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  1. 5150sick

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    What you saw was the vaping equivalent of car tuning: all about showing off, of very little practical value to get a better vape experience, slightly retarded, and giving us all a bad name. "Nuances of Ohm's law" by shiny hiney :)
     
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    Was gonna go on a rant but its way to early, this is not good....thanks for posting. Oh and if its against the law for them to buy this stuff maybe them and the parents should start with getting ticketed by one John E. Law, when they are caught with one? Theres a novel approach, no? Break the law, get a ticket...There, theres a solution so the man dont have to raise taxes on ejuice and accompanying products, enforce the laws..
     
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    The man wants excuses to raise taxes and control everything. Applying existing laws and dealing with the problem rationally is the last thing the man wants.
     
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    I agree with you 100% and then some if possible...
     
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    The wording in the beginning of the article says it all "public health groups" which if you put on your thinking caps means government. Now if it said "private health groups" that would be different. The government is public in as were we pay for it and have use of it. Where private groups are for members only. Just something to think about.
    Of course the hook is the poor kids and what will happen to them. I know teens that vape but they have no nicotine in there juice. Of course when they do these studies they don't take that into account. These things are always slanted to their agenda.
     
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    The survey didn't show much of an increase in overall use of all the "tobacco related" products that includes ecigs. That number stayed relatively the same for high school students over the past 5 years, up slightly from 24.2 to 24.6% used at least one on their list. Ecigs and hookahs were also moved up in the questionnaire to the top between 2013 and 2014. They are push polling.

    Fewer HS and middle school students as the article states are using real tobacco products like cigarettes and cigars- down over 25%. That is fantastic and speaks well for ecigs.

    Seems students are experimenting, as kids do, with ecigs rather than cigars and cigarettes. All really good news for the long term health of our children.

    Cigarette use among adults >18yo has slid down to just over 17% after years of stagnating around 20-22% and even rising again during the 2008 recession. The drop started not coincidentally around 2010 when ecigs first hit the mainstream in the US. The trend projects it to be around 15% in the next year or so. It is no wonder big tobacco and the tax authorities are noticing.
     
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    It seems all the studies show that teens are moving away from cigarettes and trying ecigs,which is good like you said. The boat problem I have is they want to try to close down vaping or just to pushfor high taxes on ecigs to make up for the losses due to decrease in cigarette sales.
     
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    As usual, abstinence, is the only solution. This article isn't LOOKING at the benefits of e-cigarettes.Tobacco free is their answer. Any use of e-cigarettes (nicotine or not) is a problem.

    This KID argument isn't working as well as CDC would like. The CDC reports debunks their public statements. Hell, their survey didn't even identify if nicotine was in the e-cigarettes reported being used.
     
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    I never see vape shops ID but that's irrelevant...kids are gonna do what they do. Cigarettes, drugs, yada yada.... Vaping has grown more mainstream in past years especially in the past two I started vaping (although I've known about it since before I turned 18 back in 2010). My point being they're more popular now so a lot more people are doing it so of course kids are going to.... all of this regulation and criticism in the past year on vaping is ridiculous)/


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    All I can say is, when I was a kid, I wish the cool thing to do had been vaping. I'd have spared my lungs 25 years of smoking...
     
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    I second this!!!! except I smoked analogs much less than 25


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    They have too many laws on the books now that they can not and do not enforce.
    Making more laws that they don't plan on enforcing isn't the answer.
     
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    They need to enforce these laws in Florida:

    Florida

    In Miami, it is illegal for a man to wear any kind of strapless gown.

    Unmarried women who parachute on Sundays may be jailed.

    In Sarasota, it is illegal to sing while wearing a bathing suit.
     
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    In Maryland adultery is punishable by a $10 fine!
    The cheating spouse pays the fine not the person he/she cheated with.
     
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    Dumb Laws in Maryland

    Oral sex can not be given or received anywhere.

    Thistles may not grow in one’s yard.

    City Laws in Maryland

    Baltimore County MD
    No person who is a “tramp” or “vagrant” shall loiter in any park at any time.

    It is a violation of city code to sell chicks or ducklings to a minor within 1 week of the Easter holiday.

    It’s illegal to throw bales of hay from a second-story window within the city limits.

    It’s illegal to take a lion to the movies.

    It is a park rule violation to be in a public park with a sleeveless shirt.

    Baltimore City MD
    Though you may spit on a city roadway, spitting on city sidewalks is prohibited.

    You may not curse inside the city limits.

    Cumberland MD
    It is illegal to use profane language on a playground.

    Knocking stones into a public park is prohibited.

    Rockville MD
    Persons may not swear while on the highway.

    It is illegal to remove a public building by writing on it.

    Citizens may not swim in the public fountains within the city limits.



    Dumb Laws in Florida

    Florida (accidentally) banned all computers and smart phones in internet cafes

    The term “motor vehicle” was revised to exclude swamp buggies, deregulating the primary mode of transportation in the state.

    Repealed It is illegal for a doctor to ask a patient whether they own a gun.


    The state constitution allows for freedom of speech, a trial by jury, and pregnant pigs to not be confined in cages.

    One may not commit any “unnatural acts” with another person.

    Unmarried couples may not commit “lewd acts” and live together in the same residence.

    Corrupting the public morals is defined as a nuisance, and is declared a misdemeanor offense.

    Doors of all public buildings must open outwards.

    It is illegal to sell your children.

    It is illegal to sing in a public place while attired in a swimsuit.

    Men may not be seen publicly in any kind of strapless gown.

    Having sexual relations with a porcupine is illegal.

    It is illegal to skateboard without a license.

    When having sex, only the missionary position is legal.

    You may not fart in a public place after 6 pm

    It is considered an offense to shower naked.

    You are not allowed to break more than three dishes per day, or chip the edges of more than four cups and/or saucers.

    Women may be fined for falling asleep under a hair dryer, as can the salon owner.

    Oral sex is illegal.

    A special law prohibits unmarried women from parachuting on Sunday or she shall risk arrest, fine, and/or jailing
     

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