FDA Investigation into Seizures

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  1. zeeter

    zeeter Bronze Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/03/fda...e-dozen-reports-of-seizures-after-vaping.html

    This is a bunch of BS. 35 seizures over 9 years? That's statistically insignificant.

    They're suggesting it may be nicotine poisoning, then it goes on to say all of the reasons why it's probably not related to vaping in general. People going for a huge nicotine hit or something like that. If it was nicotine poisoning then the users are either mixing it wrong or there's some device that provides more nicotine in a single hit than normal. It also says that the seizures may have had nothing to do with vaping.

    I can't be sure, but I believe 3 ml is the equivalent of what someone would vape at to match that of a real cigarette. I've been thinking of dropping mine to 1.5 because I've been vaping way too much recently, but that has nothing to do with this article.
     
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    Do you mean 3mg and 1.5mg? Or percentage.
     
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    Honestly, when I stopped smoking, 12 was what was recommended to me. That being said, we were still using carto tanks at the time and the cloud volume was much lower than what we (or at least I) get now with rebuildables.

    I have to imagine that if nicotine is giving someone seizures, they have other medical problems as well.

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    This is FDA thing it's starting to sound like the Muller Investigation, and the Kavanaugh Investigation, and the Trump Russia Investigation.

    It's simply Investigation and Investigation and filling big companies and politicians pockets.......

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    like the rest of the goverment the FDA has to create boogeymen under the bed in order to justify why they even exist much less why the continually expand their budgets....much less why they strip the individual of his freedoms and rights.
     
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    Yeah man it goes back to prohibition.... Remember when they told us your not allowed to drink a beer or a glass of wine ......

    My grandfather made squares of grapes and sold them with directions on how to make your own wine...... Made him a rich man.....

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    I had great uncles who bootlegged whiskey....paid off the mortage on the farm.
     
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    Its' a long story, but I got an accidental hit one time that was probably 80% 100mg nic salts and while it was not pleasant, 15 or 20 minutes later I was fine.
     
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    FDA wants to regulate vaping just like they do food, drugs, booze, and tobacco. Just that their claim over regulation is flimsy at best. Yet if they can prove just one claim over it like this one they can control it and tax it. 35 over nine years - that's nothing. And most likely half of those were people doing something dumb, like drinking vape juice or mixing their juices wrong. Everyone I've spoken with fully educates themselves on how to mix juices before starting.
     
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    I wonder how many other medications the people were taking with Seizures being one of the side effects? FDA Approved drugs also.

    Here is an excerpt from a well written article

    "No clear pattern

    There is no clear pattern to the seizures: Some who had seizures were vaping for the first time, and some had been using these products for a while. The timing of the seizures also ranged from after a few puffs on an e-cigarette to a full day later. Several people had previously received a seizure diagnosis, and a few had also been using other drugs, like m*rijuana or **phetamines, before the seizures occurred."

    Since you can't quote articles without it being edited here is a link to it without being censored.

    https://www.local10.com/health/fda-investigates-reports-of-seizures-after-vaping
     
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    I mix my juice at 14mg. And chain vape all day. No seizures. The only time i have issues with to much nic making me ill was when i filled the rta in a sleep state and totally over filled it. Ended up coating my lips, tongue and mouth. Got a huge dose of nic then. But still no seizure. So there grasping at straws to make vape look dangerous. Assholes
     
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    I have posted about vaping 48MG Nicotine in 100% VG to prove to some ECF ID-10-T's I would not wind up in the ER many times. I Chain Vaped 2 ML's and although I did get a little buzzed I didn't even get Nic sick.

    You would think after all these years people would not get all Chicken Little about the FDA's idle threats.
     
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    I like those nicotine seizures..... (10) long hits of 18mg and bam.....

    I have to lay down....

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    With all the 'fda approved' drugs out there that pass approval while still maintaining side effects that include itchy eyes, runny nose, spontaneous rectal bleeding and itching, hair loss, suicidal thoughts and tendencies, moldy tits and whatever else - no, you're done. You don't get to approve shit. All those side effects should be immediate reasons for disapproval. You can't ok that even if it's 'low risk' and convince the general public your function is to keep people safe. No, just no.
     
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    moldy tits :giggle:
     
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    Also included is projectile Diarrhea, I am a spammer ban me disfunction, Hallucinations, Depression, and Bloody stools....

    And all your taking is a medication to help your skin....
     
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    Next we're going to hear horror stories about how vaping promotes piles and toenail fungus.
     
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    No that's a problem for The Toe Bro.....weekly every toesday....

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    That goes to show how much everyone cares about the FDA.........

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