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So what? If you use 100mg, you won't need to add so much to your recipes -- ejuice calculators allow you to specify how strong it is in mg. And concentrated nicotine is MUCH easier to store, and a hell of a lot cheaper if you buy a lot. If you buy weak nicotine like that, you're paying TOP dollar for someone else's PG/VG, and that's just stupid.
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Can make anything with 100mg you can make with 24.
I also fail to see the reason not to get stronger nicotine.
But I get mine at nicotine river. Should have whatever you decide to get.
Just curious what your final juice nic strength is?
Idk I just always use 24mg , I miss read first post I read 100 mil for some reason , so with 100 mg of nic Ill just be using less in my recipe ? so If I'm doing 100 vg base, some times 30/70 I'll be using more VG in my recipes to account for it ? i use 3mg str
Yeah like 1/4 the nicotine solution by volume or weight. Yes, will use more pg or vg.
I personally use 60mg. Also absolutely no reason I don't use 100mg. The 60 is just what I started with (and subsequently bought a several year supply of). I shoulda just went with the 100 mg.
I personally use 60mg. Also absolutely no reason I don't use 100mg. The 60 is just what I started with (and subsequently bought a several year supply of). I shoulda just went with the 100 mg.
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Yep. But, if you plan to store any of the nic in a freezer, buying it in a PG base might be better; at freezer temp, VG is more of a gel than a liquid.
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Yeah but I drip , I like it thick and same with previous post what bktoad said, I started with 24mg and just been going with it, and I like the thickness of the juice if I go with 100 mg I'm just thinking , but my juice will be really thick since Ill be adding even more VG. I buy VG base nic
American weigh digital scale 100g x .01g is what i have.
Might need more than 100g if you are making large batches. But i make 120 ml bottles with mine. Just weigh nic, flavors, and pg then fill bottle to the top with vg.
I use no needles. Squeeze bottles with nic, pg, vg. Dropper bottles of flavors. Just drip right into juice bottles. Putting down the syringe is life changing.
Might need more than 100g if you are making large batches. But i make 120 ml bottles with mine. Just weigh nic, flavors, and pg then fill bottle to the top with vg.
I use no needles. Squeeze bottles with nic, pg, vg. Dropper bottles of flavors. Just drip right into juice bottles. Putting down the syringe is life changing.
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Since I've started mixing larger amounts, 60ml or more, I'm using my graduated cylinder a lot more, for the PG/VG and nic -- it's much easier to pour VG than draw it up in a syringe. I still use syringes for the flavors, but first I mix the PG, nic, and VG that the recipe calls for, pour it from the cylinder into the bottle, then add the flavors. Even though I don't use much VG, trying to measure ANY VG with a syringe is a huge pain; pouring is much easier!
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Can get online or at a restaurant supply place or like sally beauty shop.
Ones i use are about 8oz bottles.
But how do you measure the amounts you need?
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By weight, of course.
Pour (liquid) from bottle to juice bottle on scale until it reaches desired weight.
Bottles are for pg/vg/nic.
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I dunno, I can't fathom measuring liquids by weight. I don't buy 10 lbs of milk, I buy a gallon.
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I can't fathom going back to syringes. Absolute PITA. Way more time to measure and way more cleanup time. Have saved money with the scale too by not replacing syringes. Much more accurate.
Look at a baking cookbook. A professional one. Exact Formulations matter a lot in baking. Everything is by weight. Because it is more accurate. Atmospheric conditions can change volume. But not weight. Plus, those little air bubbles count as volume. Not weight.
Can legit make a bottle of juice in under a minute. From setup to cleanup. Not just "mixing"
Look at a baking cookbook. A professional one. Exact Formulations matter a lot in baking. Everything is by weight. Because it is more accurate. Atmospheric conditions can change volume. But not weight. Plus, those little air bubbles count as volume. Not weight.
Can legit make a bottle of juice in under a minute. From setup to cleanup. Not just "mixing"
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yeah I been good with my syringes and not having to replace them. If you use clear coat nail polish on the syringes the numbers and lines don't wear off, just a tip, but yeah I'm looking into the scale and getting squeezable bottles I'm having a hard time finding one that would work good most that I find are clear bottles and I read it should be dark container to store nic in , I found ketchup bottles that are red, but then they don't have caps or lids
Take a cup of vg. Pour it into another vessel. Let the "empty" cup sit on the counter for 10 minutes. And then tell me if you poured an entire cup into the other vessel.
This is liquids by volume for you.
You are only storing, in the clear bottle, what you will use in a short time. Month or 2. Will not hurt. Have the rest of your nicotine properly sealed, frozen, and dark.
I leave my short-term use clear bottle at room temp. For short term. Can freeze if you like. Light and air will not affect it terribly in a few weeks. Especially the occasional fridge light.
Oh okay, well that works then , thanks everyone, but yeah I'm still gonna stick with 24 mg nic I don't mind. I like the thickness I have with 24mg and the ratio of VG I don't want it much thicker. Going to look into getting a scale the only problem now is I use e juice me up calc and it doesnt seem to have a way to tell me how much weight of each flavor, vg, nic I need for a recipe
The vg nicotine varies a bit in weight based on nicotine strength. Google it to find the more precise weight for the nicotine you choose.
Once you write up a formula for your juices based on pg/vg and nic strength for the following, you are good to go:
Total nic weight
Total vg weight, minus nic weight (not really necessary as described later)
Total pg weight
What I do is weigh my nicotine, weight my flavorings. Subtract flavor weight from total pg weight and add the difference in pg, then top it off with vg. Super easy.
Also made a table of weights for pg/flavors from .1ml to 3 ml that makes it super easy.
Once you write up a formula for your juices based on pg/vg and nic strength for the following, you are good to go:
Total nic weight
Total vg weight, minus nic weight (not really necessary as described later)
Total pg weight
What I do is weigh my nicotine, weight my flavorings. Subtract flavor weight from total pg weight and add the difference in pg, then top it off with vg. Super easy.
Also made a table of weights for pg/flavors from .1ml to 3 ml that makes it super easy.
I normally mix 20/80 and don't even measure my VG half the time, I just measure out everything else and top off the bottle with VG. BTW, I do plan on getting a scale real soon. I'm really getting tired of fooling around with syringes and droppers.
Just cruisin' through here, way past the response about funnels, but definitely get those squeeze bottles. Pouring VG through a funnel is a REAL PITA and creates an absolute mess. I tried using a funnel to pour VG into........ a squeezy bottle, LOL. Won't do that again.
I support mixing by weight. Too simple, and you won't go back once you try it.
I support mixing by weight. Too simple, and you won't go back once you try it.
Your juice will be the same thickness regardless. if you use 24 mg nicotine you have to use more and that more is vg so theres no difference in thickness if you use more vg alone or more vg with nic. Hope this helps.
yeah I dk why I mentioned funnel either thinking about it now.. other then transferring my VG into a squeezable nozzle bottle, but yeah I have a small one and yeah it's a pain to get VG into any bottle with a funnel I ordered my scale last night and my GF has old hair dye bottles with nozzle on them that I washed out they're 8 oz and I got 4 now, but I may older a few new ones just because the hair dye was in them lol
yeah good point, i did calculations and yeahs it's a ton less I would have to use... welp I already ordered the 24mg last night.. so next time do you guys recommend I use 100 mg or 60mg?
I like 100mg. Nothing wrong with 60, but it's just more economical in my mind.
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With 100 mg nic you will be putting 3% in your mixes to get your desired 3 mg final. With the 24 mg nic 12.5% will be added to your mix to get 3 mg. What this means is your nic supply will disappear 4 times faster and you will end up spending more in the long run.