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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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Instead of running for a second term as POTUS... maybe we can get him to run for Governor of Kalifornia.

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nope...California is not america..coastal california the population centers are democrat and they always will be due to immigration both legal and illegal..the DNC take money from the citizens and cater to the immigrant community with all kinds of free goodies...this is the same thing the DNC did in NY as well as we all remember Tamney Hall. also Ca. has something like 1/3 of all welfare recepients in america....the DNC in Ca. stays in power through immigration legal and illegal the only problem California has with america is that it is full of americans...The middle class has been fleeing California for over a decade without illegal immigration the population of the state would be in decline..the electorial college vote is based on population..not LEGAL population just how many bodies are in the state..enforcment of immigration laws would take electorial college votes from the DNC....eventually costal california will be a collection of a handfull of wealthy elite mostly white and asian being catered to by masses of taxpayer funded serf class of illegal aliens and other poor immigrants, with a group or generational welfare recepients.....hell it;'s already there.
 

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nope...California is not america..coastal california the population centers are democrat and they always will be due to immigration both legal and illegal..the DNC take money from the citizens and cater to the immigrant community with all kinds of free goodies...this is the same thing the DNC did in NY as well as we all remember Tamney Hall. also Ca. has something like 1/3 of all welfare recepients in america....the DNC in Ca. stays in power through immigration legal and illegal the only problem California has with america is that it is full of americans...The middle class has been fleeing California for over a decade without illegal immigration the population of the state would be in decline..the electorial college vote is based on population..not LEGAL population just how many bodies are in the state..enforcment of immigration laws would take electorial college votes from the DNC....eventually costal california will be a collection of a handfull of wealthy elite mostly white and asian being catered to by masses of taxpayer funded serf class of illegal aliens and other poor immigrants, with a group or generational welfare recepients.....hell it;'s already there.
All true.. I live there.

Gotta believe after 16 years of Moonbeam and Gavin to come... even we might be ready for a reality. That doesn't include commercials.

Put a pin dead center in the map of Cal.. my house is about 70 miles south of there. In what used to be the big GREEN part that is now brown.

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All true.. I live there.

Gotta believe after 16 years of Moonbeam and Gavin to come... even we might be ready for a reality. That doesn't include commercials.

Put a pin dead center in the map of Cal.. my house is about 70 miles south of there. In what used to be the big GREEN part that is now brown.

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It's the brown belt because the central valley isn't democrat you voted agianst Obama and you became his political enemies so he used the Federal goverment and federal beauacracy to withold water and destroy the economy of those counties.Stalin couldn''t have done it any better.He tried to do to you what he did to the syrians,drive them from their homes.and it will not change until we stop importing masses of uneducated poor desperate immigrants to the US...they will always go to the enclaves and form ethnic voting blocks it is how the DNC has held power since the end of the civil war and every black in america was a republican, it is why Ted Kennedy and the DNC altered drasticly our immigration policy in 1965 ...the only thing the DNC hates about america is the americans.
 
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nope...California is not america..coastal california the population centers are democrat and they always will be due to immigration both legal and illegal..the DNC take money from the citizens and cater to the immigrant community with all kinds of free goodies...this is the same thing the DNC did in NY as well as we all remember Tamney Hall. also Ca. has something like 1/3 of all welfare recepients in america....the DNC in Ca. stays in power through immigration legal and illegal the only problem California has with america is that it is full of americans...The middle class has been fleeing California for over a decade without illegal immigration the population of the state would be in decline..the electorial college vote is based on population..not LEGAL population just how many bodies are in the state..enforcment of immigration laws would take electorial college votes from the DNC....eventually costal california will be a collection of a handfull of wealthy elite mostly white and asian being catered to by masses of taxpayer funded serf class of illegal aliens and other poor immigrants, with a group or generational welfare recepients.....hell it;'s already there.
15 years ago I was offered a really nice position with Oracle in CA. My wife and I discussed it and decided against it due to the cost of housing, living expenses and the educational system (2 young sons). I'm an independent, socially moderate and fiscally conservative, my wife is independent and socially liberal and fiscally conservative. The huge bump in salary would have been snarfed up by state taxes and housing. My wife was concerned that it would take her years to get tenure at a University, if she could get hired at all. She flew out and did an informational interview at UC Berkley. After that, she was completely opposed to moving to CA, she said the people she interviewed with were hardcore socialists using academia as a screen.
 

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15 years ago I was offered a really nice position with Oracle in CA. My wife and I discussed it and decided against it due to the cost of housing, living expenses and the educational system (2 young sons). I'm an independent, socially moderate and fiscally conservative, my wife is independent and socially liberal and fiscally conservative. The huge bump in salary would have been snarfed up by state taxes and housing. My wife was concerned that it would take her years to get tenure at a University, if she could get hired at all. She flew out and did an informational interview at UC Berkley. After that, she was completely opposed to moving to CA, she said the people she interviewed with were hardcore socialists using academia as a screen.
Your wife and you are sharp cookies....yeah I've read surveys where 95% of all college proffesors identify as either democrat or liberal...there has been a call for real intellectual diversity within the university system,but I wouldn;'t hold my breath....there's been a wide abuse of the H1-b visa system for the IT industry to bring in tons of workers from India....a bunch came over here and thought they were going to live the immigrant dream, bought houses,bought lots of sparkely shit went into debt...then the housing bubble burst and they all went upside down in their mortages...they had become wage slaves to the IT industry they couldn't afford to leave because they were to far into debt.....
 

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Smart wife Zam.....

I wouldnt advise moving here to anyone.. Unfortunately I was born here....

Yeah I know I could go somewhere less oppressive.

But i won't let political zealots chase me from my home.

I'm kinda hoping the nuts ceceed. Figure we end up with 2 or 3 new US territories as buffer to the 3rd world communist country on the western edge.

Can't wait for a job building that wall.

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15 years ago I was offered a really nice position with Oracle in CA. My wife and I discussed it and decided against it due to the cost of housing, living expenses and the educational system (2 young sons). I'm an independent, socially moderate and fiscally conservative, my wife is independent and socially liberal and fiscally conservative. The huge bump in salary would have been snarfed up by state taxes and housing. My wife was concerned that it would take her years to get tenure at a University, if she could get hired at all. She flew out and did an informational interview at UC Berkley. After that, she was completely opposed to moving to CA, she said the people she interviewed with were hardcore socialists using academia as a screen.
Exactly I just completed a contract at U of C I could not run fast enough to get away from the Crazy
 

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Exactly I just completed a contract at U of C I could not run fast enough to get away from the Crazy

Now you know why they legalized recreational xxxx... self medication.

Its like living next to a dairy farm....

Nevermind.. what comes from the back of a cow still smells better.


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Now you know why they legalized recreational weed... self medication.

Its like living next to a dairy farm....

Nevermind.. what comes from the back of a cow still smells better.


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I'm kind of glad the leagalized h*rbals..now you don't have to worry about getting shot by h*rb farmer when you go for a hike in the moutains of california.for a while there mexican cartels had turned the santa cruz moutains into a no go zone.
 

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Now you know why they legalized recreational xxxx... self medication.

Its like living next to a dairy farm....

Nevermind.. what comes from the back of a cow still smells better.


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very true its everywhere
 

HondaDavidson

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I'm kind of glad the leagalized herbals..now you don't have to worry about getting shot by herb farmer when you go for a hike in the moutains of california.for a while there mexican cartels had turned the santa cruz moutains into a no go zone.
Those Mexicans will still be there...... they still have 49 states and the rest of the world too supply.

besides the farmers are not a problem... if you shoot first.

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Your wife and you are sharp cookies....yeah I've read surveys where 95% of all college proffesors identify as either democrat or liberal...there has been a call for real intellectual diversity within the university system,but I wouldn;'t hold my breath....there's been a wide abuse of the H1-b visa system for the IT industry to bring in tons of workers from India....a bunch came over here and thought they were going to live the immigrant dream, bought houses,bought lots of sparkely shit went into debt...then the housing bubble burst and they all went upside down in their mortages...they had become wage slaves to the IT industry they couldn't afford to leave because they were to far into debt.....
The H1 visa system is a total scam. Quite a few of the folks that come over on one think that they can get sponsored for a green card before the term ends. Mostly it never happens. The real reason there are a lot of H1-B visa holders is to in-source foreigners, displace American IT workers and make the consulting company tons of money while supposedly saving the company doing the in-sourcing some money. Never works out that way though, productivity drops like a rock and then the excuses begin due to language and foreign customs. I's seen it literally dozens of times with companies in my area. A huge glittery carrot of a 25% reduction in capital salary expenditures is dangled in front of an executive who then either outsources the work to India or the Philippines, or in-sources with a large Indian consulting company. The result is always the same, a huge increase in capital spend over 3-4 years before any tangible benefit can be realized, by then the IT departments are decimated and the products and services operating way, way below any reasonable expectation.
 

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The H1 visa system is a total scam. Quite a few of the folks that come over on one think that they can get sponsored for a green card before the term ends. Mostly it never happens. The real reason there are a lot of H1-B visa holders is to in-source foreigners, displace American IT workers and make the consulting company tons of money while supposedly saving the company doing the in-sourcing some money. Never works out that way though, productivity drops like a rock and then the excuses begin due to language and foreign customs. I's seen it literally dozens of times with companies in my area. A huge glittery carrot of a 25% reduction in capital salary expenditures is dangled in front of an executive who then either outsources the work to India or the Philippines, or in-sources with a large Indian consulting company. The result is always the same, a huge increase in capital spend over 3-4 years before any tangible benefit can be realized, by then the IT departments are decimated and the products and services operating way, way below any reasonable expectation.
one of things I learned in life is greedy fucks never learn.....they will always cut their noses of to spite their faces....
 

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Those Mexicans will still be there...... they still have 49 states and the rest of the world too supply.

besides the farmers are not a problem... if you shoot first.

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really imagine a 1,000 acres of the stuff being farmed openly in an efficent manner out in the valley the price of the crap will fall like an anvil...legitamte farmers will be supplying the stuff..the criminal elements will give up farming it in the moutains......it won't be lucrative enough...and since it is legal nobody will want to steal it.they'll turn to stealing almonds.
 

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I'm kind of glad the leagalized h**bals..now you don't have to worry about getting shot by **** farmer when you go for a hike in the moutains of california.for a while there mexican cartels had turned the santa cruz moutains into a no go zone.

I'm fine with legalized gr*en stuff but I think I'd use it against the sanctuary cities if I was in the Trump administration.

It's still illegal federally. I'd tell those mayors to play ball with ICE or I might be inclined to enforce Federal Law on your green stuff shops and growers.

If the liberals want to be whiny crybabies, I say give them something to cry about.
 

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I'm fine with legalized green stuff but I think I'd use it against the sanctuary cities if I was in the Trump administration.

It's still illegal federally. I'd tell those mayors to play ball with ICE or I might be inclined to enforce Federal Law on your green stuff shops and growers.

If the liberals want to be whiny crybabies, I say give them something to cry about.
by any means neccesary...do that withold federal funding ect...make it so difficult and painfull for them they will deport the city council...let's face it these cities only vote democrat what does Trump have to lose.
 

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I think Trump will cut federal highway funding in places like Cali and other sanctuary states. Calif has lots of roads, its a car culture. That will change attitudes once people have to bring in their Mercedes and BMW's to have front end damage repaired from potholes.
 

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really imagine a 1,000 acres of the stuff being farmed openly in an efficent manner out in the valley the price of the crap will fall like an anvil...legitamte farmers will be supplying the stuff..the criminal elements will give up farming it in the moutains......it won't be lucrative enough...and since it is legal nobody will want to steal it.they'll turn to stealing almonds.
Dream on..... only people who stand to profit are the same..as those who profit now....... the cartels, processors and Gobment.......

Farming is NOT where the money is or will ever be......

As with all farmed product.. profits start AFTER being sold by the farmer.


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Dream on..... only people who stand to profit are the same..as those who profit now....... the cartels, processors and Gobment.......

Farming is NOT where the money is or will ever be......

As with all farmed product.. profits start AFTER being sold by the farmer.


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remember over ten years ago the price of wine grapes went through the roof, and every yahoo with an acre of land in and around Napa and Sononma county had grape vines all around their double wides growing grapes for all the vanity wineries, I don't know how it was where you were but around those counties that's how it was and still is to a big degree..all the way up to mendecino.....there were so many people growing grapes the price plummeted..I can imagine the same industry springing up around the green stuff all these old hippies and new age burn outs growing obscure and speciality varities hell the stuff is a fucking weed it doesn't take any great shakes knowledge or ability to grow it. man I can envison a time where you can pay a license for the tax and you'll be able to go to your local farmers market and by a dozen diffrent varities.and you'll have a class of petty criminals running it across borders like the old bootleggers used to do. it just stands to reason if it's legal to grow more people will grow it and the price will plummet...
 

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Dream on..... only people who stand to profit are the same..as those who profit now....... the cartels, processors and Gobment.......

Farming is NOT where the money is or will ever be......

As with all farmed product.. profits start AFTER being sold by the farmer.


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LOL. Farmers and ranchers do it all the time. One year potato prices will be high, the next year everybody and their brother grows potatoes and the market price drops because of the glut. This has been minimized now by farming associations but still happens to a degree.

The Texas drought a couple years ago caused Texas cattlemen to sell off their herds at low prices because they couldn't feed them. The next two years there was record cattle prices because of the lack of Texas beef.

You don't know much about farming and commodity prices. Farming is boom and bust based on supply. The green stuff would certainly drop in price if legalized across the country. It's extremely easy to grow, it's a weed, and lots of people would try to cash in creating a glut in supply.
 
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Damn... I've been checking out the celebrity tweets, CNN, MSNBC, and a bunch of others. They're still using the racist, sexist, xenophobic, facist, misogynistic BS. Exactly how long will they keep doing that? No one outside of their little (okay... big) circle-jerk believes that. They still haven't noticed.

This is soooo entertaining. We can't have a President that actually loves America and Americans.

They're... they're.. they're... Trumpophobic.

Trump Acceptance Rejection Disorder (TARD)
 

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Yeah, I saw that live. Makes me wonder what kind of douchebags his parents are. Kids that age don't have opinions on presidents. It's like racism.... Trump Acceptance Rejection Disorder (TARD) is taught.
 

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Reminder guys, of forum rules on drug talk, time to pick another topic, thanks:)
 
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Want a good laugh/cry? Go to the lower end of the FM dial (yeah, it's a radio) and check out NPR. I was only able to stomach the tears for a few minutes while driving home today.
 

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Want a good laugh/cry? Go to the lower end of the FM dial (yeah, it's a radio) and check out NPR. I was only able to stomach the tears for a few minutes while driving home today.
Do you have high blood pressure and need to avoid salt or something? Those tears are delicious!

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Trump is not gonna last long. Just saw this headline and if true he will be going down.

'Trump says he is at war with the media.'


The media is what got him in a position to be elected president.....

I wonder who he is appointing to head his Ministry of Truth?
 

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Trump is not gonna last long. Just saw this headline and if true he will be going down.

'Trump says he is at war with the media.'


The media is what got him in a position to be elected president.....

I wonder who he is appointing to head his Ministry of Truth?
Trump is still acting like he is campaigning its quite unnerving the media has always been this way and he knows it
 

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President Trump isn't at war with the media, he's simply calling them out on their bullshit. The fuckwit libtard based media is going to be on the losing end especially when it keeps being shown how full of crap they are. Oh no, oh no! Can you believe what that dictator Trump did?! He removed the bust of MLK from the oval office! Oh wait, derp, no some guy was just standing in front of it. Way to go Columbo, if that's all the better research and investigation they do before printing headlines they've already gone tits up and don't even know it yet. Just like the morons who tried to compare President Trump to Hitler. Yes, because Hitler was well known for having rabbi's speak at his events. Just more proof of our failing education system. Why didn't they cry anti semitism when obummer ignored Israel and allowed sanctions to take place?

Even better was the pussy parade. People protesting for rights they already have. The same women who bitch they're not taken seriously are the ones running around yapping about tampons, dressing like vaginas and yelling obscenities to everyone around them. The fugliest daring anyone to grab them. As if. Gee, can't imagine why they're not taken seriously. Not to mention it really packs a punch when declaring themselves 'modern women' by suggesting that the women can knit their own little pussy hats. Maybe they can really make a statement about how strong and independent and modern they are by running into the kitchen and baking some muffins while they're at it. Or better yet, churn some butter.

It was beyond sad that many of those 'women' (loose def) drug their kids and daughters with them. "Yes hunny, Trump is a pig for mentioning pussy. Here's how to be classy, wear a hat that makes your face look like a pussy". The left really has some incredible role models, from shillary to lena dunham to madonna to rachel madcow. God forbid they were to model themselves after people like Laura Ingraham, Ivanka Trump or Jackie Evancho.

There's definitely a strong contrast and more often than not I've begun playing a little game whenever a debate comes up involving people from the left and right to discuss a topic. Hedging bets on which one is the liberal and which is the conservative before they even speak. It's obvious in their mannerisms, how they carry themselves and how they choose to dress and portray themselves. Slouching, shabby, gaudy vs clean, classy and poised. Every once in awhile there's a draw but let's just say if it was vegas I'd be cleaning house on my predictions.
 

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Yeah, I saw that live. Makes me wonder what kind of douchebags his parents are. Kids that age don't have opinions on presidents. It's like racism.... Trump Acceptance Rejection Disorder (TARD) is taught.
at that age I knew who the President was but didn't give a shit, I was a kid doing kid stuff.
 

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just another case of a washed up celeb who thinks the law does not apply to her speech or actions. They will begin to learn the hard way I guess.
They will do a background check, audit her taxes, ask some uncomfortable questions of her circle, business partners employers, and make her think twice about doing it again, but nothing will come of it. She will sue & it will be dropped.
 
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