What percentage of flavoring should I use for the best results?I have mixed 2 bottles so far and put 20% flavoring in them but they are still steeping.I read where some people are using 26% flavoring. One bottle is strawberries and cream and the other is ripe strawberry.I don't use nicotine I just vape for the flavor.Also do you have to steep the juice as long when you are not using nicotine?
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Hi mcc1961, welcome to VU.
Everyone can be a bit different in how much flavoring they use. For me, that would be way too much flavor. You could try splitting that up, leave one bottle as is, then in the other, add more VG, PG, or a combination of. Let them steep the same length of time, and see which works better for you.
Some fruits don't need any steeping at all, some have a bit of an alcohol taste, until they've sat a bit. Creams, tobaccos and some bakery type flavors seem to to a tad better with sitting a little bit.
Everyone can be a bit different in how much flavoring they use. For me, that would be way too much flavor. You could try splitting that up, leave one bottle as is, then in the other, add more VG, PG, or a combination of. Let them steep the same length of time, and see which works better for you.
Some fruits don't need any steeping at all, some have a bit of an alcohol taste, until they've sat a bit. Creams, tobaccos and some bakery type flavors seem to to a tad better with sitting a little bit.
Welcome. I find that most single fruit flavors can be mixed and vaped after shaking well. For a mix with any type of cream I let it steep for 2 to 3 weeks before vaping. 20% may be a little strong. I mix my fruit only flavors at 10%. The main thing with mixing is just to try different strengths to find what you like the best.
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I generaly do 10 to 16%. I always steep. Especialy with recipes that have a bunch of flavorings. Steeping gives it time to let the flavors fuse together and not have stronger flavors totaly over power the light ones like whipped cream. I steep on average a minimum of two weeks.
Just how i do things and every1 is different.
Just play with it till you are comfortable and find what works 4u.
Just how i do things and every1 is different.
Just play with it till you are comfortable and find what works 4u.
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I've had some that were worse than others, yes. Unless you know the brand, it'd be hard to say, but ebay wouldn't be my first choice. PG and VG are very reasonably priced. I buy from Essential Depot, or that same brand at Amazon, sometimes.
Is it cloudy at all?
I was saying taiste your vg pg mix and c if the problem is there from the start or is coming from the flavs
I would suggest doing single flavor tests of each of your flavors to get an idea of how that flavor behaves. So for example, I will make 5ml tests of every one of my individual flavor concentrates at 3 different percentages. I usually go as follows
VTA, WF, RF, FA, INW, HS - (1,2,3% - sometimes I start as low as 0.5% and go as high as 5%, I use ELR to get an idea of what other people are doing and go from there)
OOO, CAP, TFA, PUR, FW - (2,4,6% - again I check ELR to get an idea, some flavors are really strong in these lines and I like to get an idea before I make a 6% tester of TFA Brown Sugar Extra and blast my tastebuds away)
FLV - I start at 0.5% and taste it, if it is strong I do 0.5, 0.75, 1, if it is a weaker one I do 0.5, 1, 1.5%. I do this with some RF, WF flavors as well.
I take notes on all of this stuff. Knowing my concentrates makes me a better mixer. Instead of blindly hoping something will come out good, I already know what my concentrates taste like on their own at certain percentages, it gives me a much better idea of how they will behave in a mix. I suggest if you plan on really getting into this and creating your own recipes, you start doing this, it will change the whole thing for you.
VTA, WF, RF, FA, INW, HS - (1,2,3% - sometimes I start as low as 0.5% and go as high as 5%, I use ELR to get an idea of what other people are doing and go from there)
OOO, CAP, TFA, PUR, FW - (2,4,6% - again I check ELR to get an idea, some flavors are really strong in these lines and I like to get an idea before I make a 6% tester of TFA Brown Sugar Extra and blast my tastebuds away)
FLV - I start at 0.5% and taste it, if it is strong I do 0.5, 0.75, 1, if it is a weaker one I do 0.5, 1, 1.5%. I do this with some RF, WF flavors as well.
I take notes on all of this stuff. Knowing my concentrates makes me a better mixer. Instead of blindly hoping something will come out good, I already know what my concentrates taste like on their own at certain percentages, it gives me a much better idea of how they will behave in a mix. I suggest if you plan on really getting into this and creating your own recipes, you start doing this, it will change the whole thing for you.
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Everyone here is right. It’s all about what you like. There’s “standards” but you might like it higher or lower.
Literally everything flavor related is relative. It’s all about you and your preferences.
There are a lot of really good mixers here. Keep asking questions. You’ll always get an answer!
Literally everything flavor related is relative. It’s all about you and your preferences.
There are a lot of really good mixers here. Keep asking questions. You’ll always get an answer!
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I think you may have overflavored. 20% of any single flavor may be too much, IMO. If you like it, great!
What flavor company are your flavors from?
Percentage of flavoring.. ok first..
list your recipe... what are you doing? what brands are you using?
start your flavors as solos, really low and work up..
then you can put recipes together based on if your tongue will like it at what percent you find you like.
I do have some juices with only .7% total flavoring...
I have some around 5%...
its what all is in it and how it is used.. for every application, there is a different process
Imo 20% of 1 flavor is an overkill
Imo a lil ripe strawberry generally goes a long way.
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I think it also depends on the equipment you are using. If you are creating juice to use in an RDA rather than a subohm tank you will notice a big difference in flavor. RTA and RDA are pretty much the same for me depending on the actual atomizer (obviously there are crappy rta and rda), but subohm tanks I find vary greatly in flavor and I really don't use any anymore except for my original fireluke, though I do get a tin taste from the coils sometimes.
There is a person on this forum who uses the strawberry over 25% with over 85% PG. Some are far from the norm...............
Yes or I just saw Shisha Strawberry at 13% which is outlandish.
Assuming that everyone mixes to taste for their gear and preferences. All we can do if asked what percentage we use ourselves. It's a crap shoot for anyone that doesn't do the homework researching the flavors and mixing the testers.
Agreed. If you want to become a better mixer, then this is absolutely correct. If you want to go blindly into the world of mixing and hope you eventually make something good, then I guess this whole conversation is irrelevant.
Outlandish to you. I mix for my cousin and high flavor suits her. The few recipes we both enjoy have very different flavor percentages.
Now that I am familiar with the brands and have found reviewers whose tastes are similar to my own it's much less tedious. I now only do sft for flavors I will probably like as a single.
Agreed. I speak only for myself, which is why I didn't add that caveat. I find it outlandish. I know taste is subjective, but I feel as though some flavors can't be taken to a certain point without inducing a strange flavor. I also feel like Shisha Strawberry is one of them.
I tried the strawberry and cream juice after over 7 days of steeping and you can really taste the cream more than the strawberry.I made this bottle with 2ml of strawberry and 1ml of cream in a 15ml bottle.I think the flavor is a little strong but it smells great when you vape it.I think the next batch I will mix it at 10% flavoring.
If the cream is over taking the strawberry, try 2.5ml of strawberry and .5ml of cream or just up the strawberry to bring it up front.
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I have a few recipes with flavors at or a little above 20%, but the longer I mix, and the better my equipment gets, the more I find that I need to lower those percentages. I had some trouble tasting citrus flavors, and found that I really had to bump those up quite a bit for a while so I could taste them. They're coming back down now, though.
When you start mixing your own, you very nearly have to figure that, in the beginning, if you make anything worth vaping, it's a bonus. Trial and error is the only way to find what you like, with the particular chemicals, methods, and gear you are using.
When you start mixing your own, you very nearly have to figure that, in the beginning, if you make anything worth vaping, it's a bonus. Trial and error is the only way to find what you like, with the particular chemicals, methods, and gear you are using.
I tried some of 1 of my juices and it is pretty good.I fixed one with red apple and apple pie flavoring .This is the one i tried and i put them in an ultrasonic cleaner and heater for about 7 hours at 35c to speed steep them.The apple pie one tastes just like an apple pie.The other one is Concord grape and red apple flavoring.Haven't tried it yet.
Heat and nicotine do not like each other.. it will destroy your nic... js..
I concur with what you're saying.
My take- It's not like you can turn flavors up like a dial. They have optimal ranges. Doubling the percentage doesn't get you double the flavor. It just kind of gets distorted with off notes, weirdness, or mutes itself.
Looking at the top rated recipes on e-liquid-recipes.com high teens are where most of the recipes end up as far as total flavor percentage. I like a more pronounced flavor, so I limit my recipes to 20%. The critical thing for me is to stay within the suggested percentage range for each flavor. If a flavor is to be a main feature I'll probably use it at it's max recommended.
Do any of you go past the recommended percentage?
Do any of you go past the recommended percentage?
Are you talking about what's found at ELR?
No, I buy flavorings from Heartland Vapes, although the flavors a from CAP, TFA, FW ect, they're in heartland Vapes bottles and each has a the range recommended percentages, I figured all flavorings had this information.
