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You are dead wrong V4P3R.

Not only can we NOT read private messages, we have ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST in doing so!

I have enough problems reading though my own PMs some days not to mention all the PMs containing Great Aunt Martha's Brownie recipes and the like!
 

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Wrong, we can NOT read Pm's, and I resent you even saying we can without full knowledge of how things are set up here


He means there is a report button in PM's so therefore if you and I were in a PM and I wanted moderators to read it all I would have to do is hit Report
At least I think that's what he means?o_O
 
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Relax, @Whiskey ...remember your medication.

<insert typical Whiskey "you must be butthurt meme" here>

@5150sick is correct. I'm just saying there is also a report button in the PM system here, so if I wanted a mod to read a PM, all I would have to do is report it. However, they can't read it in the context of an entire conversation. I've said before that it would be nearly impossible for ECF mods to read PMs. Not without some backend database knowledge of forum software, and even then, it would be more trouble than it's worth. The same holds true for any forum.
 

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Oliver Kershaw owns it.
But you won't see a thread named "Oliver Kershaw is a bitch" on ECF
That's what helps make VU the biggest forum in vaping.
No Censorship and 6 rules.
You can call the forum owner whatever you want and the thread won't get deleted and you won't get banned for it.
 

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Just in case you were disappointed that you didn't get it vapermag :D
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If you read the whole thread shark,you would realize that uncle rj was the one in the wrong with his 'logical' jump that if his pm's at ecf had a report button the mods would be able to read all your pm's. Vapermag was pointing out that the pm's here had the exact same report button.
 

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If you read the whole thread shark,you would realize that uncle rj was the one in the wrong with his 'logical' jump that if his pm's at ecf had a report button the mods would be able to read all your pm's. Vapermag was pointing out that the pm's here had the exact same report button.
In all fairness, he wasn't included in the testing that went on behind the scenes. It's easier to just be a keyboard warrior and spout off.
 

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Update,

Still talking to my buddy over on ECF.

Strangely enough about a subject, non vaping related (Vintage Double Edged Safety Razors) and I just noticed that in the PM's we exchange there is a freaking REPORT POST option!

Seems to me if that works, they are 100% able to read PMs!

The Conversation system here on VU also has a REPORT option. By the same logic, then the mods here can read everyone's PM's as well.
Looks to me like he's pointing out flawed logic, not accusing anyone of anything. But take it however your gonna take it.
 

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If you read the whole thread shark,you would realize that uncle rj was the one in the wrong with his 'logical' jump that if his pm's at ecf had a report button the mods would be able to read all your pm's. Vapermag was pointing out that the pm's here had the exact same report button.

I have no problem with anyone pointing out that I could be in the wrong.

Been there many times in the past and the Good Lord willing, I will live long enough to be in the wrong many, many more times in the future.

As a mod here I can truthfully attest and confirm that I cannot read (nor am I interested) in reading any of the PMs of any member here other than my own (and some of them, I wish I didn't have to read them in the first place, but, hey Dat's Da Job!)

But with that other bunch censoring certain words like WTF, and VU or Vaping Underground in PM's (seriously, when was the last time anyone has been seriously offended by the abbreviation of WTF?) or the word Bitch (I guess that Classwife gets a personal alert every time that one is used) as petty and self important as that group is, I would have not one problem believing that they have spent the time to build a backdoor into the software where they can see the content of reported messages if they desire to do so.


Anyway, I am going to ask around to see if this is as possible as I think it is with the proper (or inproper) motivation and will report back here with my findings.

And if I am wrong again?

Get in line along with my wife to point it out to me!
 

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It's definitely possible. Depending on their forum software, they could have a script/extension/addon that allows them to view PM's in their entirety. Such things are readily available. It's also possible, if one were motivated enough and had the database background, to dig around and find them.

However, I still think it's far more likely that their forum software word blacklist also includes PM's. This could easily be tested here as well, but given the amount of fucks, shits, assholes, bastards, cocksuckers, and cunts that fly around here on a daily basis...I'm not sure what words would be heinous enough to make the blacklist.

******.

Ah ha! Found a word. Testing.
 

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I'm not sure what words would be heinous enough to make the blacklist.

bossbossbossbossbossboss.

Ah ha! Found a word. Testing.
Confirming that the blacklist also works in the PM system here.
 

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I find this all too amusing...

What we, and they should be doing/reading, is their own moderation... Boy do they suck at that.

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I began to notice that happening in my private IMs too shortly before I dropped off the forums after I ended up in the hospital for a stint of time after I caught the flu from my daughters (youngest & oldest). It developed into an infection where my specialists didn't feel comfortable with my being home, albeit isolated from the girls (well, not girls either as my oldest was in college & youngest was in the latter year of middle school - she got on & off the bus at their granny's house & brought home by her older sister after school or work, if she was working a shift at a respite center that night). I'd taken Tamiflu to offset catching the flu but it hit me like a ton of bricks & the last ppl any doctors want fighting the flu from home with infections are infants, elderly, & those with compromised immune systems. I'm in the latter group w/Lupus (SLE), Sjogren's Disease, Fibromyalgia, & Osteoarthritis; hwr, I also had vertigo, which if I fell again, I might have cracked my hip (again), broken my left leg in multiple places and/or torn ligaments/tendons (also did this before & spent all of 2007 & part of 2008 wheelchair bound in a cast that went from above my knee to my toes. I went into a boot but was still in the wheelchair when I took a tumble quite by accident & went back into another cast only this time I was in the cast for almost 5mos vs the previous 4-1/2). I don't get vertigo often but when it happens, it's usually during a period when I'm fighting off a head cold, water in my ears that causes inner ear infection, or for no reason at all that can be determined. I fell & cracked my hip once in the late night yrs ago & my husband had to pick me up full-weight from the floor b/c I fell in such a way I couldn't turn or roll to even slide myself close to anything to help me pull myself up; hwr, the neuropathy was already bad by then & the ulnar nerve damage in my right arm was full-blown & I'd lost most of my grip strength by then.

The only thing I did online afterward for a couple yrs was find the coupon codes I needed to buy my e-liquids, help my girls with their classwork/homework by giving them hints to whatever I wasn't able to remember, which is a lot thanks to Lupus & Fibro Fog when the diseases go into a flare. I did listen to movies & tv series a lot along with music. I can only watch tv series & movies for short periods of time b/c it causes far too much eye strain. However, I can say that other than the flu, which I'm predisposed to along with pneumonia due to the autoimmune diseases, I have not had the first case of bronchitis or chronic bronchitis since my analog-quit date & e-cig start date on July 7th, 2009. That is WONDERFUL! Before that time, I had bronchitis & chronic onset bronchitis like every month to every other month. It always turned into an infection, which left me on antibiotics & I felt like crap for weeks on end & then had to get over the soreness from feeling so badly and not being able to move about like I wanted out of fear of falling from the vertigo that most often came with it, despite the medication to control it.

After I finally went back to ECF, it wasn't the same place anymore. I barely knew anybody and most of the forums I used to visit frequently had basically gone dormant. I'm glad I found this forum, even though I don't post often. Much of the reason why is b/c my hands hurt frequently depending on the day, time of day, and even the weather. The VR programs cannot seem to pick up my Georgia accent even tho I haven't lived in Georgia since I was about 8-9yrs old or so, though I have been back to visit family & friends over the years. Everyone where I live says I don't sound like I'm from here, even though they have known me for the past 2+ decades or have been my neighbor for that long or worked with me before that. Even my youngest daughter has a strong Georgia accent! She's never lived in Georgia & has only rode thru the state where we stopped 1-2x a few times in her life. My oldest daughter has a blended mix of my Georgia accent but she also has the local accent, which thankfully is colored by my Georgia one. I worked from home before I got pregnant with my youngest then worked from home after she was about a year old.This is a large part as to why she has such a strong accent like mine & why family & friends, even those who know us well, cannot tell which of the 2 of us are on the phone & have to ask to make sure. If my oldest daughter comes home to visit, it is the same way. Friends & family have to ask who they are talking to in order to make sure b/c over the phone her Georgia accent sounds stronger than it is. But I digress...

Thanks for having me here. I'm glad I found this forum, even if I do lurk much of the time. I am thankful it is here.

It's my hope to make it to the VapeMania Convention in Winston-Salem, NC. That Friday we will be leaving to pick up my youngest from college for Labor Day Weekend. I'd love to go but I have so little money as it is and I know if I stop by and find something I really want to get (as of now, it's a Kanger Subox Mini b/c my ACE Mod is dying & doesn't have long before it quits)... I'll just say that SSDI barely pays the necessities in bills & leaves nothing for any extras, esp when I have to arrange transportation & fuel costs. Still, I have never been to a Vape Convention but I would need a sighted person to help me find my way around since I know nothing about the convention halls within that area. My guide dog is too old to work and I want to be with him when his time comes to 'Cross the Rainbow Bridge.' Still, relying on a cane alone leaves a lot to be desired.

Thanks for opening this forum. I agree that these forums need to be setup for adults. If they're not, then that just gives the other side the ammunition they need to proclaim that e-cig users are catering to children, which is farthest from the truth! My oldest daughter uses a Kanger Subox Plus; however, she is 27yrs old! I was so upset when I learned she picked up smoking but it was ultra-lights, which make it easier to switch to e-cigs before any real damage was done. My youngest is more than halfway past her 18th birthday so she is a young adult but thankfully has not picked up the habit. It's not easy to walk away from it when you are raised in/around tobacco country or worked on the tobacco farms from creating the saplings to planting them, top/suckering, cropping, stringing, then tossing-up-sticks till filling a barn & closing up to cure before it's time to take then down, remove from the tobacco sticks & off to market. (I was just growing out of barning tobacco in the traditional manner before the sewing machines & bulk barns came along but then again, I spent part of my summers working in the fields & the other part working on the ocean either on a trawling ship, free-diving/scuba diving for my own personal goals while waiting between checking nets & crab pots & making any repairs needed before selling my catch, & even diving for oysters & clams so we could cook them over a bonfire on the beach, and yes, the beer was always dropped off far enough off the point in a wired shut crab pot to keep it cold before one of us swam out or I took the Kodiak out to bring it back before we ate. (LOL!) I earned enough to practically cover every expense, including school clothes, supplies, lunch money, & meals when our birth mother went back to our birth father (if he even was our actual birth father b/c we have no clue) b/c if I didn't do these things, we wouldn't have had anything & often when she ran with us after going on a layoff where he beat on her for a chance rather than us, or more often me b/c I was fiercely protective of the sibling who became like a son, we often lost a lot of what I bought b/c it got left behind & was gone when she reconciled like some idiot, which went on & on throughout most of our childhood until I got us out when I was only a teen a few yrs myself. I worked as a waitress, bussed tables, worked as a barmaid, hunting with a bow during bow season & a rifle in regular season b4 giving up meat, w/exception to seafood.

I did a bit of it all but it also allowed me to take him sailing after I learned to take out the sailboat alone, to swim in general, and how to hunt while staying downwind of any game we were after. I moved & ended up 100mi inland by the time the girls came along so I wasn't able to share my love of the ocean with them or even my love of rock-climbing, but then again, their dad always was afraid of heights & couldn't handle getting out of sight of land without getting severely seasick. It's odd b/c the only time I never suffered with chronic insomnia was when I lived on a cabin cruiser a little bit north of where I live now only in a marina near the ocean and the houseboat when I lived just South of New Orleans & the Quarter. I even slept like a baby on that tiny 1-3 person sailboat & it was like kindling compared to some sailboats I've gone out with on runs. I love the ocean. More than many an older gentleman of Irish birth has teased me for being a selkie only I was good at hiding my true identity or I was never told as a youngster that I came from the sea. Of course this usually came up after several nips of Irish whiskey or several pints in at the local oceanside Irish pubs but they were sweet enough about it.

I truly miss being able to work like that, or even at all for the past 15yrs since I had to give up my last job working from home after I learned of the autoimmune diseases & how they were causing the pain that left me unable to keep up the minimum line counts to cont' working as an MT for a national MT company. I hated to resign but had no choice after my body began rebelling against me as it did.

Here is to wishing everyone a wonderful afternoon.
Good to have you here!!!

Hope it all works out for you!

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really bossbossbossbossbossbossbossbossbossbossbossboss is censored, but am taking it back


LOL, I think I was the one who picked that one to be put on the list.
Oh and by the way moderators and admins can see what you posted.
Hint: P-M
 

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LOL, I think I was the one who picked that one to be put on the list.
Oh and by the way moderators and admins can see what you posted.
Hint: P-M
well its ok - I am taking it back

bonus points for naming the movie im quoting
 

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No disrespect meant but I am beginning to think that the Provari only has it's name going for it, not to mention that like Apple products, it's far overpriced for what it is & those who buy them are buying the name not the quality; however, I may be wrong but it is how I view things, no pun intended.

:)

It got moved, locked and all contributors banned. :eek:

:D
 

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No disrespect meant but I am beginning to think that the Provari only has it's name going for it, not to mention that like Apple products, it's far overpriced for what it is & those who buy them are buying the name not the quality; however, I may be wrong but it is how I view things, no pun intended.

:)
You see we may vari on that opinion...

I bought my ProVari for quality, and not for the name.

I have not been let down by them yet.

Jim
 

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As long as it holds up & maintains as well as grows with other higher quality products without pricing itself out of the market completely, I don't have a problem with it. But the biggest disappointment is that like many Apple products, it's just so overpriced for what it is & the speed at which the industry is changing.

The Apple Ipod I have is actually discontinued... So, when it quits working, unless I want to shell out hundreds of dollars for a part that wouldn't have cost much at all, it's done & I'm back to hunting a better MP3 player (though, in honesty, it was a gift from my DH so I couldn't argue with him except for the fact that I refused to let him buy it at full-price. I found a refurbished one on Apple's website & we got that one instead & saved some $180+ on it when compared to the retail cost & it didn't have a scratch on it & came with the same warranty, well until they discontinued everything.

If you're happy, I'm happy for you. I just don't want you to end up with someone that cost far too much & loses value b/c it is no longer capable of working in the new e-cig market.


You see we may vari on that opinion...

I bought my ProVari for quality, and not for the name.

I have not been let down by them yet.

Jim
 

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As long as it holds up & maintains as well as grows with other higher quality products without pricing itself out of the market completely, I don't have a problem with it. But the biggest disappointment is that like many Apple products, it's just so overpriced for what it is & the speed at which the industry is changing.

The Apple Ipod I have is actually discontinued... So, when it quits working, unless I want to shell out hundreds of dollars for a part that wouldn't have cost much at all, it's done & I'm back to hunting a better MP3 player (though, in honesty, it was a gift from my DH so I couldn't argue with him except for the fact that I refused to let him buy it at full-price. I found a refurbished one on Apple's website & we got that one instead & saved some $180+ on it when compared to the retail cost & it didn't have a scratch on it & came with the same warranty, well until they discontinued everything.

If you're happy, I'm happy for you. I just don't want you to end up with someone that cost far too much & loses value b/c it is no longer capable of working in the new e-cig market.
What is this "new ecig market"?

This is, and always will be about taste and nicotine delivery.

I can do that with a ProVari everyday of the week.

I am not swayed by the fog masters and their current fads.

Although, I own that type of gear also.

Jim
 

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Only Zippo comes to mind. Strangely, I no longer need their services. :p
The House of Hybrids would fit, an American Company as well.
 

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I bought a Provari 18 months ago, I pressed the button and it worked . Today when I press the button, it still works . More than what can be said about some other things on the market .
 

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I thought we were talking about vamo's. I really liked my unit at the time. It went thru hell an back. It still works but where it was soldered together I snapped it but it did snap right back into shape. I had a few others but rehomed them to people in need.
mine still works, but the brass 510 threads are stripped. If i could fix that, im convinced it would lats many more years.
 

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hehehe my favorite thing to do at naziland,,is to get threads locked or erased

just another that went to la la land :D
That's Pretty Fucking Childish!!!
 

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Good googly moogly.....

I've been gone most of the summer, and you girls are STILL carrying on about ECF and possibly MORE conspiracy theories? Did we not learn any lessons about the conspiracy theories with Rip Dripper?

And yes @Va
The Conversation system here on VU also has a REPORT option. By the same logic, then the mods here can read everyone's PM's as well.
Good googly moogly.....

I've been gone most of the summer, and you girls are STILL carrying on about ECF and possibly MORE conspiracy theories? Did we not learn any lessons about the conspiracy theories with Rip Dripper?

And yes I fully see Anthony's point, even if few others DO.

God.... Glad I was off making money, rather than the silly cat fighting over another BOARD that I can't give two shits about. All outta give a fucks, sorry.
 

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