't you learn punctuation and English before posting, so people can actually understand what the fuck you are trying to say! SMFH!


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Dumb ass this is a forum this is not English 101 202 303 0r 404 or grad school why don't you learn a bit more about WTF you are talking about before spewing more retardation across the INTERNET.
 

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What's the matter asshole, you don't like it when people comment on your shit, telling you how it is, and acting like you are stupid? Then don't do it to somebody else you fucking hypocrite!


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You mad bro!


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Dumb ass this is a forum this is not English 101 202 303 0r 404 or grad school why don't you learn a bit more about WTF you are talking about before spewing more retardation across the INTERNET.
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No shit, if this dude is sub-ohming, even at.9, there is no fucking way he is getting that much life outta one battery, or even two batteries running parallel, if he is chain vaping. I have been vaping for nearly 3 years, so I know of what I speak. @MrScaryZ, you are correct in saying that there is NO battery better than a Sony VTC. I have tried them all, some come damn close, but give me a Sony anyday of the year. I really do not see why this thread has continued as long as it has, I guess batteries are like assholes, everyone has one, and they all stink. Except Sony, which doth smell of sweet wine and candied roses.....LMFAO
Yeah the guy is off his rocker he fell out of a tree hes standing on a shaky ground -- Ratt
 

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Look, mr badass on the Internet! Why don't you learn what the fuck you are talking about before you spread retardation across the Internet!!! If a battery is 35 AMP pulse, when the fuck do you think that would kick In??? When you first hit the switch on an LG HE2, it's firing at 35 amps! It will do so for 10 seconds, THEN it will drop to 20AMPS continuously!!! Call the manufacturer, look it up, phone a friend, but take your hate, and assholiness somewhere else!!!


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It will not fire at 35amps for 10 seconds where did you get this information please back this statement up with data sheets and graphs and please break it down for all of us idiots so that we can understand you... ok
 

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Look, mr badass on the Internet! Why don't you learn what the fuck you are talking about before you spread retardation across the Internet!!! If a battery is 35 AMP pulse, when the fuck do you think that would kick In??? When you first hit the switch on an LG HE2, it's firing at 35 amps! It will do so for 10 seconds, THEN it will drop to 20AMPS continuously!!! Call the manufacturer, look it up, phone a friend, but take your hate, and assholiness somewhere else!!!


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Do you understand pulse? = NO please proceed to http://www.batteryuniversity.com read it all understand it all
then do some tests yourself or better find the tests that have been done over and over and over again and then come back and talk teach us something I mean if we are wrong show us..
 

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Look man, I know how these batteries work! When someone comes on here, acting like I don't know what I actually have, or thinking I'm a dumbass, I really start acting like a dumbass just to piss them off, like I just did to you! I'm a sarcastic son of a bitch, and I just got you! LMMFAO!!! Don't reply to anything I post, assuming I don't know! If I ask, then you can teach! Thanks and have a wonderful day :)


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You got me? No dude ya never were in the ballpark
You still mad bro?


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I'm not mad, but I did get you, hook, line and sinker! Hahahahha!


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You do not know me very well @trapdaddy nothing phases me at all if you want to say you got me ok you won haha
its all good now can I give you a big kissy?
 

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You do not know me very well @trapdaddy nothing phases me at all if you want to say you got me ok you won haha
its all good now can I give you a big kissy?[/QUOTE


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I am an asshat see I have been on here loooong time I do not care what I say or who I say it to in your case you need a spanking in the face but I am sure that someone else will do Now pleaese do not assume I am assuming anything I just done care ;)
 

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Didn't say you were an asshat! I said that anyone assuming anything looks like an asshat! We can meet up anytime, any place for that spanking in the face :) you are a big man on the Internet, and is kinda like to see just how bad you really are! Now THATS my cup of tea :) Also, don't act like you have been on here for such a long time! You have only been here since June. Big whoop! Yes, you have the right to say what you want to say, but everyone else has a right to call you out on it as well! Hope you have a good day bro! Don't stay mad, it will only lead to more grey hair :)


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LOFUCKINGL, I don't believe I have heard, " We can meet up anytime, any place for that spanking in the face...." in at least 20 odd years. One reveals ones stupidity, or in your case, lack of experience, when you stated that you were able to sub-ohm, whilst chain vaping, on one battery. This is nigh to impossible. It is also the point where MrScaryZ lost his patience with you. Because either you are lying or you lack the experience to know any better, which is also a lie. I am not a fanboy of MrScaryZ, we have had our own disagreements, but individuals such as yourself make me sick. It is also one of the many reasons why I left ECF, you are a troll as best. A malicious troll at worst, which is now listed in the DSM - 5 as a Personality Disorder.
 
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LOFUCKINGL, I don't believe I have heard, " We can meet up anytime, any place for that spanking in the face...." in at least 20 odd years. One reveals ones stupidity, or in your case, lack of experience, when you stated that you were able to sub-ohm, whilst chain vaping, on one battery. This is nigh to impossible. It is also the point where MrScaryZ lost his patience with you. Because either you are lying or you lack the experience to know any better, which is also a lie. I am not a fanboy of MrScaryZ, we have had our own disagreements, but individuals such as yourself make me sick.
 
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I have quite a full life, dude. I make damn good money, which affords me the time to sit in my nice office and read your bullshit. I have three great kids and a smoking hot wife. So go fuck yourself noob. Read a book, or at least gain some real insight into vaping, then come back with a more humble attitude.
 

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I have quite a full life, dude. I make damn good money, which affords me the time to sit in my nice office and read your bullshit. I have three great kids and a smoking hot wife. So go fuck yourself noob. Read a book, or at least gain some real insight into vaping, then come back with a more humble attitude.
 
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I have quite a full life, dude. I make damn good money, which affords me the time to sit in my nice office and read your bullshit. I have three great kids and a smoking hot wife. So go fuck yourself noob. Read a book, or at least gain some real insight into vaping, then come back with a more humble
 
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I swear I'm dealing with a fucking child here! So what! I have three kids and your wife is only hot in your eyes! So...why don't you go fuck yourself with her dildo! I'm sure we all know why she has one! :)


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you got me, wow the embarrassment. now i will go shoot myself
 

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Oh man.. this thread is getting good again

on a side note i just picked up 2 of the efest purple 2500mah's because I got them for 10$ brand new from a friend.. couldn't pass that up.. but I need to pick up some different ones eventually
 

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"Other than that, it stays in my hand and I vape all day long" said the guy with one battery who watches porn all day whilst vaping.
 

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Everyone please continue while I go make some popcorn :D
 

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That imrbatteries site has some of the best prices especially with $2 shipping. He2's are like $7 :eek: But $10 per bat and you get it now is not bad.

I have had a purple 2500 for almost a year now and it has been a great battery. Not as good as my vtc5's... but you can't get those anymore.
The purple has actually held up very well over time, it hits about as hard as my new he2's.

Lot's of purple bashing to be found and I agree their marketing of the battery is lame but I can't really say anything bad about the battery itself.
 

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That imrbatteries site has some of the best prices especially with $2 shipping. He2's are like $7 :eek: But $10 per bat and you get it now is not bad.

I have had a purple 2500 for almost a year now and it has been a great battery. Not as good as my vtc5's... but you can't get those anymore.
The purple has actually held up very well over time, it hits about as hard as my new he2's.

Lot's of purple bashing to be found and I agree their marketing of the battery is lame but I can't really say anything bad about the battery itself.
I agree, I have several myself and they work great. Their will be plenty of VTC5's to be had very soon. Sony is about done with their new bat plant in the Philippines. The almighty Sony line will live on.
 

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That imrbatteries site has some of the best prices especially with $2 shipping. He2's are like $7 :eek: But $10 per bat and you get it now is not bad.

I have had a purple 2500 for almost a year now and it has been a great battery. Not as good as my vtc5's... but you can't get those anymore.
The purple has actually held up very well over time, it hits about as hard as my new he2's.

Lot's of purple bashing to be found and I agree their marketing of the battery is lame but I can't really say anything bad about the battery itself.

good to know! sadly my last vtc5 is probably getting on the dull side.. I probably need to pick up some 4's just to have..but I did hear the 5's are going to be back in full production pretty soon so I think we will have them available sometime in 2015.. hopefully by the summer..

I don't really go below .8 for my builds so i think the efests will handle just fine for now.. I just just get the subtank with .5 heads so we shall see!
 

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the sub tank fucking rocks! I love it, broke down and paid 55 bucks for it at my favorite B&M(Rogue Vapers). Lately, it's my go to tank, over my AQUA V2, which I thought would never happen.
 

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Duh! They are 35 amp for the first 10 seconds of hitting the switch actually, then they drop! Who holds for more than 10 seconds?


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LG says they are 20 amp batteries. Period. The pulse rating was taken from graphs on a test sheet and someone besides LG decided they were 35 amp based on that. The batteries put out whatever amperage is demanded of them by the resistance of your coil and the voltage available from the battery. It most certainly doesn't put out a flat amount of amperage for a specific time and then magically drop. If your coil and the available voltage demand 40 amps (or any value, pick a number) then the battery will be forced to try to deliver that - or fail to. It's entirely up to you to let go of the switch in a reasonable amount of time to prevent over stressing the battery. The only thing it will do on it's own is heat up and possibly vent if you push it too hard.

Edit: I can certainly understand your wanting to edit your posts. Unfortunately, as you may have noticed, it does nothing to change the quotes of that original post.
 
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Hey man I love you you hold grudges come on man dear :) yeah you deal with this guy hes freaking nutz
Yeah, I got that impression when he wouldn't just shut the fuck up. Member since 12/05 and he thinks he is king of the mountain, narcissistic much @trapdaddy+
@Lefty Finally, someone that understands how batteries work. BTW. I was given 2 VAMPED 40 AMPS, much ado about nothing. Give me a Samsung 25R anyday.
 
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I do hope to see Sony come back to the market, they are a very good battery.
 

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I do hope to see Sony come back to the market, they are a very good battery.

Oh they plan to.. I guess a HUGE piece of their yearly revenue is from those batteries.. so they are taking quite a hit not being able to produce them.. hence the new factory being built.
 

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Yeah, I got that impression when he wouldn't just shut the fuck up. Member since 12/05 and he thinks he is king of the mountain, narcissistic much @trapdaddy+
@Lefty Finally, someone that understands how batteries work. BTW. I was given 2 VAMPED 40 AMPS, much ado about nothing. Give me a Samsung 25R anyday.
Yeah I figured those vamped were bull yeah the samsungs work fne Im just mech and dripping today a bit of my new EHPRO Billow I love that thing
I have a 25r in a .1 ohm build with this custard of something camel custard hell I dont know :)
 

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Look, mr badass on the Internet! Why don't you learn what the fuck you are talking about before you spread retardation across the Internet!!! If a battery is 35 AMP pulse, when the fuck do you think that would kick In??? When you first hit the switch on an LG HE2, it's firing at 35 amps! It will do so for 10 seconds, THEN it will drop to 20AMPS continuously!!! Call the manufacturer, look it up, phone a friend, but take your hate, and assholiness somewhere else!!!


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I'm no battery expert, more like a newbie, but shouldn't the battery fire at an amperage depending on the build? This is an honest question because it scares me if it will fire @ 35 AMP all the time.
 

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You fucking piece of shit!!! YOU came on here bashing me, and you say I won't shut the fuck up!!! You act just like a fucking ******!!!! I'm nuts??? YOU are the one acting like you know everything??? You don't even fucking know me bitch, yet you tell me I don't know what I'm talking about??? Fuck you you ****** mother fucker!!! This is exactly why I didn't join a forum till December, because of assholes like you thinking that just because you are in a forum, you know more than everyone!!! And yes, I have been vaping since the shit first started with those fucked up electronic cigs in the 80's!!!! So FUCK YOU, fuck the horse you rode in on and fuck this VU forum!!!


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Now Now big guy relax its all good let it out man we are here for dear wow you are better than me
 

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I'm no battery expert, more like a newbie, but shouldn't the battery fire at an amperage depending on the build? This is an honest question because it scares me if it will fire @ 35 AMP all the time.

A battery will only put out what's asked of it. That could be more or less than what the battery is rated at but if you build a mellow 1 ohm build it will only pull 4.2 amps from the battery. If you build a 0.05 ohm coil it will pull 84 amps and your battery will most likely vent.
 

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Look, I didn't read threw all of the posts in this thread, but to stay on topic I am inclined to agree that samsung makes solid batteries and have a stable track record...I've always used the 20R from the beginning of my vaping journey, I bought it from battery websites because I couldn't find it in vaping shops...it's 20 then 22 amp continuous discharge made me feel safe even when i was just using my first mod which was vamo v2...the 25R is supposed to be the upgrade from that even though it's only 20 amps when it's longer life and is supposed to be even better made....even though they don't list the pulse limit on the 20R another thing I like is you can find their datasheets on several websites...not something you get with every battery....They may not be the "sony killer" for those super super low builds, but down to .2 to for sure they are a solid option and for most vapors they are more battery than you'll ever need and they don't cost the same as a house or a gallon of gas in 2008 :)

http://www.avacom.cz/Datasheety/Samsung/INR18650-20R.pdf
http://www.samsungsdi.com/lithium-ion-battery/power-tool
http://www.vapeking.com.au/content/Samsung-25R.pdf

Yes I am a Samsung fanboy, but if I am going to hand you a mod with a .2 setup in it I will only do so if it's something I trust putting to my own face, or my mothers :)
 

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I've been using the new IMREN's and I do have to say that they have performed just as well as my Sony's did. We can talk specs all day long but it really just comes down to the performance and how well it suits your needs. For me, I've been loving these IMREN's and would put them right up there with the Sony VTC 4/5
 

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I've been using the new IMREN's and I do have to say that they have performed just as well as my Sony's did. We can talk specs all day long but it really just comes down to the performance and how well it suits your needs. For me, I've been loving these IMREN's and would put them right up there with the Sony VTC 4/5
No they do not perform as well I jumped on the Imren bandwagon when they first came out In fact they may just be relabeled LG HE's buy looking at them if you really want to up the ante go buy a motorcycle battery with a step down transformer and vape for a week or so thats a sony killer
 

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Now Now big guy relax its all good let it out man we are here for dear wow you are better than me

I wouldn't be so sure.. He started a new thread to prove you wrong on this entire subject LOL.
 

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I wouldn't be so sure.. He started a new thread to prove you wrong on this entire subject LOL.
good for him I imagine he will masturbate his words to make others truly believe because they want to believe so bad there is a sony killer that he might just convince others there is I am not debating any of it... I have seen the tests done in real life I dont care let him stir in his feces
 

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good for him I imagine he will masturbate his words to make others truly believe because they want to believe so bad there is a sony killer that he might just convince others there is I am not debating any of it... I have seen the tests done in real life I dont care let him stir in his feces

the grave has already been dug.. I'm not too worried - I posted my 2 cents like I always do :)
 

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the grave has already been dug.. I'm not too worried - I posted my 2 cents like I always do :)
You a good man I think its time for a vacation from the forum again... Think I will enjoy my new EHPRO Billow and just watch how everyone will state "I gotta a purple one its a Efest duhhh and it says 35A so it blows away the Sony" hahaha
 

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You a good man I think its time for a vacation from the forum again... Think I will enjoy my new EHPRO Billow and just watch how everyone will state "I gotta a purple one its a Efest duhhh and it says 35A so it blows away the Sony" hahaha

Wait a sec.. I heard the purples are really 60 amps.. but with a continuous pulse rate of 100 amps.. but if you charge them on a full moon they can hit 150 amps ;)
 

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Wait a sec.. I heard the purples are really 60 amps.. but with a continuous pulse rate of 100 amps.. but if you charge them on a full moon they can hit 150 amps ;)
hahaha yeah a guy on reddit right yeah 100amps man we are set I heard they are coming out with a battery that freaking wirelessly taps into the power lines and charges in .00000000000001 second yeah man I will blow some cumulous clouds dude!! hehe
 

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