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I fucked up quite a bit of wire but I'm happy with what I'm able to do and glad I don't just give up because of waisted wire. It sucks, but new things require practice.

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300 ft total of 32, 34, and 36 gauge gone for me, come Friday it's time for a wire order :D:eek::D:teehee:

Not KBee this time...

I gotta start deciding what sizes of ribbon to buy, whether to try SS for wrap wire, etc...
 
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Lightning Vapes is sort of hit or miss but to be honest, I’ve gotten much more good wire then bad wire from them.. I started buying from Coil Society (core wires & ribbon)... they got clean wire and they are in New York (I believe) like me so shipping is crazy fast, usually 1-2 days from the shipping. Kidney Puncher is just to expensive for me...


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Lightning Vapes is sort of hit or miss but to be honest, I’ve gotten much more good wire then bad wire from them.. I started buying from Coil Society (core wires & ribbon)... they got clean wire and they are in New York (I believe) like me so shipping is crazy fast, usually 1-2 days from the shipping. Kidney Puncher is just to expensive for me...


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Yeah I'd recommend Temco also for they use real Sandvik, they're just a bit too springy for me thus my preference is Kidney Puncher. I also get a good chunk from Atomizer wick who also use Sandvik but they have 317L SS which is my preference.
 

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Yeah I'd recommend Temco also for they use real Sandvik, they're just a bit too springy for me thus my preference is Kidney Puncher. I also get a good chunk from Atomizer wick who also use Sandvik but they have 317L SS which is my preference.

Vaping on some 30 guage kanthal from Atomizer Wick today. The spool is okay, Huge which I like (wire comes off less wound up), spooling is fine. Shiny wire *shrug* all good lol

Hey the 0.3 ribbon I got from KBee is looking pretty good, too.
 
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I still got a boat load of Lightning VApes wire. They had a big sale a while back, like 50% off or something like that... I spent like $150 and got 2x worth. Couldn’t pass it up. Luckily almost all of it has been clean.... I’m almost out of my .3 and .4 ribbon... gotta find the best deal today since everyone having Presidents’ Day sales. Any suggestions???


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I still got a boat load of Lightning VApes wire. They had a big sale a while back, like 50% off or something like that... I spent like $150 and got 2x worth. Couldn’t pass it up. Luckily almost all of it has been clean.... I’m almost out of my .3 and .4 ribbon... gotta find the best deal today since everyone having Presidents’ Day sales. Any suggestions???


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I saw KidneyPuncher is all 20% off
 

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Which rda is this? Haven’t seen good ol 3 post in ages it feels like!!


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I’ll check it out... might actually make their ribbon normal price haha


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I highly recommend taking advantage of it. I would but when I went through my stockpile phase with the Deeming Reg's I stocked up on more wire than I can use in my lifetime ;)
 

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I still got a boat load of Lightning VApes wire. They had a big sale a while back, like 50% off or something like that... I spent like $150 and got 2x worth. Couldn’t pass it up. Luckily almost all of it has been clean.... I’m almost out of my .3 and .4 ribbon... gotta find the best deal today since everyone having Presidents’ Day sales. Any suggestions???


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http://www.kbeevapeswholesale.com/apps/webstore/products/show/6973288

600ft for $18...hard to beat KBee wholesale
 

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Except KBee is shitty wire, basically you get what you pay for.

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Yes, I meant to say "hard to beat the Price" :)

I only have the one ribbon spool, but it's clean. Luck of the draw though, luck of the draw...
 

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Yes, I meant to say "hard to beat the Price" :)

I only have the one ribbon spool, but it's clean. Luck of the draw though, luck of the draw...
As I mentioned above a perspective check, 30ft of top notch wire from Kidney Puncher is under $5 and will last well over a year with basic coils. Why waste your time and money on shit wire?

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As I mentioned above a perspective check, 30ft of top notch wire from Kidney Puncher is under $5 and will last well over a year with basic coils. Why waste your time and money on shit wire?

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I build as a hobby, even when I built basic coils I went through 30 feet in less than two months; now my hobby involves a lot of wasted wire anyway, so cheap imo is the way to go, until I become perfect at it or want to make coils to sell. My money is put to good use using this wire to practice building with, I enjoy the hobby.
 

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I build as a hobby, even when I built basic coils I went through 30 feet in less than two months; now my hobby involves a lot of wasted wire anyway, so cheap imo is the way to go, until I become perfect at it or want to make coils to sell. My money is put to good use using this wire to practice building with, I enjoy the hobby.
I'm the same but since I got that absolutely filthy Kanthal from them and when I told them about it they basically told me to fuck off. I refuse to use them for there's better options than their shit wire. For my practice wire I find good deals on Temco and Pure Atomist for I give my practice coils away and I will not give away coils made with shit wire like KBee.
 

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I actually have 2 spools of 100’ .3 from kbee, bought it a while ago before I stopped building. It’s actually really clean and spooled alright.

I just bought the 6 spools of .4 to see if I get lucky again. I figure if I get at least 3 good spools out of it, I still got my money’s worth!


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I actually bought those 2 spools when a lot of companies didn’t even carry .3 haha


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Which rda is this? Haven’t seen good ol 3 post in ages it feels like!!


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It’s a clone of the Comp Lyfe Battle Deck (3-post version, obviously). I liked the Comp Lyfe and AV Lyfe caps for awhile and the torpedo cap and modfather Cap...but those caps are very thick walled and will only work with a couple of RDA decks, ie: Battle Deck and Tugboat. Was trying to find cool stuff to put on my authentic Able, at the time, but having to use such a tiny deck just wasn’t worth it...even with the 2-post design battle decks.
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It’s a clone of the Comp Lyfe Battle Deck (3-post version, obviously). I liked the Comp Lyfe and AV Lyfe caps for awhile and the torpedo cap and modfather Cap...but those caps are very thick walled and will only work with a couple of RDA decks, ie: Battle Deck and Tugboat. Was trying to find cool stuff to put on my authentic Able, at the time, but having to use such a tiny deck just wasn’t worth it...even with the 2-post design battle decks.
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Missed you!!!

Aww, shucks thanks. Still a bit mentally bruised and beat up from some recent events and from falling off of a couple proverbial wagons, but if I can be allowed a quote from Shawshank Redemption...”Get busy living or get busy dying”...and I think I’ll go with the former rather than the latter. Glad to be back here among friends


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It’s a clone of the Comp Lyfe Battle Deck (3-post version, obviously). I liked the Comp Lyfe and AV Lyfe caps for awhile and the torpedo cap and modfather Cap...but those caps are very thick walled and will only work with a couple of RDA decks, ie: Battle Deck and Tugboat. Was trying to find cool stuff to put on my authentic Able, at the time, but having to use such a tiny deck just wasn’t worth it...even with the 2-post design battle decks.
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i recently got am mmk clone that came with a battle deck atty (with matching knurled finish). i popped it opened and said 'wtf is this shit' when i saw that old 3 post deck :teehee:
 

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i recently got am mmk clone that came with a battle deck atty (with matching knurled finish). i popped it opened and said 'wtf is this shit' when i saw that old 3 post deck :teehee:

On the plus side of things, even though I ultimately gave up on using those battle caps and battle decks, the caps (the copper and brass versions at least) have some decent weight to them and seem to work well as weighted objects if you use that particular technique in creating Spaced Clapton’s for Staggered Fused Builds Also, if you’re ever in a jam and need a loud piercing whistle, some of the cloned versions of those caps work extremely well for that...though it wasn’t particularly fun to have everyone in earshot looking around wondering who is using their “Stranger Danger” whistle every time I took a hit...


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@ScReWbALL to its credit, the one i was crying about vapes great with a tiny pair of fused claptons in it. it doesnt seem to be making any sounds though. do you think i should try to return it? ;)
 

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@ScReWbALL to its credit, the one i was crying about vapes great with a tiny pair of fused claptons in it. it doesnt seem to be making any sounds though. do you think i should try to return it? ;)

Definitely! I mean, if you aren’t able to draw the attention of everyone around with funny sounds due to the air going through air flow holes, obviously something with the cap is busted! Anyone remember the Turbo RDA with its whirlybird whistle fan/kazoo air flow? Lol


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On the plus side of things, even though I ultimately gave up on using those battle caps and battle decks, the caps (the copper and brass versions at least) have some decent weight to them and seem to work well as weighted objects if you use that particular technique in creating Spaced Clapton’s for Staggered Fused Builds Also, if you’re ever in a jam and need a loud piercing whistle, some of the cloned versions of those caps work extremely well for that...though it wasn’t particularly fun to have everyone in earshot looking around wondering who is using their “Stranger Danger” whistle every time I took a hit...


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Lol I use a broken mech mod. The button switch part works very well and was a huge upgrade compared to a pair of kitchen scissors.

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This is my favorite single coil to run as of lately. Super simple build and comes in at .19 single coil full Nichrome.

I like 24g fc Nichrome builds. Simply because if I'm not trying to get coil porn Worthy coils they taste great and produce great vape without too much heat
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So I figured I’d update you guys on the order I made with Kbee (6 100’ spools of .4). First of all, it took fucking forever for them to ship it out, about a week. When I finally did get it, I kinda flipped out out and sent them an email which never got responded to. It was probably the dirtiest wire I’ve ever gotten... I do have to admit, it was spooled beautifully though. I still have some .4 from another company so I didn’t bother trying out the new kbee .4 until yesterday. Now if this was high gauge round wire and it was this dirty, I would probably hAve just tossed it.... BUT since it’s ribbon wire I’m actually making it work. Normally after I pull my ribbon off the spool I keep dipping my fingers in water and running them down the ribbon to get them to stack naturally. Since the ribbon is dirty I actually go near my sink and rather then run my fingers down the ribbon I take a really wet paper towel and run that down the ribbon a bunch of times to clean it up. As I’m cleaning it the water is making them stack up so by the time I’m done cleaning them, there all ready to go and ready to be framed.

so like I said, if this wasn’t ribbon I probably would have tossed it... but since I usually wet my ribbon anyway, cleaning them with the paper towel and getting them to naturally stack at the same time isn’t that big of a deal. So yes, it bothers me that it came dirty, bothers me that they took a week to ship it, bothers me that they aren’t responding to my emails BUT you kinda get what you pay for. $18 for 600’ of .4 ribbon is an amazing deal. Would I buy it again? I honestly don’t know... I’ve only been using it for a day... by the time I’ve used 100’ of it I might be annoyed that I have to clean it every time before I’m using it. If you need bulk ribbon for cheap or if your just learning to use ribbon and might go thru a lot of it practicing to stack, even if u just need to budget your building spending, then yeah I’ll recommend it.... if you don’t want to have to deal with cleaning the wire and you have the money to buy ribbon elsewhere then I’m inclined to agree with you.

I also think it’s important to note this again in this post... I’ve purchased a few spools of ribbon from Kbee before and the spools where pretty much perfect. Very clean, spooled decent, etc... idk if they have a different process when they sell the wire wholesale and that’s why it’s cheaper... OR if they just truly are hit or miss, one order will be great and the next shit... idk but I feel that this is also important to note here so anyone who reads this can calculate all the variables before they place an order.


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Yep, KBee is shit wire, filthy and shitty fucking wire not worth wasting your money on it. One has no idea what shit from the factory coats their wire, is it lead or something worse?

Also take a set of coils made from bargain wire like Temco which is actually real Sandvik make a pair of coils then take a set made from KBee shit wire. Use them the same and after a couple of weeks you'll see KBee shit wire braking down and Temco is holding up great, then compare a month later.
 

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Yep, KBee is shit wire, filthy and shitty fucking wire not worth wasting your money on it. One has no idea what shit from the factory coats their wire, is it lead or something worse?

Also take a set of coils made from bargain wire like Temco which is actually real Sandvik make a pair of coils then take a set made from KBee shit wire. Use them the same and after a couple of weeks you'll see KBee shit wire braking down and Temco is holding up great, then compare a month later.
Yup. I will use the cheap wire to practice, and use the sandvik. Temco is what I've started with, and what I'll end with. That and kidney puncher or twisted messes.

Hey does anybody know if mad rabbit and brands like those are quality or re wrapped crappy wire??

I figure I have a good success rate with most coils I build now a days. Good wire isn't THAT much more than generic non sandvik.

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Kbee is hit or miss. I have had good wire from them, but very very few and far between

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Yup. I will use the cheap wire to practice, and use the sandvik. Temco is what I've started with, and what I'll end with. That and kidney puncher or twisted messes.

Hey does anybody know if mad rabbit and brands like those are quality or re wrapped crappy wire??

I figure I have a good success rate with most coils I build now a days. Good wire isn't THAT much more than generic non sandvik.

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Temco is good bargain Sandvik wire, I just prefer Kidney Puncher and Atomizer Wick because it's annealed better thus wraps better when spinning the wire and wrapping coils. I also prefer Atomizer Wick because their SS is 317L which I also prefer.

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Oh and a shout out to the coil master himself @raymo2u for turning me on to Kidney Puncher and making me aware of Sandvik!

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Kbee is hit or miss. I have had good wire from them, but very very few and far between

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I've got a roll of ribbon from temco right now that's all over wrapped. Luckily it's ribbon and not round wire. Would suck to be wrapping and it go wrong because it's crossed over itself.

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Import tariffs on steel.

Not sure on how far it goes but Sweden is not exempt.

Ohhhh. Sweden isn't even in the top 10 exporters of steel to the USA so maybe they'll get a waiver :)

Wonder if kanthal would count as steel?
 

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Ohhhh. Sweden isn't even in the top 10 exporters of steel to the USA so maybe they'll get a waiver :)

Wonder if kanthal would count as steel?
I suspect that any steel that comes here and its reworked into another form or is used to construct something else is subject to the tariffs.
But no real details yet...
AFIK only Mexico and Canada are exempt at this point. Due to the large auto industry in those country's I suspect.
 

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Yep, KBee is nasty shit. You have no idea what contaminates covers that filthy shit, lead or something much worse? Maybe saving a few pennies isn't worth it ya know.
That's definitely more than just dirty wire. Damn that's gross

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Yep, KBee is nasty shit. You have no idea what contaminates covers that filthy shit, lead or something much worse? Maybe saving a few pennies isn't worth it ya know.
That's definitely more than just dirty wire. Damn that's gross

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Yeah, I'm done with it. I know I said I didn't care because it was just for fun, but I do like to vape the coils I make...so no more Kbee

It bothers me with builds too, with 40awg I need to know the dark spots are just spaces in my clapton, impossible with this.

I also suspect my spools aren't a full 100 feet.

I placed another order for a gift to a friend, I'm about to cancel it and go to another vendor
 

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great comparison photos. i have had dirty wire from them, but not like that. mine looked ok, but left a black mark on my fingers after working with it for a while. i dont know if i would even be comfortable using wire that dirty for para-clap lol holy shit :eek:
 

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great comparison photos. i have had dirty wire from them, but not like that. mine looked ok, but left a black mark on my fingers after working with it for a while. i dont know if i would even be comfortable using wire that dirty for para-clap lol holy shit :eek:
Yeah back when I first started Vaping I'd have to take alcohol swabs and clean UD wire before I could use it. But the filth that is on KBee is 100x worse, one also has to wonder about their Quality Control being so bad on simple shit like shipping a clean product how can you trust the metal itself ya know.
 

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Yeah, I'm done with it. I know I said I didn't care because it was just for fun, but I do like to vape the coils I make...so no more Kbee

It bothers me with builds too, with 40awg I need to know the dark spots are just spaces in my clapton, impossible with this.

I also suspect my spools aren't a full 100 feet.

I placed another order for a gift to a friend, I'm about to cancel it and go to another vendor
I am using the rest of the kbee to practice, and never buying it again.

1.They short the fuck out of rolls
2. There fucking terrible at spooling wire
3. There inconsistent. I have gotten great wire from them. Comparable to atomizer wick. I know, it's hard to believe but I couldn't tell a difference. There SS is decently clean but again, your never getting what you pay for with kbee and lightningscrapes.
4. There customer service will quite literally tell you to go fuck yourself.


Kbee is a bunch of shit peddling crooks.

Thanks r055o for turning me onto atomizer wick. Very fair priced QUALITY wire. Infact, you get the same or in some cases more ordering from them direct.

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No.. I take that back. You always get more ordering atomizer wick, than crap like KPee, or lightningscrapes

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great comparison photos. i have had dirty wire from them, but not like that. mine looked ok, but left a black mark on my fingers after working with it for a while. i dont know if i would even be comfortable using wire that dirty for para-clap lol holy shit :eek:

Yeah the ribbon I just got from kbee is dirty but nothing crazy like those photos. I clean the ribbon before I use it (literally until I can slide my fingers down it and not have any marks on my finger) and it looks clean and won’t be dark in one spot and not another... and it Vapes fine. I’m not trying to justify the wire or anything because it shouldn’t be dirty, I’m just stating my experience with this last order. You literally get what u pay for. I spent $18 for 600’ of dirty .4 ribbon. I’m not going to be buying it again, I’ll stick with Coil Society. This was actually only the 2nd time I’ve ever ordered from kbee, first time was 2x 100’ .3 ribbon and it was very clean and spooled perfect... that’s why I figured I’d give them a second shot. Mind you my first order from them was years ago (when there were barely any companies selling wire for vaping and .3 ribbon was very hard to find) so I guess a lot changed since then!! But yeah, I’ll be sticking with Coil Society wire. I’ll use the kbee for the coils I’m using until it’s finished (or I get tired of having to clean it) and my pure atomist & Coil society for the coils I sell.... i would never be able to sell coils with Kbee ribbon in them and be able to sleep at night.


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Ok, I think by the time I'm out of kanthal ribbon from kbee, I'll be onto 98% success rate. As soon as I can make a coil build with 8/10 success I have gotten into the habit of cutting out the budget wire. Kp is pretty expensive on eBay, but it's a no brainier.

I just finished the last of the atomizer wick I was introduced by r055o and copped another 500 if 42. I think I might actually just stick to that brand. So clean.

I used a coil build from kbee and got the worst fucking headache ever. I'm pretty sure I washed it maybe it's just hypochondriac reaction but if I have to think that close about it, fuck using it.

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