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  1. dez

    dez Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    I tried my first mix of 60ml EJuice from a One-Shot concentrate ("Qwik One-Shot"), and it turned out BAD* (just from shaking, making, shaking, and tasting right from the bottle, right after I made it)..for possibly 3 reasons-
    1) I started out with a higher than recommended % of flavor, (20%, when 16% was rec'd).. because I like my flavors strong,
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    2) I think the flavor was just not very good -it was Quik One-Shot, extremely cheap compared to my ADV, which is OMG from Mom and Pop..
    3) I used a funnel to try to cut down on spills, & since I was pouring right into the 60ml bullet bottle from Nicotine River, and was going by weight, there was a problem because even though I cut off pouring in time.. (since I was watching the scale), I was worried about keeping my eyes on my hands.. so the funnel didn't bump the bottle- and mess up the weight.

    Also, whenever I quit pouring, the scale took unexpected time to catch up.. & whatever few drops were left in the smallest funnel, dropped into the bottle, and put me over my target weight every time.

    Then tonight I tried- for the 2nd time- to make eJuice (without a funnel this time)- by pouring into the bottle, (and my hands were shaking).. and the scale catching up was a problem.
    So, I decided this would be much easier if I used syringes to measure by volume & can pre-load them.. so they are ready before I even get out the bottle that I will keep the Ejuice in, and I can shoot the syringes straight into the bottle's neck..and know that everything is exactly correct. This sounds so much more simple to me!

    *It would be nice if the pros and cons of mixing BOTH WAYS were put into a STICKY- so that people could pick ahead of time what is best for them.. whether they are an expert mixer, or a beginner, and what their personal preferences are, which would be easy to decide if you had a pro and con list, and a "DUMMIES GUIDE TO DIY EJUICE"?

    Because.. when you are a beginner- mixing by weight seems complex and hard to get right- as stupid as that makes me sound..but I swear I normally do not have problems with home crafts, and have mastered lots of hobbies with no problem and no directions.

    By injecting ingredients straight into my bottle's neck- without worrying about a funnel bumping the bottle..or if I didn't use a funnel.. I would not have to worry about missing the bottle opening, if my hands were shaking, or I got distracted by trying to watch my weight catch up on the scale.

    I REALLY THINK going by MEASUREMENTS is the BEST WAY FOR BEGINNERS.

    So, here are some links to the cheapest ways I found to buy all needed syringes, without the long catheter tip.

    EDIT-I HAVE ADDED INFO & LINKS FOR BEAKER SETS, CYLINDER SETS..AND 1 FOR PLASTIC PIPETTES.

    In all of these links- except for the last one for syringes, you can get all of the syringe/ Beaker/cylinder sizes in milliliters that I think that you will need.. with 1 kit/1 order..under $15.
    NOTE- I have picked the same type of syringe for all of the options, and a lot of them come with blunt tip needles that are used for model airplane glue or whatever have you, so it may be easier to draw up fluids with a needle tip on, and then take it off before you inject the appropriate amount into the bottle. Some of these come with real needles , but I guess that doesn't really matter what kind you get. You can put back.. or just rinse-out whatever amount is left in the blunt tip needle.. or you don't have to use those needles at all- you can just draw up the fluid with no needle.. and wipe off any extra on the tip of the syringe. *I think that kits with some type of needle will be helpful when you are using very small amounts of flavoring.

    (I found the options below all Amazon Prime).. better than several DIY starter kits from eLiquid supply companies, because these Amazon options generally include only what you need, are cheap, reusable, small to store.. & you can inject/pour your liquids into a bottle's neck- and then Shake It Up in the bottle.)

    Here is the syringe kit that I bought for $12.99, with syringe sizes of 100ml, 60, 30, & 3 each of the following: 10ml, 5, 3, & 1 ml. They can ship Amazon Prime.
    Link..
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XSJ6KH1/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A34WZ1GGTQPT15&psc=1

    This one was my second choice, and is only $7.29.. and can ship Amazon Prime, has 5 syringe sizes.. with measurements of:
    50ml, 20, 10, 5, & 2.5ml.. and three types of tops.
    Link..
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07DYJCRJ3/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_1?smid=A3AQ2PKUFIH5H&psc=1

    *This pack of different sizes of syringes (1ml, 3, 5, 10 & 20ml only-but more than one each of most sizes) was another choice, and you actually get more, but for my purposes of wanting a larger sized syringe/and my tiny amount of space for supplies, I just went with the slightly more expensive first set. This set was $11.99.
    Link..
    https://www.amazon.com/Momok-Pack-juice-Liquids-cigs/dp/B072XFYXVB
    And if you still need a larger syringe, below is a link to one. *Note- it does not have the same exact extra short tip as the rest of these do, but it does not have the very long catheter tip either, (it is called a "luer slip" tip, and is quite short, actually looks to me to be the same exact length as the other luer-lok syringes that may look shorter to your eye- because it does not have the width of the connection for a needle- so you don't need to worry about wasting too much with it.)
    -This 60ml syringe is $4.99 & can ship Amazon Prime.
    Link..
    https://www.amazon.com/EXELint-Syringe-Disposable-Syringes-Sterile/dp/B01J4E9J7C

    BEAKER SETS FROM AMAZON PRIME
    This set of beakers has 50ml, 100, 150, 250, 500, & 1000ml, and is under $8.
    Link..
    https://www.amazon.com/Shapenty-Capacity-Graduated-Measuring-Container/dp/B06Y28K13R

    This glass Beaker kit has 50 ml, 100, & 250ml glass beakers for $9.99- from Amazon Prime. Link..
    https://www.amazon.com/Glass-Measuring-Beaker-100ml-Graduated/dp/B01J57WFF6

    This 4oz/120ml measuring glass is marked for tablespoons, teaspoons, ounces, & milliliters, and is $8.90 for a 2-pack. It is from Amazon and qualifies for Prime shipping.
    I think it would be easy to measure all of your Ejuice.. up to 8oz if you used both cups.. (120ml of eJuice in each one) straight into these.
    Link..
    https://www.amazon.com/Measuring-Glass-Tsp-Tbs-Pack/dp/B0149F7QVW

    This glass Karter Beaker set comes in 50ml, 100, & 250ml sizes, and is available in low-form for $6.25, or you can select Tall-form option.. for a couple of dollars more.
    They can ship Amazon Prime as well.
    Link..
    https://www.amazon.com/Glass-Beaker-Borosilicate-Single-Metric/dp/B07MGSG5QH

    This set of 2 plastic graduated beakers, hold 50 and 100ml. The kit is $6.79.. and available Amazon Prime.
    Link..
    https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Measuring-Plastic-Graduated-Beakers/dp/B07CWG31ZZ

    Here is another option for a kit of plastic beakers.. in measurements of 50, 150, 250, & 500ml. The cheapest price (7.49) does not ship Amazon Prime, but for $0.20 more, you can select the seller that does sell them Amazon Prime for $7.69.
    -You can choose your shipping option on the product page, when you click the words in BLUE that tell you about shipping options.)
    Link..
    https://www.amazon.com/ULTNICE-Measuring-Plastic-Graduated-Transparent/dp/B01CN90EMO

    PIPETTES: here is a pack of 20.. 3ml plastic pipettes for $3.99 with prime shipping. -You can change the qty & get 100.. for $7.88.
    Link..
    https://www.amazon.com/Rienar-Disposable-Transfer-Graduated-Pipettes/dp/B071JF4JMD

    Edit:
    GRADUATED CYLINDERS- AMAZON PRIME

    This is a set of 4 graduated plastic cylinders measuring 10mL, 25, 50, & 100ml, + 2 cleaning brushes.. $8.69 @ Amazon Prime.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0759K87NG/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_6?smid=A258FD0WHNW6Z2&psc=1&th=1

    This is a set of 4 graduated cylinders (like above, but without cleaning brushes.) They have a wide mouth & tapered pouring spout, & the non-wetting interior eliminates concave menisci. They are 10mL, 25, 50, 100ml, at Amazon Prime for $8.99.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B019W5T4CS/ref=sspa_mw_detail_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    This link is for 5 plastic, graduated cylinders, measuring 10mL, 25, 50, 100, & 250ml. These also have a wide rim, & tapered pour spout & are $9.99 for the set on Amazon..will ship Prime- as does everything on this list.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07K87Z6M7/ref=sspa_mw_detail_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1
     
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  2. JuicyLucy

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    I think so too, and still mainly use volume after all these years

    I don't think one shots are generally good for mixing either

    Both are just my opinion :)

    Here is one way to over come the problem of scale catching up to what you are actually pouring in, etc.: instead of pouring all the ingredients into the bottle as you mix, put the bottle you want the final product in to the side and use a second container (I like using a small pyrex measuring beaker) on the scale. Place the beaker (or whatever you want to use) on the scale, tare it, then pour in your first ingredient to weight. Then pour it into the bottle. Continue doing it that way so you can avoid using too much of any one ingredient. Rinse the beaker or whatever between pours so you can put back overages back into the original bottle without contamination
     
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    Yes! That's almost exactly what I was going to do until I decided to get a pack of syringes and go by volume. (I wish I had known about that a couple of days ago LOL.) At least now I know I have a way to mix e-juice exactly to the hundredth of a decimal point, before my syringes get here, if I run out of juice. This way I know I will not run out or mess up another batch. Thank you!

    I had mentioned to someone that I had thought of doing something similar, like using the bowl that comes with the scale to pour into, and then when it was all done.. Stir It Up, and use my funnel to get it into a bottle- but your way is better.
     
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    I think there are several things to take into consideration with your experiment.
    1. One shote are designed to be mixed at a specific amount. Some flavors go from tasting amazing to tasting like moldy laundry and cat poop in just drops. An extra few percent in 30 or 60 ml is a big difference.
    2. You are trying to mix in bottle. This severely limits you. Beakers are great and then you can transfer it in to the bottle however you like.
    3. You sound nervous about working with this stuff.

    When you are not trying to drip 20ml of something through a tiny bottle hole while weighing you can move a lot quicker. Viscous liquids need to be poured at the speed of weigh. If you have a beaker you can watch the volume and know when to start start slowing your pour. For me mixing by weight has been the greatest thing since rebuildable atomizers. Volume is kind of an eyeballing game any way you slice it and you still have extra consumables in the syringes. Weighing is very precise and allows constant repeatability if your scale is accurate. Weighing has shaved hours off of my mixing rituals and the mixes are more consistent as a result.

    I am glad you found something that works for you. I do believe you will be back to that scale once you get more comfortable.
     
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    How do you put back overages after you've over poured? Suck up extra with a syringe?
     
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    I wasn't nervous until I had problems, and tried mixing right into the bottle. I'd heard people say that they do it so I tried.

    An easy step by step would be great..a more detailed and descriptive one. Like "pour 1 ingredient at a time..or, use a wide-mouth container"..
     
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    I started with syringes and now this is all I use for mixing. Just measure and pour into the bottle.

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    I use glass beakers and glass stirring rods from Amazon. You can get them from 50ml to 1000's of ml. I have several so there is no need to wash them until done mixing. You can probably get by with a small set unless you plan to do volume.

    Its rather simple once you get the hang of it and your workflow can be super easy if you let it.

    1. Calibrate your scale using the included weights.
    2. Layout your goods.
    3. Weigh nicotine in
    4. Weigh in flavors
    5. Weigh in VG/PG
    6. Mix
    7. Bottle
    8. Enjoy

    Make sure and tare the scale in between each flavor or addition to the mix. Some flavors are lighter than others so it doesnt register on the scale until two or 3 drops. Go slow at that point until it does register and then you can start speeding that part up. Periodically let off and let the scale catch up. Smaller mixes you can just do a couple of drops at a time and pause frequently as you start getting close to your target number. If it happens to be an odd number your weight lands on you have to make a judgement call to see if its going to be one or two more.

    The beakers help a lot because you can visually see when you are approaching your target volume. Then you just slow your pour and go to dribbling it in. Start and stop frequently to let the scale catch up.

    Its like anything when learning, once you do it a while you get the hang of it and develop a work flow. You will find this to be very quick. You can also mix in much higher weights than the scale allows by taring and using two different beakers. One for flavors and one for base.

    I do a lot of bigger mixes so I dont have to mix as frequently. I can mix up 600ml of Game of Custard in about 10 minutes. It takes longer to find all of the flavors and bottle it than to do the mix. You will lose 2-5ml (beaker size depending) from transferring from beaker to bottle so calculate that into your recipe volume. If you are using a 100ml beaker and you want to make 60ml, set your recipe to 63ml and it will fill your bottle.
     
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    I let the funnel sit in the bottle, then tare the scale.
    A lot easier than trying to hold the funnel above the bottle, while pouring/dripping.
     
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    I only use graduated beakers when mixing large amounts because it is hard to be accurate measuring 4.2ML's in a 100ML beaker. Just my opinion you know.
     
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    I mix by volume.
    Heck I have one recipe that is a mix of drops and volume.
    Just never got around to converting the drops to ml. As long as I use the same bottles drops works fine.

    My feeble old mind has trouble watching the scale readout and controlling the pour at the same time while avoiding spills and such.

    And no way to suck out any overage...

    I premix my PG/VG 50/50 by volume and just fill my bottle on up with it after putting all the other stuff in there.
    Might be a couple ml off on the volume of PG/VG but no problem in 120 ml.

    I do measure the PG/VG if mixing a small sample batch though.

    works for me and syringe batteries do not go dead on me.
     
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    The graduated are awesome if mixing by volume. By weight it really doesnt matter.
     
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    I just mix straight into a 120 ml glass bottle. Measured 120 ml into one to see where it came to on the bottle.
    Saves cleaning a beaker.
    All I have to do is rinse out my syringes.

    A lazy mixer but it works well for me.
     
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    Having used syringes and a graduated cylinders or beakers for a long time, in my opinion it is so much simpler to rinse out a graduated cylinder/beaker. Start with flavor and nicotine then measure the PG which actually helps with cleaning the cylinder and dispense the VG straight into the bottle. Been doing it long enough to know how much head space to leave in the bottles. Always hear people complain about clean up and I just don't get what the big deal is. Oh yeah might have to wipe down the mixing board or table.

    Actually the only time I use a syringe these days is when making something new and untested because I will use a 12-15ML bottle.
     
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    This doesn't have to be, depending on what type of beaker or container you use. I used a scraper to get all of the ingredients into the final bottle if needed


    You can, but that should be less and less of an issue as time goes by
     
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    I never lose any e-Liquid unless you are spilling it. Since I use Nicotine in VG and VGD flavors sure it might not want to leave the cylinder but heating it under the faucet in the slop sink raises the temperature enough it all comes out.
     
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    Keep my vg-pg-mixed base (my own) are all in condiment bottles. I prefer these, no leaking and I don't have over-pour issues, great caps.I also use beakers, so much tidier and stress free.
     
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    I use my mixed PG/VG from condiment bottles but keep a few liter bottles mixed up to fill the condiment bottles from.
     
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    I mix for a couple besides myself so mix base often, decanting the gallons would just add another step. Mixing the bases 600ml at a time doesn't take long.
     
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    So you mix up your base and store it ahead of time then just add the flavors and nic as you need to make juice? Heck of an idea
     
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    Yes, one for me and one for my cousin. Saves time and handy when you get the itch for a snv.
     
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    That would save time when mixing more than a couple bottles for sure. Thanks
     
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    I used to mix my base with Nic, just add flavors
     
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    This is what I do, guess I should type nic base.
     
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    This is what I use for my mixing of the bases, VG/PG/Nicotine. Although I refill the bottles on occasion just convenient for me to use these bottles since I have a ton of them from before I was buying gallons.

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    I mix everything directly into the bottle sitting on a scale. Even little 10ML bottles. But if I had shakey hands or bad vision, stuff like that, I wouldn't even attempt it. If all you have is a one shot, and thats all you'll ever do, get some beakers or use syringes. Also by adding more because "you like your flvaors stong" doesn't work a lot of times. You cant just turn the flavor up like turning a knob. Most flavors have an optimal range. Going above that range you can get all sorts of off notes.
     
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    DUH! I feel like such a dummy! That's what I was doing and it was very difficult and did not work out at all. I like to think that I have common sense, but some days I guess I have no excuse LOL
     
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    Well, I went on Amazon last night and bought a set of syringes, so it should be MUCH easier to work by volume.. and when it comes to using just a few drops/ less than a milliliter of flavor- I can always use the scale for that and add small amounts..like a few drops at a time, or even a drop at a time, right into the bottle- so that I would not have to worry about leaving any amount of flavoring in a beaker or a syringe that would alter the taste.

    I also bought a set of cheap plastic beakers with the sizes that I think will be best for me.

    So- I have two questions Dash what if you mentioned calibrating your scale, and I do not know how to do that. When I put the 1 or 2 200 gram weights on it- (I got the one that is recommended in the sticky that tells you how to mix by weight), when I have all four hundred grams of white on their it reads just about to one hundreds of a gram short. Is this something I need to worry about? I do not know how to calibrate it and did not see that in the instructions.

    Also, one of you was saying that when you use beakers, you have to account for the amount that gets left in the beaker after you have poured an ingredient into the bottle.. and you said if you had a 100 ml Beaker, that you would add 3 ml to your total volume in the E-liquid recipe calculator?
    *So, would you just add 3% to your volume in your e-recipe calculator, for everything that is poured into a beaker?

    Or, since I am mixing for myself only - and I do not need it to be exactly 120ml total when I am done, do I even need to be concerned about this?

    (I think things will go much more smoothly now- when I get my supplies.)
    *Also, putting the funnel into the bottle, and not touching it or trying to hover over the bottle with the funnel, is one of those things I guess I had to learn the hard way- but will be quite helpful if I decide to go back to mixing by weight.
     
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    That's too bad.
     
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    So you pour straight from a gallon container of vg/PG straight into a beaker, or a bottle on a scale?
     
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    You can make a premixed base in something like condiment bottles. You can put markings on the bottles so you only have to measure one time. I have a line (Marked with a fine-point Sharpie) to where to fill with PG. Then I just dump VG (From a gallon jug) to the second line and shake it up. I use this mixture for testing new flavors.
     
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    That is a great idea! - since I will mostly be mixing the same quantity of the same recipe.
     
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    Yes, you need to be concerned because 3% of 100ML's or 120 MLs are much different.
     
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    No, I pour/mix the base ingredients (vg, p400, dw, salts) into the condiments bottles.
     
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    What is DW and P400?
     
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    So.. I just need to adjust my total volume by adding 3% when I put my total volume into the E-liquid recipe calculator when I am going to pour into a beaker?

    With syringes, and the style I got.. which is the luer-lok, (they have a very short nose- unlike the ones with the long curved tips for dentists.. or the ones with a long tip for catheters (the ones for catheters with a long tip would be great for drawing up liquid, but would retain it after dispensing also), -both of those would retain a lot of fluid in the tips actually-

    The ones I got should only hold a miniscule amount of fluid after dispensing into a container, so I am not really worried about losing The VG or PG or concentrates, since it is about 30ml of concentrate for the 120ml bottles that I make, by using syringes, making my normal OMG from concentrate.

    The very small amounts of flavoring that I would use (if I were mixing up recipes like a lot of You Are), I would probably do by weight, right into the bottle, drop by drop, or at least very slowly, so that I would not lose any of the flavoring.. since you are using such small amounts.
    Same with nicotine- If I were to use it. I do not use nicotine in my regular ADV.
     
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    No, what you need to do is make sure that what you add is 3% no matter what the final volume is, be it 100 or 120 ML's. Accuracy counts but with flavor one drop more or less will not make much of a difference. When mixing Nicotine try to be as accurate as possible because a mistake can mean he difference between 3MG and 6MG or more.
     
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    I assume that DW is distilled water.
    P400 sounds like some kind of engine oil additive?
    jk
     
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    Without everything being a joke I do not know if P400 is safe for vaping

    Description
    Polypropylene glycol P 400
    Synonyms: None
    CAS Number [25322-69-4]
    EC Number 500-039-8
    RTECS TR5250000
    MDL Number MFCD00084446
    PubChem Substance ID 24887757
    Viscosity (20 degrees Celsius): 80 - 110 mPa.s

    Measured Conductivity Range: 0.0 - 0.1 µS/cm at 25°C
    Measured Refractive Index Range: 1.44501 - 1.44846 at 20°C

    https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/81350?lang=en&region=US
     
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    dez Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    Where can I find just two or three condiment bottles without having to buy a six-pack like on Amazon?
     
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    Wal Mart, Krogers, or from a table at a local restaurant.
     
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    If you bought the Liquid Barn stuff like I think you said you did there is no need to buy condiment bottles since you will get your VG/PG/Nic in them already.
     
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    had never heard of PEG400.
    Still sounds like a glue or something.
     
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    Like pg it has many pharmaceutical applications.
     
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    No it wasn't liquid Barn, it was nicotine River and I bought gallon sizes.
     
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    Maybe you could check with the FDA or with poison control to be sure?
     
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    Is there a way to save a reply that someone put in a thread? Like if I wanted to save a reply somehow through the website, is there a way to do that?
     
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    I did not know you could add water.. or distilled water, to eJuice, because I thought it would ruin the coils?
     
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    I believe that VG has water in it?
    In any case you cannot add a lot of water or it will not vaporize properly.
     
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