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  1. mojo21

    mojo21 New Member

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    So finished a couple ss 3 core alien with pre stretch method to get used to it from now on . I figure if I keep them smaller for a single coil each de-core then I don't need to worry about snags. Anyway all I got to say about ss is holy low ohms ! Compared to my same setup with ka1 and n80 ! .20 compared to .27

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  2. mojo21

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    Here it is[​IMG]

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  3. zephyr

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    Awesome!!!!
     
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  4. chrisakasparky

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    Looks great! A lot of us do one coil worth of decore at a time, nothing wrong with that. I use a little clothespin to start my second decore in the middle of a stick.
    And yea that same build will have lower ohms so more power. If it’s too much you can add a wrap.
    Also, if you’re running a mod with one battery, be careful. 0.20 ohms is right at the amperage limit of a single good 18650 on a mech mod.
     
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  5. chrisakasparky

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    I’m really liking these little aliens! I finally found a dual build i like that I can use for my mech pulse. Perfect ..13 ohms per pair
    4x30g, 38g all ss316l 3mm id
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  6. zephyr

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    Mixed n80 and ss, oooh

    IMG_20180713_000832_1~2.jpg

    That 26g outer frame was supposed to be on the opposite side lol, oh well

    .4 ribbon, 29ss and 26 ss frames, 36n80+ss

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  7. chrisakasparky

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    Awesome! SS colors are great huh? I really gotta try some mixed up builds that’s really cool! I wanna see how it glows!
     
  8. zephyr

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    It's incredible, I want to get a super close up of part of this

    Now I'm gonna try making an alien staggerton for shred with this .4 ribbon
     
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  9. Shredtravolta

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    My first Tsuka attempt IMG_1098.jpg
     
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  12. KingPin!

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    Very cool shred! Congrats

    Always wondered if tsukas spit badly let me know your thoughts :cheers:
     
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  13. zephyr

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    :zombie: fruit stripe gum
    IMG_20180713_024034~2.jpg IMG_20180713_023625.jpg

    Man...hard lol...i let the ribbon roll on one side cause F it, almost 3 am gosh

    0.11 ohms though, next one is all n80 wrap shred!

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  14. Shredtravolta

    Shredtravolta VU Donator Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    I can't lie to you King. It's not the greatest vape. I did it just to challenge myself and see if I could complete the build. Turned out it really wasn't that hard using Ndevine83's tutorial on them. They are more for the look of it than anything else.
     
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  15. Shredtravolta

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    Looks great Meg! I'm still practicing just the round wire version I find that the challenge is really getting the spacing close enough on the first pass so that after you do the second pass and coil it, it doesn't look like a bunch of Buk**kee.:coffee:
     
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    great you ticked it off the list though mate :cheers:never tried them myself ...many thanks I tend to stick to stuff I can vape so it’s good to know they are a coil porn build
     
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  17. Shredtravolta

    Shredtravolta VU Donator Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    Yeah I know what you mean. I'm in love with the idea of being able to create a build I have never done before. None the less I would say 98% of the coils I build are just for show. I don't actually vape them. I usually give them away. Sometimes I'll mail a coil to someone and say hey if you like the vape you can donate at ....... and I give them my paypal but I never demand money. The only coil I actually vape is a 6 ply .5/ 26g frame/36-38g decore off a 26g wire Fralien. Ohms at about .13. That's the vape I enjoy the most.:D
     
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  18. william.osendott

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    was planning to make an N80 version of this build last night and ran out of energy and will by the time I got off work lol ended up just taking a 5 core I had already made and paralleling with another 28g core. maybe tonight I'll get home early enough to do a proper 6 core. very nice job on the build man! I'm way out of practice on aliens, hell never was in practice really.

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  19. Shredtravolta

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    Kinda looks like a hybrid the way the inner wraps are tight and the outer wraps are a little more spaced. Actually came out very cool!:banana:
     
  20. Shredtravolta

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    IMO opinion once you get past the basic principals of aliening the main factors become your stretch and consistent tension on the cores with the binding decore. If your tension is all over the place your binding will be too. That's what I mainly focus on. But yeah, @chrisakasparky is one hell of an alien maker.:)
     
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  21. CrazyChef v2.0

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    I keep mine hanging on a curtain rod attached to the wall. I put some masking tape on the bar to keep them from slipping off.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I tried it one time. I was definitely not impressed with the flavor, so I never bothered to try it again. They're pretty, but really don't perform well. At least for me it didn't.

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  23. Shredtravolta

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    I agree with you completely. Your's came out really nice thou.
     
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    Now that I think about it, they might actually perform better with smaller ribbon. I have some 0.2 that I might try. I think the one I pictured is 0.5
     
  25. Shredtravolta

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    I actually ordered .2 ribbon (a relatively small amount) because that's how Ndevine83 did it in his tutorial. IMO the vape still wasn't great. I mean it is vapable. I just can't see anyone preffering it over an alien coil, or a framed staple, or even a fused clapton to be honest.
     
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    Here's a better pic. You can easily fit over 100 decores in a very small space this way. When I have more than 2 types (that's all my brain can remember), I'll put a sticky note on the wall behind it saying what they are.

    [​IMG]
     
  27. chrisakasparky

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    I saw this pic before and thought you boiled your decores and hung them up to dry or something heh
     
  28. BoostedTrini

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    I've built Tsukas with 0.3 as the wrap. It isn't as good as a 3 core Alien but the flavor wasn't bad by any means. The issue was the cotton was center burning after a day or two of use and after 3 re-wicks the flavor was non existent. As a coil that'll be worth the build I won't recommend them.
     
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    A little update on my quad core Alien testing. The quad 28/36 Aliens perform better than my small Alien Framed Staples(6-.3 30g Framed), better than triple 28, 27 and even 26 at the 120-130 mark. They aren't as smooth as the Alien Framed Staples or even the triple cores but the vape has more "depth" to it. Flavor has more of a full body to it, if that makes sense. So far I'm testing them in NI80 and SS316L...same spec for both.
     
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  30. Shredtravolta

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    I would suggest trying a single coil build. I'm a sole mech mod user, but my favorite vape is a larger Alien Framed Staple done with at least 6plys of .5 ribbon. I like 26g frames and 36-38 alien binding. You could take that decore off 24-26g depending on how wavy you want the wraps to be and what your comfort level is in terms of stretch. I just find that with the larger Alien Frames Staples you get more depth that if you were to use .3 ribbon for example. The build I'm suggesting comes out to about .12 - .14 using N80 and about .08 - .10 using stainless steel. Only a suggestion. I've tried making four and five core aliens also and they do vape great as well.
     
  31. Carambrda

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    At 4.5 wraps, 2.5mm ID, dual coil on a single battery mech is where triple 27/36 Ni80 aliens are king of the hill for me. It is still a smooth vape, but not so smooth that it flattens out the nice soft texture feel... so IMO it is a lively vape as opposed to an anemic one, and, as for the flavor yes of course you can bet both shoes on that it makes all the perfect sense in the universe to always want a full body instead of an empty one. :)
     
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  32. zephyr

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    Staggertons
    6x.4 kanthal ribbon
    29g SS frames
    46g kanthal fuse

    0.1 ohm dual coils

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    ⬆️Trying to show the frames' color

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  33. zephyr

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    It's a uhh...tsuka...something

    I'm gonna call it a fuzzy caterpillar tsuka

    0.3/46 kanthal
    3x26SS

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    New Fralien, wrapped backwards for the orientation of the posts on the Intake RTA. [​IMG]

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  35. zephyr

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    I can't decide what to build next. I never had that problem with beer "oh which beer should I drink next"

    Edit: sorry for the noise - two core mohawks
     
  36. chrisakasparky

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    My first try at stitched alien. Out of 8 inches of stick, I managed this coil hehe. Maybe a smaller decore next time.
    2x30g, 12x.3R, 36g/40g
    All N80, 3mm id, .14 ohms
    [​IMG]
     
  37. mojo21

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    I didn't no that. Thx for the tip

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  38. mojo21

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    Holy shit that looks like a crazy build
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    Very nice

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    Thx for ur review. I myself seem to like the alien 3 core over the framed staple so far but I've only tried one once. It was .4 ×6- 26 frame wrapped with 36
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    What is that build ?
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    That picture was during the process of this, it's a ribbon alien staggerton

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    Pretty nice for a first shot bro. ! I'm just trying to do my first frame staple and it freaking hard to set up ! I've been trying the raymo way and it's just not working out . Any idea if his videos is posted anywhere so I can watch it again ?

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    Ribbon so small !! I can't even tell if its stacked and Inbetween my frames when I'm trying to wrap it

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    Jesus !

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    Wanted to thx u for all the good nfo u give on this site . I'm getting used to the pre-stretching thing now so hopefully when I can line up my stick with my frames I'll get it sometime. I totally see what u mean by stretching to the max! . It makes a big diff. !
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    You got a whole coil your First Try??? That's rad. I think all I got my first try was a bunch of wire gnarls and a full swear jar
     
  49. chrisakasparky

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    Definitely do the looped ribbons for your first staple imo. You cut ribbons twice as long as you want and half as many and then bend them in half in a u shape. It’s waaaay easier to stack ribbon with the loop I think. Try to find a video maybe.
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    The one on the left
     
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    I think that might be a better option to start out cuz raymo way is harder than it looks . I think I almost had it set up right but not sure .

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