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[Shredtravolta]

I'm all about waviness I don't even remember when i used regular 1/3 ratio last time. I like how waviness makes it so much more smoother vape and it actually brings more flavor in my opinion

Yeah it's kinda cool how aliens have an accommodation range. Especially when your cores are all round wires imo. Even with regular alien math when you start adding cores your gonna get more of a wave cause you've got that much more area to get across. Dual 5 core aliens are a great vape, you probably know I'm a single coil guy, but when I do go dual coils 5 core aliens are one of my favorites for sure.

 

[bx10r]

Simple but effective

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[WPMac]

I dunno what it is about me but I don't like interlocks. I remember doing them... I'm a sole mech tube user... and they were just spitting hot death into my mouth and tongue. I tried different gauges, I tried regular aliens, I tried ribbon stacks, I always felt like a single tight alien binding that lays flat against the cotton did me better than interlocked anything. But I could be in the minority thinking that. I've heard both arguments from both sides, interlocking is nothing but a technique for coil porn, and I've heard interlocking does great thing to your vape. Personally it's not for me because by nature its not as tight and by nature it lifts the cores that much further from the cotton but I know a lot of people disagree with me. I think it's interesting that the same thing one builder loves is the thing another builder particularly dislikes. I guess that's the meaning of the word subjective.

They do spit pretty hard on high power set-ups. All of my unregulated are box mods with a power button, as opposed to a direct contact switch, so they take a decent hit on the power that actually hits the coil. Honestly though I primarily vape VV-VW devices on anything that isn't a flat alien or Framed Staple.

 

[WPMac]

Been a bit since I've sat at the drill. But I was inspired by THT.
The interlocks are a little loose. Muscle memory is shot lol
5x30 SS, 40 Ni80, 3mm ID, .12 ohm dual coil in the KTX

 

[Carambrda]

I dunno what it is about me but I don't like interlocks. I remember doing them... I'm a sole mech tube user... and they were just spitting hot death into my mouth and tongue. I tried different gauges, I tried regular aliens, I tried ribbon stacks, I always felt like a single tight alien binding that lays flat against the cotton did me better than interlocked anything. But I could be in the minority thinking that. I've heard both arguments from both sides, interlocking is nothing but a technique for coil porn, and I've heard interlocking does great thing to your vape. Personally it's not for me because by nature its not as tight and by nature it lifts the cores that much further from the cotton but I know a lot of people disagree with me. I think it's interesting that the same thing one builder loves is the thing another builder particularly dislikes. I guess that's the meaning of the word subjective.

On a single battery mech, for me it's still 27/36 Ni80 dual coil aliens 4.5 wraps 2.5mm ID or bust. To get the best flavor, they need to crackle so loudly that you can no longer hear the person next to you talk about coil porn.

 

[DonBaldy]

Not my build. Bought these Aliens from Vaperoxx. They are beautiful coils. Told him they were going into a Recurve and the legs were cut to the perfect length. Not sure if it was a happy accident or by design. Either way, I'm more than pleased with these.

Vaperoxx aliens. by Wayne, on Flickr

 

[Shredtravolta]

 

[IcepickMaker84]

Tried making Clapton wire today, it took a few tries to get enough to make this coil but I’m happy with it. Single 24g kanthal core with 30g wrap.



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[IcepickMaker84]

Now I can really see where the wraps got sloppy. It came out to .63 and while the ramp up is slow the taste is excellent...I’ll call it a win for my first attempt. Also tried making one with a 26g inner/ 34g outer and it didn’t go well.




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[chrisakasparky]

Now I can really see where the wraps got sloppy. It came out to .63 and while the ramp up is slow the taste is excellent...I’ll call it a win for my first attempt. Also tried making one with a 26g inner/ 34g outer and it didn’t go well.

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Can’t you just taste the hard work? Good job! Don’t be afraid of the 34g (assuming you’re using a swivel), just hold it like a foot from the core when you spin the drill, spin it a little faster than u think u should, and don’t focus on where the core wire meets the wrap wire. Focus on the angle of the wrap wire and the spinning core wire. That works for me anyways, maybe it’ll work for you!

 

[WPMac]

Rough wrap, rough pics. So out of practice ...
Groove fused 1/2 fork
32g core, 38g clap, .3r, 42g fuse, all ni80, 3mm ID, .12 ohm dual coil in the TM24

 

[midknight420]

Tried my hand at my first fused clapton. Started out ok, then wraps got spaced. Want happy with it at all. Sadly I can try again atm. I have to get a drill key, my drill is old school LOL. Will have to wait till I can get one in Thursday before I can try again.

Any suggestions on what I can do to fix the spacing issue? I really want to get this down. Been wanting to try a small fused clapton in my Thereom. Am trying to make a 2×28g/38g for my first one.

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[WPMac]

Tried my hand at my first fused clapton. Started out ok, then wraps got spaced. Want happy with it at all. Sadly I can try again atm. I have to get a drill key, my drill is old school LOL. Will have to wait till I can get one in Thursday before I can try again.
Any suggestions on what I can do to fix the spacing issue? I really want to get this down. Been wanting to try a small fused clapton in my Thereom. Am trying to make a 2×28g/38g for my first one.

Fuse tension and angle are everything. Fuse tension directly affects angle. If the tension changes then level of the cores will change which changes the angle at which the fuse is contacting the cores. So ... CONSTANT EVEN tension is key!! This applies to your drill hand tension as well.

Best tips I can think of for starting out-

-If you don't have swivels ... my first suggestion would be get some swivels lol. You can make perfect claps without them. It's just SO MUCH easier with swivels. You can get a 25 pack of cheapo walmart ball bearing swivels for like $2-3 (usd). If you don't have/want swivels let me know and we can talk about how you fuse and I'll throw some tips out for yah. I spent a while on the drill before I picked up my first set of swivels. I know others here have done free hand as well.
-First and foremost (and this will apply to almost everything you ever decide to do with wire), don't try to force the wire to do what you want it to do. Well spooled wire typically wants to lay all nice and neat. It just needs guidance and coaxing.
-Hold your fuse wire a good 8+ inches away from the cores. When I'm doing claps I set my fuse hand on my leg. It's at least 1'6" away. The further away it is the less moving your hand affects the angle. This leaves a lot more room for error while you move down the stick.
-Soft hands. This has 2 applications. 1)More than likely you need to lighten up your grip on the fuse wire (or spool if you fuse from the spool) a bit. The tighter you hold the wire the harder it is to keep even tension. 2)Smooth skin means the wire/spool has a smooth constant surface to slip through. You can use a plastic baggy, or a little juice, to achieve this as well.
-Where the fuse and the cores meet should be a damn near perfect "T" to make a 90 degree angle.
-Practice!! This is a learned skill. Just like with any learned skill the more you do it the better you get at it.
-Be ready to get frustrated. If you want clean and pretty coils then you'll have to put some work in to learn. That includes all coils both "simple" and complex. Imperfect coils vape just fine. Even ugly fuse jobs vape just fine.

We are here to help. Any questions will be answered!!

 

[midknight420]

Fuse tension and angle are everything. Fuse tension directly affects angle. If the tension changes then level of the cores will change which changes the angle at which the fuse is contacting the cores. So ... CONSTANT EVEN tension is key!! This applies to your drill hand tension as well.

Best tips I can think of for starting out-

-If you don't have swivels ... my first suggestion would be get some swivels lol. You can make perfect claps without them. It's just SO MUCH easier with swivels. You can get a 25 pack of cheapo walmart ball bearing swivels for like $2-3 (usd). If you don't have/want swivels let me know and we can talk about how you fuse and I'll throw some tips out for yah. I spent a while on the drill before I picked up my first set of swivels. I know others here have done free hand as well.
-First and foremost (and this will apply to almost everything you ever decide to do with wire), don't try to force the wire to do what you want it to do. Well spooled wire typically wants to lay all nice and neat. It just needs guidance and coaxing.
-Hold your fuse wire a good 8+ inches away from the cores. When I'm doing claps I set my fuse hand on my leg. It's at least 1'6" away. The further away it is the less moving your hand affects the angle. This leaves a lot more room for error while you move down the stick.
-Soft hands. This has 2 applications. 1)More than likely you need to lighten up your grip on the fuse wire (or spool if you fuse from the spool) a bit. The tighter you hold the wire the harder it is to keep even tension. 2)Smooth skin means the wire/spool has a smooth constant surface to slip through. You can use a plastic baggy, or a little juice, to achieve this as well.
-Where the fuse and the cores meet should be a damn near perfect "T" to make a 90 degree angle.
-Practice!! This is a learned skill. Just like with any learned skill the more you do it the better you get at it.
-Be ready to get frustrated. If you want clean and pretty coils then you'll have to put some work in to learn. That includes all coils both "simple" and complex. Imperfect coils vape just fine. Even ugly fuse jobs vape just fine.

We are here to help. Any questions will be answered!!

Thanks so much for the advice. That was allot of info that will help ALLOT. I'll be getting a new drill on payday (Thursday). With this info, I can't wait to try again. I'll keep y'all posted on my next attempt and progress.

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[midknight420]

I forgot to take a pic before I put everything back together, but I decided to install my fc into the Thereom tank. Was able to drop the wattage down 10 more from 40 to 30w. The vapor production is even better there than at 40w with a regular round wire build and even before the cotton is broken in, the flavor is already on past with the round wire. Will be better after the cotton breaks in. Made a 2×28g/38g fc 3mm id, 6 wraps ka1. After dry burn and wick it can to .7Ω

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[Severinomotta]

Hey you guys, how ya'all doing?

Last few days tried some builds... A grooved that was a pain in the ass. Use some 46g in the 40g gap (kinda hard due to my lack os skills). Everytime i try high gauges always think about @raymo2u and say: damn, how da hell he pull out
those builds? lol

After two sticks shooting for two coils in each i ended up with two coils. So, half is fine to me

But... after the struggle to build the grooved, dind't preset the legs of the coil to the Lit, so it all ended up kind of messy :/

But. Okay okay, (what can i do? lol)

Oh! Also put some colors in a old build. Think they look okay

 

[Severinomotta]

Rough wrap, rough pics. So out of practice ...
Groove fused 1/2 fork
32g core, 38g clap, .3r, 42g fuse, all ni80, 3mm ID, .12 ohm dual coil in the TM24
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Those are great, man. (hands together)

 

[WPMac]

Hey you guys, how ya'all doing?

Last few days tried some builds... A grooved that was a pain in the ass. Use some 46g in the 40g gap (kinda hard due to my lack os skills). Everytime i try high gauges always think about @raymo2u and say: damn, how da hell he pull out
those builds? lol

After two sticks shooting for two coils in each i ended up with two coils. So, half is fine to me

But... after the struggle to build the grooved, dind't preset the legs of the coil to the Lit, so it all ended up kind of messy :/

But. Okay okay, (what can i do? lol)

Oh! Also put some colors in a old build. Think they look okay

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Love ribbon stitched hedgehogs!! YOu should try stitching with .3 sometime. Since it's stiffer it tends to push out a little more towards the peaks of the loops. It also fills in a lot more of the open space. Instead of loops around a piece of ribbon it looks more like raised nubs across armor plating. Here's an old pic of it from this thread. I don't remember how long ago I posted this and I don't feel like digging. So I'm just going to throw it up again. I called it an armadillo
If I remember correctly it is a 13 ply 28g framed staple 36g decore and .3 stitch. And I'm pretty sure I oversized the decore by a gauge or two.

 

[The_hat_trix]

Hey you guys, how ya'all doing?

Last few days tried some builds... A grooved that was a pain in the ass. Use some 46g in the 40g gap (kinda hard due to my lack os skills). Everytime i try high gauges always think about @raymo2u and say: damn, how da hell he pull out
those builds? lol

After two sticks shooting for two coils in each i ended up with two coils. So, half is fine to me

But... after the struggle to build the grooved, dind't preset the legs of the coil to the Lit, so it all ended up kind of messy :/

But. Okay okay, (what can i do? lol)

Oh! Also put some colors in a old build. Think they look okay

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Holy mother of god those colors one of the best colored build I've seen not even joking !

 

[Shredtravolta]

 

[akpostal]

No where near the level of a lot of y'all. My first try at twisted coils. Came in at .18.

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[midknight420]

No where near the level of a lot of y'all. My first try at twisted coils. Came in at .18.

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Those look nice! My first non round wire coil was twisted. Then someone told me about chain link coils. Once you twist thewires, reverse the drill and slowly spin theother way a bit. Will look little bit like a chain. Will give a bit more surface area, a little more flavor added, and a bit of crackle when you vape too. Wow, talking about those, I might have to make one LOL. Those were some great albeit simple coils to build. I'll be curious to know what you think if you try one out

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[Severinomotta]

Holy mother of god those colors one of the best colored build I've seen not even joking !

Lol. Thanks very much man. Still learning, but some (few) times things goes right

 

[Severinomotta]

Love ribbon stitched hedgehogs!! YOu should try stitching with .3 sometime. Since it's stiffer it tends to push out a little more towards the peaks of the loops. It also fills in a lot more of the open space. Instead of loops around a piece of ribbon it looks more like raised nubs across armor plating. Here's an old pic of it from this thread. I don't remember how long ago I posted this and I don't feel like digging. So I'm just going to throw it up again. I called it an armadillo
If I remember correctly it is a 13 ply 28g framed staple 36g decore and .3 stitch. And I'm pretty sure I oversized the decore by a gauge or two.
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Hey WP, coincidence you say that.
The same day i build the .2 i did a .3 also. But the cores were a little bigger than the .2 and the build didn't fit im my few attys, lol. Will try it again soon but lowering the core specs
And thanks for your quote, besides beeing a great builder you're a always helpfull colleague full of precious tips

 

[WPMac]

No where near the level of a lot of y'all. My first try at twisted coils. Came in at .18.

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Just because they aren't intricate or difficult does not mean they can't be pretty. One of the fantastic things about coils is their diversity in both aesthetics and function. Some crazy intricate coil can vape like shit. And some basic twists can vape like a dream. And I've seen some straight wire coils that look amazing. And some super clean builds, that are extremely difficult, that just don't quite please the eye.

Never think down on your work just because you feel it's not on a high enough skill level. One of the hardest lessons for me to learn in this hobby was - There will always be someone more skilled than me. If I base my satisfaction of my work by comparing it to others than I will burn out and bum out real quick. Yes, I should strive for 'better than the last time'. And I always notice the mistakes. But I need to be happy with what did go right and use it to better myself.

 

[akpostal]

Those look nice! My first non round wire coil was twisted. Then someone told me about chain link coils. Once you twist thewires, reverse the drill and slowly spin theother way a bit. Will look little bit like a chain. Will give a bit more surface area, a little more flavor added, and a bit of crackle when you vape too. Wow, talking about those, I might have to make one LOL. Those were some great albeit simple coils to build. I'll be curious to know what you think if you try one out

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Just because they aren't intricate or difficult does not mean they can't be pretty. One of the fantastic things about coils is their diversity in both aesthetics and function. Some crazy intricate coil can vape like shit. And some basic twists can vape like a dream. And I've seen some straight wire coils that look amazing. And some super clean builds, that are extremely difficult, that just don't quite please the eye.

Never think down on your work just because you feel it's not on a high enough skill level. One of the hardest lessons for me to learn in this hobby was - There will always be someone more skilled than me. If I base my satisfaction of my work by comparing it to others than I will burn out and bum out real quick. Yes, I should strive for 'better than the last time'. And I always notice the mistakes. But I need to be happy with what did go right and use it to better myself.

Thanks yall.

Im extremely happy with how these came out, definite improvement in flavor and vapor over the single wire coils Ive made prior.

 

[Severinomotta]

Just because they aren't intricate or difficult does not mean they can't be pretty. One of the fantastic things about coils is their diversity in both aesthetics and function. Some crazy intricate coil can vape like shit. And some basic twists can vape like a dream. And I've seen some straight wire coils that look amazing. And some super clean builds, that are extremely difficult, that just don't quite please the eye.

Never think down on your work just because you feel it's not on a high enough skill level. One of the hardest lessons for me to learn in this hobby was - There will always be someone more skilled than me. If I base my satisfaction of my work by comparing it to others than I will burn out and bum out real quick. Yes, I should strive for 'better than the last time'. And I always notice the mistakes. But I need to be happy with what did go right and use it to better myself.

Amen to that

 

[Shredtravolta]

Had to finally make a coil for myself in the midst of all the building I’ve been doing.

 

[akpostal]

Liked it so much I made another.

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[bx10r]

Estatic..i finally got iy perfect

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[midknight420]

Just got these installed. Dual fused claptons from @Shredtravolta. Cotton isn't even broken in yet and WOW! Rockin it in the Bonza on top of the NCII-25 in series. The flavor and clouds are INSANE! I can't wait for this cotton to break in to see how the flavor jumps up then. Thanks allot man.

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[MrMeowgi]

Estatic..i finally got iy perfect

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Sweet dude

 

[Carambrda]

fralien

 

[Shredtravolta]

Just got these installed. Dual fused claptons from @Shedtravolta. Cotton isn't even broken in yet and WOW! Rockin it in the Bonza on top of the NCII-25 in series. The flavor and clouds are INSANE! I can't wait for this cotton to break in to see how the flavor jumps up then. Thanks allot man.

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Thanks for the kind words brother! There’s a lot of talent on this thread. I’m just happy to be a very small part of it.

 

[midknight420]

Thanks for the kind words brother! There’s a lot of talent on this thread. I’m just happy to be a very small part of it.

You'll find that as you get to know me, that I'm not prone to much exaggeration. After installing these, they hit like a Mack Truck. Can't wait for this new juice to come in. I'm putting a Fralien into the Combo RDTA when it does. I think this will be nuts LOL

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[Shredtravolta]

You'll find that as you get to know me, that I'm not prone to much exaggeration. After installing these, they hit like a Mack Truck. Can't wait for this new juice to come in. I'm putting a Fralien into the Combo RDTA when it does. I think this will be nuts LOL

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Well I’ll accept some small bit of credit in the sense that I’m an effective, efficient, very functional builder. I try to find a balance between flavor and clouds and I have a good idea regarding building for vaping. But I have to give a lot of credit to all the other amazing builders that frequent this thread. There’s so much talent here and it’s inspirational. I’m sure as you continue to practice building it will only be a matter of time before you’re a great builder yourself!!

 

[midknight420]

Well I’ll accept some small bit of credit in the sense that I’m an effective, efficient, very functional builder. I try to find a balance between flavor and clouds and I have a good idea regarding building for vaping. But I have to give a lot of credit to all the other amazing builders that frequent this thread. There’s so much talent here and it’s inspirational. I’m sure as you continue to practice building it will only be a matter of time before you’re a great builder yourself!!

I have to agree, there are many great builders here. I have been around VU for a few years and watched many builders come up from rudimentary builds to advanced. I, myself, am just wanting to venture out to bigger and better things. I have all these great people here to thank for that and look forward to see where this will take me

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[Shredtravolta]

I have to agree, there are many great builders here. I have been around VU for a few years and watched many builders come up from rudimentary builds to advanced. I, myself, am just wanting to venture out to bigger and better things. I have all these great people here to thank for that and look forward to see where this will take me

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Yea for sure shout out to @CrazyChef v2.0 @mach1ne @raymo2u @WPMac @zephyr @Severinomotta @The_hat_trix @KarmicRage and to all that came before. I know for a fact there are builders I am leaving out but these are 8 STRAIGHT KILLERS. Each with a unique style and variety in what they aspects of building they emphasize.

Sometimes I have to smack myself when any of these builders reach out to me and treat me as part of the “community” or compliment me because what has been years of practice building with the intention of one day posting beside them seems like a mere collection of moments. But I’ve taken something for the better from each one of these individuals and without any one of them the forum just wouldn’t be as great as it is. This post is for them.

 

[Carambrda]

Yeah it's kinda cool how aliens have an accommodation range. Especially when your cores are all round wires imo. Even with regular alien math when you start adding cores your gonna get more of a wave cause you've got that much more area to get across. Dual 5 core aliens are a great vape, you probably know I'm a single coil guy, but when I do go dual coils 5 core aliens are one of my favorites for sure.

For this fralien build I used 28g to make my 38g decore. With 5ply .3 ribbon and 29g for the frames, all Ni80 at 3.5mm ID my single coil came out to .4 ohms, and I think the waviness is just perfect... or well at least it vapes that way so...

 

[Shredtravolta]

For this fralien build I used 28g to make my 38g decore. With 5ply .3 ribbon and 29g for the frames, all Ni80 at 3.5mm ID my single coil came out to .4 ohms, and I think the waviness is just perfect... or well at least it vapes that way so...

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That’s cool man, looks like a great Fralien. I can tell that’s a series tube. Really nice looking mod. Very nice wrapping technique too.

 

[gsmit1]

Hey WP, coincidence you say that.
The same day i build the .2 i did a .3 also. But the cores were a little bigger than the .2 and the build didn't fit im my few attys, lol. Will try it again soon but lowering the core specs
And thanks for your quote, besides beeing a great builder you're a always helpfull colleague full of precious tips
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What did you do here? Did you somehow feed those two parallel decores and the ribbon around the frames together?

 

[chrisakasparky]

What did you do here? Did you somehow feed those two parallel decores and the ribbon around the frames together?

I believe it’s ribbon stitched interlock hedgehog, or 2 wires parallel claptoned and decored with a piece of ribbon through the middle of the decore, then hedgehog fused (enigma with two peaks). Lol it’s awesome

 

[chrisakasparky]

Haven’t posted much lately, but I’ve been looking.. everyone is really pushing it wow! New builders are coming on, experienced builders are joining in, and the old faithful builders of all levels just keep making leaps. Awesome.
Here’s a pic of what I’ve been vaping lately, Some framed staples. 8ply .3, 30g frames, 40g wrap. My quick and easy goto build lately.

 

[Carambrda]

That’s cool man, looks like a great Fralien. I can tell that’s a series tube. Really nice looking mod. Very nice wrapping technique too.

What I like most about this specific coil/setup using the seriously top-performance (for both flavor and clouds) 24mm Deathtrap RDA by Deathwish Modz is I can have a truly warm, wet, dense, saturated flavorful vape that's thoroughly fulfilling me, but without excessively guzzling up juice, and that can last me up to 7-8 hours on just a single pair of Vapcell Gold 20700 cells in a series mech mod. Some juices I find can benefit enormously from such a warm wet vape so that they're finally brought to life and so they become vapable (and become actually even really great instead of just lacking full-bodiedness in some certain way, IMO anyway...) include: Twelve Monkeys ─ Congo Cream, Twelve Monkeys Origins ─ Saimiri, Illusions ─ Crimson, Kilo Black Series ─ Apple Pie, Beard ─ Custard With a Dash of Custard, and Loaded ─ Chocolate Glazed.

 

[WPMac]

No snappy quip this morning. Few hiccups here and there. But overall I'm happy with the final product. Honestly the thing that's KILLING my sense of accomplishment is the ribbon stack not laying flat
Cores -
9 ply mixed alloy .3, 28g Ni80 frames, 38g Ni80 stag/fuse
Hybrid (inside out) -
36g Ni80 stag, 42g Ni80 para-fuse
46g KD ribbon fuse
3mm ID, .08 ohm dual coil in the KTX

 

[Shredtravolta]

 

[VAPEROXX]

Some Aliens, Interlocking Aliens, and Fraliens for our friend @wllmc

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/wts-wtt-aspex-performance-coils.434798/

 

[chrisakasparky]

Some Aliens, Interlocking Aliens, and Fraliens for our friend @wllmc

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/wts-wtt-aspex-performance-coils.434798/

Those are some seriously wavy aliens man!

 

[VAPEROXX]

Those are some seriously wavy aliens man!

I use a gauge up on my decore. Where you'd normally do a 3:1 decore I always go a gauge larger. For example; if I'm making a 3x26 core Alien, I use a 24 gauge decore. Same thing on Fraliens. If you'd normally wrap with a 26 decore, I use a 24. Sometimes even a 22. Like those Fraliens pictured. That's a 2x26 frames, 9x.4x.1 core Fralien with a 22 gauge decore wrap.

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/wts-wtt-aspex-performance-coils.434798/

 

[St.Roostifer]

Nothing fancy. Just some 3*26/36 aliens for my Blitzen rta. All KA1.

Edit: build came out to a .14 and hitting it at 72W.