People are ditching cigarettes for vaping for reasons other than their health

Discussion in 'The Good' started by 5150sick, Jul 10, 2019.

  1. 5150sick

    5150sick Under Ground Hustler Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Platinum Contributor Member For 4 Years ECF Refugee Mod Team Leader

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2014
    Messages:
    9,612
  2. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993
    Good article.

    There’s some new shit going down related to the Deeming with child proof juice bottles. People here should be aware, since it affects everyone. Think you could post something about it? Thanks!


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
    The Cromwell likes this.
  3. SteveS45

    SteveS45 Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2016
    Messages:
    18,139
    Not new since I have not seen bottles that do not have them in years.
     
  4. obijuan77

    obijuan77 Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    May 3, 2018
    Messages:
    693
    Letitia9, The Cromwell and Rhianne like this.
  5. SteveS45

    SteveS45 Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2016
    Messages:
    18,139
    Rhianne likes this.
  6. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993
    I heard that there was a stricter ban thing happening now. But it came from someone at ECF.
    Yeah, a lot of bottles have that now, but I think ALL juice will be required to have them.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
  7. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    Yep, really depressing. I hate to think of all these small companies possibly going out of business from this.

    I wish someone in charge had their orifice reduced!


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
    obijuan77 likes this.
  8. obijuan77

    obijuan77 Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    May 3, 2018
    Messages:
    693
    Yea, fucking professionals over there lmao
     
    Rhianne and SteveS45 like this.
  9. SteveS45

    SteveS45 Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2016
    Messages:
    18,139
    Since I don't Tweet and I leave it for the Birds any ruling or regulation issued Via Tweet doesn't apply to me.
     
    obijuan77 likes this.
  10. ajvapes

    ajvapes Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2016
    Messages:
    633
    That is why dropper bottles are disappearing...and if you have tried to fill a tank lately with a new bottle it takes a lot of sqeezing.
     
    Rhianne likes this.
  11. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    I know. They could make them out of softer plastic! It comes out of the bottle like one drop at a time. Hope it’s not the wave of the future.
     
    ajvapes likes this.
  12. The Cromwell

    The Cromwell The Frugal Vapist VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    29,498
    Wife pressured me into switching to vaping over health concerns for me.
    I soon realized I could save a bunch of money over smoking and was sold.
    Well that and feeling better and not stinking or having a stinky car :)
    I vape around 120 ml/week and spend less than $20/month on vaping.
     
    Dimples, ajvapes and Rhianne like this.
  13. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    And you mentioned that you were vapocalypse ready, too. That’s cool. I’m hoping to spend that little on gear and juice too, eventually. It’s great to be prepared for whatever goes down. :)
     
    The Cromwell, Rossum and Creature0069 like this.
  14. The Cromwell

    The Cromwell The Frugal Vapist VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    29,498
    Watch sales and clearance for vape stuff you like to use.
     
    JuicyLucy and Rhianne like this.
  15. Creature0069

    Creature0069 Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    May 25, 2019
    Messages:
    379
    Until last month, I hadn't made ANY vape related purchases in over 2 years (maybe 3) with the exception of flavorings and the random bottle of juice. I'm down to my last liter of nic now though so...
     
    Rhianne likes this.
  16. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    That is cool. I really want to get in the groove with not spending so much (and being self sufficient with juice and coils.) I try to get the best prices but like on the 4th with the sales, I bought stuff I didn’t need. But it’s only @4 months that I’m vaping now, so it’s still new to me. Even though we vaped in 2013 for a while but totally different now with sub ohm and tons of gear.

    If this was a disaster movie, unprepared ppl would be coming to you (and the other building/mixing ppl) for juice and coils. Just without zombies! ;)
     
  17. The Cromwell

    The Cromwell The Frugal Vapist VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    29,498
    Ahh vape zombies.
    As with any prepper I am ready.
    zombie ammo.jpg
     
    JuicyLucy and Rhianne like this.
  18. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    That’s great!! Lol


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
    The Cromwell likes this.
  19. JuicyLucy

    JuicyLucy My name is Lucy and I am a squonkaholic Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years VU Challenge Team ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    1
    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2016
    Messages:
    23,236
    When the Deeming Regs were published, I always assumed that if the FDA didn't kill vaping, taxation would
     
  20. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993
    So we’re screwed either way! Sigh. It’s making me realize I’ve got to learn to DIY and build. I’ve got about four 120mls unflavored but they’re not nic base, they’re juice. I figured I could learn basic DIY with some one shots but now I’ve gotta hold off buying for a while.

    Feeling pressured like this sucks.
     
  21. Rossum

    Rossum Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2016
    Messages:
    3,254
    Taxation would only injure, not kill it. People still buy cigarettes despite the outrageous taxes on them.

    Personally, I decided I'd never pay a dime in "sin tax" for vape stuff, and I haven't, despite the 40% wholesale tax in my home state of PA. I finished my preps a few months before that tax went into effect, so I haven't needed anything since then. The few things I've wanted, I've ordered while spending time down in FL.
     
    JuicyLucy, The Cromwell and Rhianne like this.
  22. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    This is why you get called a veteran! Hey, it’s early here.

    Seriously, I hope it’s only taxes, at the worst. We had smokes almost double in price here with federal and city tax. Bans would be hard to live with.
     
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2019
  23. The Cromwell

    The Cromwell The Frugal Vapist VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    29,498
    Taxes may be the only thing that partially saves vaping.
    I mean they will not ban cigs becuase of the taxes...
     
    JuicyLucy and Rhianne like this.
  24. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993
    True, I never thought of that. So there’s always an upside, thank God. I just wonder how much vape gear prices will go up.
     
  25. The Cromwell

    The Cromwell The Frugal Vapist VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    29,498
    My prediction for vaping a few years down the road is.
    Highly taxed sealed pod type systems with built in batteries and such to be only approved devices.
     
    Rhianne likes this.
  26. The Cromwell

    The Cromwell The Frugal Vapist VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    29,498
    Actually look for them to go down with going out of business sales in the future if things continue as forecast.
    As to prices on any approved devices?
    I think they will fairly closely track the cost of smoking considering price + taxes.
     
    Rhianne likes this.
  27. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    Gah, I hate pods. I know everyone loves them and all, but I don’t need stealth. Govt approved pods, yet.
     
    MarkS likes this.
  28. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    It’s almost $14 a pack here. It would be pretty damn expensive especially for juice. Cripes.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
  29. PoppaVic

    PoppaVic Gold Contributor Member For 4 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2014
    Messages:
    3,224
    Invest in a few RTA/RDA, mix your juice; own a mech or 2; check out PWM..

    Government can only screw with the HW - which you can build.
     
    Rossum likes this.
  30. The Cromwell

    The Cromwell The Frugal Vapist VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    29,498
    Juice is always expensive in the sealed pods.
    Bottled juice may well be banned,
    '
     
    Rhianne and JuicyLucy like this.
  31. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993
    Vic, I only started vaping again a few months ago. It may take me a while to build and mix.
    What’s up with mechs blowing up? Kinda making me avoid them, although they look great. Mechs are good for post-Deeming since it’s just a tube with a battery and a button?
     
    Creature0069 likes this.
  32. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    This is so damn depressing. Ppl will have to modify pods. Yikes.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
  33. Creature0069

    Creature0069 Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    May 25, 2019
    Messages:
    379
    Mech issues are user error. Usually using hybrid's where the battery contacts the positive connector of the atty coupled with not so good batteries and dumb practices.
     
    Rhianne likes this.
  34. DogMan

    DogMan VU Donator Platinum Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    5,607
    People probably get bored with me posting Aussie prices, but:

    [​IMG]

    I think they are increasing tax by 12.5% again in September.
     
  35. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    Crikey. For how many cigarettes?

    I love the quit smoking message to go with it. We’re thinking of you folks, that’s why they’re so expensive!!
     
  36. DogMan

    DogMan VU Donator Platinum Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    5,607
    That's a 25 pack

    Our dollar is about 70 US cents though
     
  37. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    So two positive things coming together makes it blow up?
     
  38. DogMan

    DogMan VU Donator Platinum Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    5,607
    No

    A positive and negative, with no resistance or too low resistance between them

    Torn battery wraps can cause short circuits too
     
    Creature0069 likes this.
  39. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    So the AUD is less than the £. Wow, that’s really a bitch, as they say. They give you more ciggies per pack though. We get twenty.

    I hope employment is steady in Oz now.
     
    DogMan likes this.
  40. DogMan

    DogMan VU Donator Platinum Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    5,607
    We can buy packs of 50. But I figured the 25s would show international better.
     
  41. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    I quit while I’m ahead with this...Science was my worst subject, along with math. No mechs for me in the near future. I like life and vaping too much.
     
    DogMan likes this.
  42. Creature0069

    Creature0069 Bronze Contributor

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    May 25, 2019
    Messages:
    379
    As DogMan stated. Or using an atty not designed for use with a hybrid mech where the positive of the battery contacts pos+neg shorts it out. Battery gets hot fast and vents. If the mech doesn't have proper venting, pressure builds and boom!
     
    DogMan and Rhianne like this.
  43. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    But $35 is over the top expensive. No wonder you’re vaping. It’s like a dollar a cigarette, i can’t believe it.
     
    DogMan likes this.
  44. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    My guy Legion Vapes mentioned that. He was P.O.’d about vape shops selling advanced gear to newbs.
     
  45. DogMan

    DogMan VU Donator Platinum Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    5,607
    i smoked chop chop which obviously avoids tax

    in 2013, border force had a few big successes intercepting illegal tobacco, and my supply dried up (i used to buy it from a store with a front as being a school uniform shop)

    i tried commercial rollies, but i couldn't get used to the change, so figured i'd try vaping to at least cut down

    BUT, when calculating savings, i use the $1 per cig figure
     
    Rhianne likes this.
  46. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    If you say girls school uniforms, it’s quite a mind picture! Lol
    It’s like prohibition in Chicago there. Wow.

    At least I hope you’re not scoring vape gear from some guy in a dark train station or something.

    So vaping is a bargain in AU. Too f-ing much. Quit now. $35 a pack. It’s like the flick They Live!
     
    DogMan likes this.
  47. Rossum

    Rossum Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2016
    Messages:
    3,254
    And because there would be 30 million very angry people who would create a black market the likes of which hasn't been seen since the Volstead Act was the law of the land.
     
    Rhianne likes this.
  48. The Cromwell

    The Cromwell The Frugal Vapist VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    29,498
    I do not think that vaping has as strong of an attraction to humans as does alcohol.
    There would be some black market but nothing like with alcohol during prohibition.

    One reason being not the massive profits as with bootlegging and illegal drugs.
    That and the fact that vaping is not really addictive like those other things.
     
    Rhianne likes this.
  49. Rossum

    Rossum Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2016
    Messages:
    3,254
    The context above was cigarettes, i.e. smokeable tobacco, not vaping. To see about the black market for that all you have to do is check really high tax jurisdictions like NYC or Australia. Cigarettes remain legal there, but already half or more of the market is "informal".

    As for vaping, I'm not sure how I would react if I were cut off from it. I don't intend to find out either. ;)
     
    The Cromwell, Rhianne and DogMan like this.
  50. Rhianne

    Rhianne Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    993

    Sorry, just woke up and reading news. ️ needed now! I was paying the cigarette tax in NYC. F*cking crazy.

    I assume anti smoking goes along with anti vaping, my bad.

    You ain’t kidding about being cut off from vaping. I cut out every other thing I liked to do.
     

Share This Page

Close This Message