Does everybody but me love the Profile RDA?

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  1. VinnySem

    VinnySem Silver Contributor Member For 4 Years

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    I have two of these en route. Looking forward to tinkering. I have a spool of the VV SS316 mesh that I use with rayon in my Themis with very good results. Let's see what I can manage with the Profile(s)
     
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    I have a bag of Datt White Stuff coming from Jwill's store.
     
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    I use the kA1 rolls from VV. The mesh is a little too wide for the profile. So I just cut a bit off of my strip lenth-wise. It works well and handle higher wattage no problemo for me.
     
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    Just Frank Platinum Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    Do you guys dry burn your mesh strips when it's time to rewick or do you just put a new one in?
     
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    VinnySem Silver Contributor Member For 4 Years

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    I just put new mesh. I find that I get a long enough use out of the mesh setup and you use so little that it's fine to just use new stuff each time.
     
  6. VinnySem

    VinnySem Silver Contributor Member For 4 Years

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    Really digging this RDA.
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    I dry burn mine. Really low. Like 15 watts just to clean it up
     
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    Yes, same. I use SS316L, and I glow it at 15 watts very short pulses, until the mesh has a blue tint. Basically following the AVS recommendations for dry burning SS wire.

    Edit: I only dry-burn when putting in new mesh. When it's gotten gunked up I chuck it.
     
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    BTW I'm using rayon in mine, I'm really enjoying this setup.
     
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    received mine today, along with a roll of ni80 mesh
     
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    Welcome to the party. :vino:
     
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    Don't like it
     
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    Sorry to hear that.
    It's one of those things that works for you or not, very little middle ground for sure.
     
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    Didn’t have much luck with the supplied mesh but this 4mm id coil is fantastic! Thanks @gsmit1

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    The 4mm single isn't the warmest vape ever either, but I was quite pleasantly surprised with the heat and rich flavor. I really think large ID coils are the key to getting the best results with a single in this RDA. I've been thinking about upping the gauge and going for a 5 next time.
     
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    The pic in the other thread of my Cut with the Profile on top has the 4mm build in it btw. ,45 and 60w is perfect for the single battery Cut for me.
     
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    Now just a minute there. You went from "got mine" to "don't like it" in exactly 40 minutes. Far be it from me to run anybody else's life, but it might be entitled to bit more attention than that. :shades:
     
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    My fave RDA at the moment. Amazing flavor and ample vapor.
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    Read most of this thread and felt the need to put my input in...

    I love the Profile, but its been a bit of love/hate. Very first build I put in with the stock Wotofo mesh and cotton was perfect, best vape ive ever had, and brought out my homemade Apple Chewits better than any other RDA has done. Dripping only at this point and I actually filled it to just pooling up and got about 30 hits at 45w maybe 2-3secs each before I bottled it as it started to taste dry.

    However after a few weeks of it running perfectly and not even looking like it might need a change soon, i fancied a different flavour so rebuilt again same stuff and it lasted a matter of days before it was looking pretty burnt, didnt taste terrible but after the first build I knew something wasnt right. by this point I had the Nexmesh so tried that and have to say better flavour and smoother, not saying the old mesh was crap but this was just better.

    It lasted as long as the first but since then its been the same thing. Some builds just seem to work perfectly for weeks. Got through 200ml of juice one 1 mesh/cotton at one point. But other builds just randomly dont last. I have tried using half (thickness) of a full cotton bacon strip, jammed a full one in, used 3 strands of Firebolt cotton, 4 strands of firebolt, a rolled up Muji pad. All using different ways of leaving the tails full, seriously combed out, cut straight, cut diagonal...

    There doesnt seem to be any reason for it, I just randomly get a brown line down the middle after about 5mins and on maybe every 2nd build it stays that way for weeks, every other build it goes black within days. I dont get it. i rarely get it tasting burnt but I can pick it up vape away with unreal flavour then pick it up an hour later and get muted.

    I still love it and bought another one along with the Topside dual (awesome mod btw) and I got it in the semi clear white plastic which is so good for squonking as you can see how far up the juice is going so you can stop before the airflow and hold it a few secs to soak up. But squonking i seem to get some builds when I squonk the juice literally comes right through the middle in a pool and others where it doesnt get through at all and just goes up the edges. I THINK the 2nd is the ones that doesnt last as long.

    The brown line is because this thing burns through so much goddamn juice that its drying right in the middle line before the cotton has a chance to soak up from each side. that will be why the OP was getting burnt hits trying to take 5sec pulls. I can run anywhere between 40-60w but I find 50w (on the Nexmesh anyway, is the sweetspot. Any higher doesnt seem to increase the flavour much just the heat and maybe the desnity of the clouds a little.

    But since getting my 2nd one I'm using the first one as a tester. So I tried taking the ceramic clamp out and sticking 1 big 4mm multistrand fused clapton which was pretty good but after being used to the mesh for so long, just tased too warm. Before the Profile I was a dual coil 100w ish vaper but now im used to the cooler but still flavoured, I didnt really like it. i also tried dual coiling with just some 4 wrap round wire, think it was about 25ga side by side and one strip of cotton going through the middle, that was also pretty nice, cooler, but not enough.

    Today I was challenged by a mate who said 'yeah but you cant dual coil it with PROPER coils'... challenge accepted...

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    This looks odd I know, but goddammit it works! 2.5mm fused claptons 316l think they were 28/38. obviously you cant put them in straight cause the air would hit the cotton but this angle seems to be enough for the air to hit the coils and run along them. Flavour is sooo good. getting enough wramth but still staying cool enough for me (at around 70w but could definitely push it further). I think I still prefer the mesh when it works as it just brings out something in the fruity/ice flavours which i prefer. I tried a cake/custardy one in it and I dont think they suit the mesh, they suit a little warmth.

    Sorry for the long post, just thought Id share my story :)
     
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    Welcome aboard @ScottishDuck13

    I feel confident in saying that you will fit in nicely on this forum. IMHO, the best online.
     
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    You have a ALOT of relevant observation and information in here. I barely know where to start.

    However, that is the one way of dual coilng the Profile I never thought of.
     
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    Looks clean as hell.
     
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    gsmit1 Platinum Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    I love the 4mm single, but I'm definitely gonna have to try that.
     
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    I'm still on the mesh but it does look interesting
     
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    I've had few builds that turn dark right under the mesh then the wick gunks, it's down hill from there. I think it's poor contact with mesh. Once you get a little burn it's all over for wicking.

    Welcome to VU ScottishDuck13
     
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    Same for me on the juice coming through the mesh when you squonk it, those are good builds.
     
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    Yeah i just cant seem to figure it (the mesh wicking) out... most people say more cotton the better, stuff as much as you can it, but that seems to work for dripping, like my very first build with the Wotofo cotton and when I got the 30 hits from an 'on the verge of overflowing' chamber.

    But squonking seems to need something different. Seems to need less cotton and a little more fluffy under the mesh that tight to let the juice soak through the middle. I rebuilt the one im using for mesh on monday but its already digustingly brown/black starting from that centre line out as shown below.

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    This was after 2 days. Now the juice was a pretty sweet fruit with sugar so I just pulled the wick out and gave the deck/mesh a rinse BEFORE dry burning and there is still the black burn mark through the middle so its not just the juice causing the wick to discolour (although thats was most of the brown colour was). This build was stuffed with the Wotofo mesh, thinned out a lot at the side but the center left packed. Coincidentally this is one of the builds mentioned above where squonking did not bring the juice through the middle, just up the sides.

    So I will go dry burn this as long as the black strip disappears, if not I will use a fresh strip to test properley and use the same juice I was before and rebuild it now using just 3 strips of Firebolt and will try the new way RIPTrippers does on his build/wick video for the Profile Unity RTA (which I have ordered :D) where he puts them through in an upside down triangle. I had done this before but had the triangle the right way up if that makes sense but he swears by this way. He isnt my favourite reviewer but to be fair, i would trust him with the Profile cause he genuinley seems to love it.

    Will update later today or tomorrow...

    *** Quick edit... even just 3 strips of Firebolt seems pretty thick and squonking when dry still isnt bring through the middle. Hopefully will change after it settles a bit.
     
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    I'm not an expert at this thing but my most successful builds it squonks right up through the middle. I haven't been studying the color of the mesh or anything. But when I had too much wicking packed in there, it wasn't right and would dry hit.

    This is my first OfRf nexMESH build. I've noticed it started looking toasty but the flavor is still awesome (wicked with CB V2). I haven't rewicked it or anything. It's been in there about a month. Here's what it looks like today.
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    I wont use one of my Profiles unless I can see it squonks right up through the mesh now. If it doesn't, that means there's too much cotton in there IMO.

    I'm going to keep vaping it until I notice something's wrong with the flavor.
     
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    Yeah man I admit the flavour doesnt go, just looks yuk.

    Out of interest how much of the cotton bacon V2 do you use to get enough to stop it sagging but still feed the juice through the middle?
     
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    I add a second spring to all profiles. I wick the mesh just as I would normal coils, the cotton should be snug. You should be able to slide it back and forth with a bit of resistance and if squonking see the liquid come up thru the mesh. Less is more...YMMV
     
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    I just guesstimated. But I did double up the spring underneath.
     
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    Yep, I slid mine back n forth too to try help mold it. Double spring action too.
     
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    Just looked at my cotton after an unplanned 100 W dry hit :headbang:, no burn marks or burnt flavor. After messing with the cotton I notices a hot spot at the edge of the mesh. when this happens I stick a needle in the center of the cotton and lift and fluff it. EZPZ
     
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    Yeah sorry i forgot to mention i double spring'd both of mine too. Yeah Im disagreeing with all these 'pack as much cotton as you possibly can in' people.

    Dripping - pack it, since you are dripper straight onto the mesh, the middle of the cotton soaks it up fine...
    but...
    Squonking - needs less as need to come up through to soak right in the middle, soaking the sides just isnt enough for this, it burns through juice too quick.

    When squonking on it, i have got into the habit of just giving my bottle a little squeeze after almost every hit, just to keep it topped up.

    JustFrank - was it like an untouched thick strip ripped almost in half? thirds, Quarters or using more than half and just taking a bit off (if you remember :p)
     
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    Was gonna buy some 316 mesh what grain have people had good result with choices VV sell are 150, 200, 300, 400

    Crazy wire sell their own SS from 80 all the way up to 500
     
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    I was thinking about this as well, after some previous digging I had settled on 200. theres a few people who say different but most seem to agree that 200 was the best all rounder.
     
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    I've used the 200 quite a bit. MrMeowgi sent me some 450 in a sheet but I haven't had the chance to try it. It's very fine
    The profile does seem miss some of the middle and low notes. SS seems to mute this a little more. I've found I actually like the A1 a little more even though I still prefer SS coils. Some juice has too much cream or pastry for me, put it on SS and it's really good. Others fall flat on SS.
    As always, taste is in the eye of the beholder.
     
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    I use VV SS316L 150 mesh with my Profile. Wicked with rayon. Most flavorful vape I've ever tasted.
     
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    I just remembered I had a roll of this. I have so much crap, I can't even keep track of it anymore. It's Chinese so who knows, but worth a try for 2 bucks I think I got it for.
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    i think this is gonna be the jackpot right here. If somebody else thought of it too, that's fine, but I think this is it. @KingPin! review, he directly mentioned and had a pic of the two little wicking holes on each side further up the chamber. That was a head smacking moment for me. I haven't said much in a few days because I started to get some hideous leaking upon refill and I wanted to see if I could work it out. The holes are going to be the answer.

    This pic is the rayon wrapped in dat white stuff I was talking about above, but that's a different post.

    After trimming even with edge of the base, I pulled the wick upward from the end and stuffed what I could from the bottom into the channel working my way up until it was tight, but not too tight, and then cut what was left STRAIGHT while protruding just a hair past the channels. This will stick the upper ends of the wick right into and against the two little holes. Cutting at an angle leaves the wicking loose there if it touches the holes at all.

    I filled it up after priming about 15 minutes ago and not one drop of gurgle or leaking and I'm up to 70 watts and 5 second hits that rock with no sign of dryness either. Something could still go wrong, but I am VERY hopeful about this.
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    So the holes wick the pom poms on top and the channels wick the tails from the bottom with each part blocking any excess.
     
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    Exactamundo
     
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    Works a treat! :stars:Despite being a pain to suss out the first time actually after that it takes fewer steps to wick than most other RTAs
     
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    I think the pom poms could afford to be just a hair shorter, which I'm going to try next time, but I'm confident in this method of wicking the RTA. I'm certain that most of the problems I'm seeing around that folks are having with gurgling and leaking are due to not have those holes covered and liquid being pulled through while hitting it and especially with a full tank.
     
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    I think they said the cotton ( pom poms :stars2:) should be right against the chimney...How is the flavor now?
     
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    who said that? The flavor is the same, but no overwicking.
     
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    The designers, Joel and Brian.
    just re-wicked mine, cut the pompoms to the wick retention ring.
     
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    That's the same mesh I mailed you a strip of. 200
     
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    The one "knock" I have for the Profile, I'd like to cut the airflow a little. Just a little.
     
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    I find it just right with the top holes closed. Wait, this is the rda thread right?
     
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    Just rotate the topcap, close off as much as you wish.
     
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