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The US Gov is indicting drug maker execs, NYP let’s talk about that.
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. Found this one on google 
I am not versed in the vernacular of this domain of expertise and I intend to research a bit further, but from my read, assuming English is still English, this study actually establishes exactly nothing.
I beg to differ...what it establishes is well paying jobs to disreputable idiots who would swear their own mothers were Jack the Ripper if someone paid them to....
Expect more of these types of reports on ejuice since NO standards exist for it's contents or manufacture in the USA.
Edit I think maybe a couple of states set up cleanliness standards for the manufacture of ejuice.
Edit I think maybe a couple of states set up cleanliness standards for the manufacture of ejuice.
There was a lot of " may have" or "may" and no direct conclusion. Nor was there any single product pointed to or product that may have been acceptable
No comparison to other products such as lettuce or milk. If they truly found a potential problem I would like to know what products were tested by name. The study was funded by NIOSH and sounds as a specific result was expected....
In other words, I think they found what they say they found. However, it's what they found that adds up to what amounts to nothing.
LOD? (level of detection.) That seems to be the key to these kinds of studies. They say that the presence of ____________ exceeds the LOD. Which simply means that it was detectable and in this case, by infinitesimally small amounts when it was detectable at all. Which wasn't close to even a simple majority of samples.
To their credit, they raise a list of relevant parameters, not present in this study, but which would need to be in a future one in order to actually establish any health risk whatsoever.
They tested cartridges and liquid, but never in it's heated and vaporized state. They recognize that heated and vaporized liquid is likely to yield different results.
They say that flavors containing fruit had more of one contaminant than the tobacco based flavors, but by very small amounts. A sentence clearly edited from the middle of the statement by the NYP writer.
They speculate, and SAY they are speculating, that because fruit can also host this contaminant, maybe it was the fruit used in the manufacturing process that accounts for it.
I wonder how much then might be in the fruit we actually eat that nobody seems too alarmed about. How bout powdered spices and, jellies, jams etc?
My problem is more with the reportage, than the study itself in this case.
LOD? (level of detection.) That seems to be the key to these kinds of studies. They say that the presence of ____________ exceeds the LOD. Which simply means that it was detectable and in this case, by infinitesimally small amounts when it was detectable at all. Which wasn't close to even a simple majority of samples.
To their credit, they raise a list of relevant parameters, not present in this study, but which would need to be in a future one in order to actually establish any health risk whatsoever.
They tested cartridges and liquid, but never in it's heated and vaporized state. They recognize that heated and vaporized liquid is likely to yield different results.
They say that flavors containing fruit had more of one contaminant than the tobacco based flavors, but by very small amounts. A sentence clearly edited from the middle of the statement by the NYP writer.
They speculate, and SAY they are speculating, that because fruit can also host this contaminant, maybe it was the fruit used in the manufacturing process that accounts for it.
I wonder how much then might be in the fruit we actually eat that nobody seems too alarmed about. How bout powdered spices and, jellies, jams etc?
My problem is more with the reportage, than the study itself in this case.
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Yep, I was writing my last post when you posted yours.
It's like the old antifreeze trick.
I realized after I posted that I neglected to add the question about vaporization and heat. By not knowing who or where the samples came from deletes the ability to determine if place of mfg or whether or not these were imported from out side the US. Does these findings indicate possibly represent something that occurs in the base liquids. All they actually did was testing and not a study of what was occurring...
Any bug that survives my series vapes deserves to live
People have been vaping a considerable amount of time...can you imagine how many millions of gallons of e-juice that has been consumed by now......and yet we don't see massive epidemics sweeping among the vaping community,we don't even see common ailments specifically hitting vapers.......except of Shinyitis....
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Ahh parents and those childhood scare tactics.
I am STILL not blind at 65
Google 'The lies our parents told us'