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  1. Dimitar

    Dimitar Member For 2 Years Member For 1 Year

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    Hi,

    A week ago after vaping for more than 5 years, i rediscovered it, using Clapton wire for the first time. The problem in front of me was that i am not dexterous at all, so for me building clapton wire was something impossible.

    I watched some videos and found out the " Avidartisan Daedalus Pro Clapton Wire DIY Tool V2 Coil Jig Kit". A minute ago i ordered one from Fasttech, so i was wondering what are your options on this kit?

    Thanks.
     
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  2. tomczak215ii

    tomczak215ii Bronze Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    Fused Claptons, regular claptons, spaces Claptons, twisted wire, I’ve tried to do staggered fused claptons but can never get the final wrap with the tool.


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  3. Dimitar

    Dimitar Member For 2 Years Member For 1 Year

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    Thanks for the Answer. Is it as easy as it seems on the videos. I would only use it for regular claptons and fused ones.
     
  4. tomczak215ii

    tomczak215ii Bronze Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    Super easy to do. The drill is a little slow at its fastest speed but gives you time to do other things while it works. Once you set it up and start the Clapton you can walk away. Best practice is to use the swivel clamp so the jig doesn’t slide off the work space or desk. But it is very very easy to make perfect Claptons each time. I build two feet at a time to store for later so I don’t have to break out the setup every time I need coils.


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  5. mach1ne

    mach1ne Gold Contributor Member For 4 Years

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    there is a bit of a learning curve to get it set up, and its still possible that it will make mistakes. aside from that, it will make you fused claptons with very little effort. you can tinker with coil composition and learn some things that will allow you fine tune your vape experience to your own tastes/atomizer/power levels etc. i tried mine up to 40 gauge wrap and it worked fine. im sure with some luck it could go higher. 40 is hard to work with, and its kind of considered a milestone for builders over in 'post your builds' to use it cleanly...so i was pretty impressed the daedalus could go that low.

    the kit also comes with a clamp and swivels that you can set up and try to build manually, if you get bitten by the building bug and want to try aliens or something the daedalus cant handle. as @tomczak215ii said, the drill isnt the fastest, or the quietest...but its small and uses 18650s (and has pretty great runtime on a pair of them imo). i think its a good way to start out with building.
     
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  6. Dimitar

    Dimitar Member For 2 Years Member For 1 Year

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    I can not find videos for making simple clapton wire with the jig. All i find are videos for fussed, staple etc claptons, but nothing for the main reason for my purchase - regular clapton wire. Can you help?

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  7. tomczak215ii

    tomczak215ii Bronze Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    I’ll see if I can find a video, but honestly it’s identical to fused Claptons except you only use one core wire. Do you have the v1 or v2 jig? Either one use the brass piece with the smaller hole if you have the v2.


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  8. bobnat

    bobnat VU Donator Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    I have the v1 and I've never been able to do 3 cores and keep them lined up. How do you do it?
     
  9. tomczak215ii

    tomczak215ii Bronze Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    For three core ones the v2 works a lot better than the v1. I have never been able to do the three cores with the v1 without them bunching up. I know if you can get the magic jigs to fit three cores it can sometimes work but I just picked up the new version to do them.


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    bobnat VU Donator Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    Ok, thanks. I had found a company that sells the brass piece the wire threads through so maybe they'll sell those jigs as well. Now I've got to find it again.
     
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    bobnat VU Donator Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    bobnat VU Donator Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    If I didn't have one, I'd buy it, but I'll be damned if I buy another. I bought pre-wound clapton wire from AVS and it floats my boat just fine. Cheers.
     
  14. wheelie

    wheelie VU Donator Bronze Contributor Member For 4 Years

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    Love my Avidartisan Daedalus. Paid $45.for mine back when they first came to market. Mainly I only use the drill. Straiten every wire since I got it. I bought a couple extra drill chucks for it as I wreaked the first one when I stuck the wire to far in and it got stuck around the spring. It makes claptons well but I have so many spools of prebuilt wire that I want to use up. When more time allows I will sit down and build again. I do re-build coils for the wife for her 3 - melo 2 tanks. Just not enough hours in a day to allow me to build much. All my spare time gets wasted shooting pellet guns in my house. :)
     
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  15. Zohmbiebuilds

    Zohmbiebuilds Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    I could go out on a limb I've never used one I personally dont even use swivels, but it appears you should straighten your wire out first, attach to drill Chuck, put the wire through the jigs hole, and you're wrapping wire up top. Feed it through and connect your wrap wire to the leg you have to create when your bended and inserted core wire into the Chuck.

    I always leave core wire bends decently long, and I imagine the machine needs a little space to sort of catch.

    Fused and regular Claptons are pretty similar. Watch a video of the fused Claptons, and just follow that down to where it differs.

    I'd honestly never use a jig to make Claptons because it's so easy to do it without.

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    Zohmbiebuilds Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    Oops didn't read that you already got one.

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  17. Dimitar

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    Vape mail tomorrow, i will report asap (if i dont get my new car tomorrow as well, if i get it it will wait for a while) :)

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  18. Weedhunter

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    The daedalus is great for Clapton, Fused Clapton and spaced Clapton. You have to do nothing, if the start is done and the underground is smooth. I make my clptons with a lenght about 70cm with no hands on it.
    Staggered Fused are not as easy. I only use the Daedalus drill and the Spinner of the back. I put a spring in, that there is always tension on the wire. Then slowly spool up the wire. Short wire is easier.
     
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  19. OneBadWolf

    OneBadWolf VU Donator Gold Contributor Member For 4 Years ECF Refugee

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    An old thread, but I just got the v2 kit to add to my V1. I appreciate that they sell the parts separately. I made my own unit previously to buying a Daedalus, The Claptonator,
    but the Daedalus works better. Even more so unsupervised.

    I once produced 8 feet in a single length, only adjusting the speed as the batts wore down, and having added an extra spring to the reel, it wrapped it tight.

    I've recently begun experimenting with carbon fibre coils. I've attached a different , smaller and more precise chuck to the Daedalus. We'll see how it goes
     
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