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  1. Wtmke1

    Wtmke1 Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    No shit? Damn learn something new everyday. So if the coil is like the picture then there's a half wrap. That shit always confused me. Thanks man

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  2. Wtmke1

    Wtmke1 Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    Did you find it harder to mount that build in the deck with the plates instead of holes for the wire? I just got an apacolypse with the same setup. It took a few minutes to get the coils right.

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  3. twan013

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    Yes, and no. My first attempt I tried getting it perfect and I couldn't figure out how to get to coils in there evenly. Then I looked up a video where this guy basically just crammed the coils in and tightened them down before clipping the leads and everything just kinda fell into place.

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    I like 4 Wraps (including the half wraps) and 3mm ID for any mech...fast ramp and fast cool down.

    Like this:
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  5. Wtmke1

    Wtmke1 Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    Just like that huh? If I could build like that I'd quit my day job. Ha ha

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  6. KarmicRage

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    Again with those alien staggertons eh @raymo2u? Haha. Look amazing la.

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  7. raymo2u

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    Stay in this thread, ask questions on what is being difficult, think what could fix the issue or whats causing them, and join my livestreams on Instagram in the morning....we'll get you there;)

    Yessir

    A few more months and I will have a youtube channel dedicated to teaching people my tips/tricks and things....I want it to be a clean video from the start...like RipTrippers older build videos before he became a personality...but for now I try and do livestreams that teach people certain things and people can see my processes, most of which are pretty different then what other builders do and I believe its much faster, more refined and easier to build just about anything...I do save the streams so they are up for 24 hours in my story just incase you cant make the streams (usually around 9-11am Eastern US Time)
     
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  8. KarmicRage

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    I'll have to join Instagram myself then. Have to get me a set of those bad boys in my device lol. I agree with ya on the rip trippers videos as well. I used to enjoy his vids until he started being overly enthusiastic about everything. Seems too fake to me like

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    I already had an old Instagram it turns out :/ Would mind giving us a PM when your next tutorial goes up? I'm not overly active on the social media scene but would like to watch your methods on building and such.

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  10. raymo2u

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    Just follow me and at then turn on notifications and it will send you a alert the moment I stream every time

    https://www.instagram.com/raymo_2_u/

    In the app, go on my page @Raymo_2_u, Tap the settings (3 dot button on the top right) and it should say turn on notifications or something)...just enable that and your good to go.
     
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  11. KarmicRage

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    Ah is right la. Sorted. Didn't even know ya could do that haha

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    Made 3 sets of these today.

    Fralien 2x28ss316L / 6x0.3 NC80 / 40ss316L

    Kinda wish I would have spaced the wrap a tiny bit, merely for asthetic purposes. Wish the ribbon cores showed up better on camera.

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  14. mach1ne

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    had an urge to build some of my new stuff at about 4am...some of which has been sitting around for months waiting, others more recent...
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    ^4x30g aliens on boreas deck

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    6x.3mm staple for series on peerless

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    ^alien framed staple on dead rabbit/frankenskull

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    ^28/38 aliens on hastur

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    ^dual deck build in the thor tank (fused claptons for regulated series)

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    BKTOAD Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    Made a small pile of aliens today. 3x28/40 ss316L.

    What makes these special is I have always used ribbon sliders in the past. Took the training wheels off and got, I feel like, much more consistent spacing in the wrap. Nevermind the ugly legs on some of them. Pretty sure those will disappear on the next alien build session.

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  16. CrazyChef v2.0

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    Very nice, tight coils! If the first 2mm of the wrap are coming out okay, you can pretty much open up the drill full throttle and let 'er rip. No need for training wheels.
     
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    26g pen-twisted. Been running this pretty heavy for a few days. If you look close you can see that the top of the coil is black, and I wanna say I've noticed a slight decrease in performance. So, my question: rebuild, dry burn and rewick, or leave it be?[​IMG]

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    BKTOAD Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    Never hurts to dry burn and re-wick.

    Especially if flavor isn’t as crisp and ramp up slows.
     
  19. Wtmke1

    Wtmke1 Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    Parallel fused Clapton. Broken troll. .31 ohms[​IMG]

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    Parallel clapton, n80, ohmed out to 0.11. No flavor unfortunately. I don't know if 60w is too high and it's just killing it or what. Does it need a break in period?

    Also, I want to put this on a mech but not sure if it's a good idea. According to steam engine, I shouldn't go much lower than 0.2. But I've seen people go down to 0.07 and they call it safe. Vtc5a for the battery. [​IMG]

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    Probably needs a lot higher wattage. But try not to scorch your wick... just open up more airflow accordingly by adjusting the air holes as you increase the wattage. (I usually like it 2/3 of the way open.)

    As for vaping a .11 ohms build on a single battery tube mech. I find that .1 - .11 is around the sweet spot with the VTC5A. You could go lower, but then you would be taxing the VTC5A more whilst gaining just so little in return. Mooch's MVA (Maximum Vaping Amps) ratings are for both regulated mods and mech mods, BUT... this MVA rating is assuming something can go wrong with the mod causing the mod to start to continuously fire (auto-firing) so that the battery gets discharged continuously as a result of this problem with the mod. So if you want to exceed the MVA rating of your battery on a mech, then logically you are assuming your mech will never start auto-firing on you. That's why you need to know and understand the mechanics of your mech first. Secondly, after you've thoroughly convinced yourself that your mech is not the kind of mech the button on which might get stuck, etc., you need to make sure that the "convinced yourself" part here isn't based on wishful thinking. lol

    Finally, you need to know a few more things about batteries. For example, learn about other important battery safety factors. For example, learn why keeping the shrink wrap and insulator ring of the battery in perfect condition is far more important than avoiding .07 ohms coil builds is. For another example, if the battery is fully charged, on a mech you will be drawing more amps from the battery compared to when the battery isn't fully charged. What this means is it is probably a good idea to not immediately start to chain vape like mad on a battery fully charged. At .1 -.11 ohms on a single VTC5A it is possible to chain vape─if you don't exaggerate. Take it easy and give the battery a chance to cool down so it never gets too warm. Your battery will love you for it. With a brass or copper tube mech, if there is no insulating layer on the inside that keeps the warmth of the battery from spreading into the mod (except of course the shrink wrap of the battery itself), then you'll notice the mod starts to feel warm. Usually it is because your atty is hot and the heat spreads into the mod. When that happens you can pull the battery out of the mod and feel if the battery is warm. If the battery is just lukewarm or slightly warmer than lukewarm, then as long as the battery doesn't get much warmer than that, there is no real reason to worry about overheating the battery when vaping at .1 -.11 ohms on a single VTC5A battery. Familiarize yourself with how fast / how slowly the battery warms up, and, at all times just try to avoid battery temperatures reaching much higher than 45°C / 113°F. Get a multimeter and use it to measure the voltage of the battery every time as well... whilst using Ohm's law on that. Also learn what voltage sag means (not measurable with a simple multimeter, but you can look at Mooch's pulse graphs... they give you an indication of how far the voltage sags for a given pulsed current of xx amps─fixed amps─for your specific battery).
     
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  22. CrazyChef v2.0

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    Nothing special, but I'm looking forward to see what kind of vape this will give. A couple of groove fused Claptons w/SS staging.

    [​IMG]
     
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    On the Recoil Rebel. Now to wick and vape it. :D

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  24. CrazyChef v2.0

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    Verdict: They're okay, I guess. But at 0.08Ω for a dual coil installation, they're too limited. And the vape isn't really all that much better than a regular set of fused Claptons.
     
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  25. Twisted Vaping

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    something different today and promised myself to take my time for this build.
    Its a SINGLE Coil SSFC Variant, made of three cores 28GA, 2x4 ply 0.3 ribbon staggered and skip fused with 38GA all N80. 5 Wrap @ 3mm. Should ohm @ around 0.14, so a Dual could be installed on a Hohmwrecker or similar. Pretty proud it came out pretty flawless and Looks simple beautiful.
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  26. askalade

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    Some alien stags from @raymo2u. Things are insane.
    Used to make coils myself but once you try out some of the best, the difference in quality becomes oh so present. Its like comparing a homemade dish to a 3 star restaurant's dish. Very smooth flavorfull coils. To anyone wondering if they should start building. If you like it and see it as a hobby, go ahead. But do know that i am pretty handy and even after using like a 100 dollars of wire i'm still far from able to replicate something like this. Insane how everything is so perfect. Every fuse. I always fuck up at some point and get pissed xD So my fuses dont look nearly as good. Besides, for some1 who lives in the Netherlands its pretty fucked up ordering from the US. If i order high quality wire i usually pay like 20 dollars extra for shipping and since it are official stores they will put the real value on the package. And everything above 21eu i will need to pay an additional 12.50eu fee + 21% taxes. And if its above 150eu you get to pay a whole lot of "custom rights" too. Luckily raymo helped me out and put 20eu as a value on the package xP. So strange but buying coils from him is cheaper for me than buying the wire :'D
     
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    Also, i love how i ordered like 2 pairs and a single coil and i got like 9 coils instead
     
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    Been thinking about getting one lately. But im kinda thinkering because of that delrin o ring thingy on the deck. I see you don't have it on there. Im worried that
    1. It might heat up to a point of releasing toxic shit
    Or
    2. It limits the space i have for my coils so im not able to put big coils in them

    What are your experiences with it? And can you vape without that ring? Or does it leak when you remove it?

    I really like the design and hear alot of ppl that like the indented airflow but don't know if its worth getting
     
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  30. CrazyChef v2.0

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    I like it a lot. As you said, I don't have the Ultem (not Delrin) ring in it. It solves a problem that I don't have, so I see no reason to use it. But, the point of using the Ultem polymer in numerous atomizers is it's inherent heat resistance. Obviously you don't want your coils touching it directly, but in close proximity it shouldn't pose a problem. As far as space, it's big enough for any coils that I'll ever need to use. The post holes are 2.5mm in diameter.
     
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    XD i keep switching delrin and ultem up. My bad.

    But yeah i've had some past experiences with older attys (2015) that had "heat resistent coating" or heat resistent parts that weren't so heat resistant after all and melted on me. So i'm kinda anxious when it comes to those things. I'd rather not have anything close to my coils that isnt made out of ss or gold. Good to know that the atty works great without it.

    I really like clamp style decks since it fits flat coils more easily but its not a pre.
    The only thing that i look for is big post holes when buying those kind of attys. Since small post holes tend to twist your leads when using flat coils.
    That doesnt seem to be a problem with the RR.

    Also i love how they made the deck bigger. The thing i love about my goon is that its a 24mm atty with like a 23mm deck or something.

    The original rebel used to be 24 with a 16mm deck if i recall. This one is 25mm with a 23mm ish deck(correct me if im wrong) so you get alot more room te build on and smoother airflow imo.

    Will def add this one to my collection
     
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    Holy F**k.... I havnt been here in a minute, and im to the point where I can crank out alien coils like nothing.... Tried my hand a building a staple stagger today and after hours of cursing i finally got two usable staggered frames... stacked my ribbon and made sliders.... two minutes later I had to hit my memory foam mattress with a baseball bat a few times and curse some more... And I thought I had mastered the hard stuff. :gaah::headbang:

    Probably should have started lower than 28/36 lol
     
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  33. Twisted Vaping

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    Thanks really much appreciate this bro :bliss:

    @mikekscholz
    I can really recommend to make the spaced clapton frames as loose als possible.
    All my staggered parts have loose wrap and at least 2 Inches at the swivel end without wrap.
    So when you fuse it, the wrap can expand to the end. I also use a keyring instead of ribbon sliders.
    Without this technique i wouldnt be able in 1000 years to do the build i Posted before.
     
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    My local vape shop put a custom build on my new Kennedy Mech combo and I'm loving it! Picture isn't the best and I'm not sure what to call this build but it works fantastically.

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    Been a while guys, but I'm back on the building scene. My latest FCs came out to .11Ω.

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    Some twisted 28 on the boxer. Time for a bit of change.[​IMG]

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    Tried my first vertical build. Super simple but I can't get the wicking right. I rewicked this three times or so. CB2 inner, JOC on the outside.

    I'll vape as is until I get a dry hit to see how it goes. [​IMG]

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    Looks like a wick full of custardy/ry4 kinda juice. Looks good. Love my yellow/brownish cotton
     
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    More Stuffs

    Dead Rabbit loaded with Mini Staggs:

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    G24 Seminole with Staggs:

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    CoilArt DPRO with All Ribbon SSFCs:

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    Stentorian RAM Topped with YFTK Reload RDA V1.2 with Mini Staggs:

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    Wireshot of a Double Fused Staggerton Variant:

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    30mm Mask RDA loaded with Quad Alien Staggs, still unfinished posting:

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    It's fried don't and strawberry jam. Dough boy by abstrakt vapery.

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    My second build. Running dual parallel at .16 ohms.


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    Some of my parallels. 26 FC/26 naked Ka 5-wrap @ 0.24Ω. Beautiful flavor @ 112 watts using homemade tangerine/apple juice.

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  45. mendozaram

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    Amazing coils i've been watching here. Well, i'm a newbie, this are my first attemp doing Claptons. 26g/32g. 0.5ohm.[​IMG]
     
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    Got my mom to give up the TFV8 for 25 bucks. I've always wanted to try a FC build on it, so here we go.

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    30mm Death Trap RDA, Baited with a Staggerton Variant

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    ELFY RTA with a Standing Inception:

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    Alien Staggerton Double Stagger/Single Fuse Variant (Difficulty 12/10)

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    How do you like that ELFY? It looks promising, and I think I might get one.
     
  50. Carambrda

    Carambrda Silver Contributor

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    I think you meant 24mm. I got both the 30mm and the 24mm in black too... both are awesome.
     

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